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John Greenewald: That's right,
everybody, as always, thank you

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so much for tuning in and making
this your podcast or your live

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stream of choice. I'm your host,
John Greenewald, Jr, founder and

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creator of the Black vault.com.
And I am doing this live show, I

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didn't really think it was going
to get along the way, every time

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I do these things, something
drastic happens. And of course,

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that happened on this one as
well. But I think everything has

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worked out with the phone
systems, we're going to open up

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those phone lines in just a
little bit. And that is

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something that I'm pretty
excited about. So before we get

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there, though, I want to go
through a couple of the updates

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that the black vault has posted.
It's been about a month, since

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we have done a show like this
and where I get to update you

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guys. And, you know, tell you a
little bit about what's going on

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on the website, and what kind of
documents and so on and so

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forth. So as people roll in
here, I'm broadcasting these

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live shows now, throughout the
social media platforms that the

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blackball reaches, so primarily
is YouTube, if you're not

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watching on YouTube, that really
is where most of the action

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happens, in fact, about 98 99%
of the action. So if you're on

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Facebook, or Twitter's
Periscope, I think they call it

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now. Or I thought they didn't
call it that anymore, but I

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guess they still do. I don't
know, I can't keep all of that

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straight. But regardless, it's
blasting on all of those,

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YouTube's chat is pretty much
going to be the most hoppin. So

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if you don't know how to get
there, go to the black vault.com

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slash live. And that will bounce
you to the YouTube channel. I've

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got access, though, to everybody
on all the platforms. So I will

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be able to see, at least to the
best of my ability. Anyway, all

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of those comments streaming
through, but there's already a

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couple 100 people watching.
We're just getting underway. So

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my guess is if history is going
to repeat itself, there's no way

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I'm going to be able to watch
that chat as we go, I will do my

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best. Those on YouTube, super
chats are open, those are a

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great way to support the channel
100% of anything that comes in

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on a Super Chat goes right back
into supporting this channel,

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interviews, live stream, stuff
like that. So thank you for

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that, if you decide to do it,
and those actually help stick

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out a little bit more in my I
hear on this monitor when they

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come in. So with that, let me go
ahead and start with some of the

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let's call them updates here in
the last in the last month or so

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since we've talked last now
first, on a personal note, I

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forgot to mention this already.
If I stopped for a second or

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seemingly wince in pain, I
didn't want to admit this, but

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I'm going to have to I did
something to my back yesterday,

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I believe I was playing with my
son and it is excruciating. So

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that was one of the reasons why
I didn't think this show would

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go off tonight, but I really,
really wanted to do it. And this

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is going to kind of help keep my
mind off of that. So if I do

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kind of stop for a second, and
maybe you'll see me shift.

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That's why it is absolutely
awful, to be honest with you.

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But I usually don't get
personal, especially about

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ailments but you guys might be
able to pick up on it if you

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know me and have seen this
channel before. So that was the

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quick explanation. So let's get
rolling here. here's here's some

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of the updates. This I want to
start with this is one of the

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most recent that I published
this week. This was not

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available anywhere else I had
done a FOIA request to NASA got

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quite a few different documents
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the administrator for NASA, is

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or excuse me was going to be
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specifically, the 17th. Now I
published this story and to be

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honest with you gave the
Department of Defense and NASA

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about a week to respond. And of
course they didn't. I published

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the story with the documents
saying that administrator Nelson

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was set on the 17th to be
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they would comment they did not
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his briefing was scheduled for
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couple hours after I published I
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from the D o t. These were the
documents that I got just so you

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guys know how some of these
stories Unfold when I started

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fishing around via the Freedom
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you guys who who are either
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people that use the FOIA or
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like to hear these little extra
tidbits, what you try and do is

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you find, literally the little
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documents that comes in.
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boring, meaning you will get
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there's just like nothing there.
That was kind of true with this

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NASA dump that they gave me. And
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pages that came in response to
my request, there were different

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emails and different documents
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up with unidentified aerial
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different variations UAP. And
you'll see on this side here, in

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this breakdown of our weekly
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what this is, is is a schedule
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week, this particular data dump
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a couple in there. And on August
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briefing to administrator on
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unidentified aerial phenomena.
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was not something that was
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mainstream media, out of
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line was the only interesting
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where I went ahead and, and just
glommed on to that sent press

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requests for comment to NASA,
but also the do D anything that

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they do on UFOs, or uaps. goes
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secret. So cc her on the same
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PR person for the administrator,
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was hoping she might be able to
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behalf of the God came a couple
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story announcing it. In short,
it was confirmed. So on Tuesday,

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Nelson, although they did not
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that he was there. The
documentation does that for us

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that the briefing was for the
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like here's the point of these
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doesn't sound like all that big
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things are working, things are
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the mainstream media after that
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like everything kind of really
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sails of the mainstream media
covering this. That's the

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feeling that I got. It's because
that report was not mind

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blowing. And I think the
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that it would be. But these
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and are not, you know, mind
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show is things are working
agencies are getting involved at

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the top layer. And NASA being
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story about a month ago, this
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quite a few weeks ago, that
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had reached out to NASA and
said, Hey, we want to request a

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briefing with you guys, on uaps,
which did unfold, I was able to

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confirm that as well. But this
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progressing, the UAP Task Force
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important. This is obviously
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and not some, you know, low
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so this shows that it really is
progressing. So I dig stories

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like that, again, nothing on its
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blowing. But rather just another
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we are getting somewhere that
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story that I went ahead and
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couple of weeks was on the
Senate Select Committee on

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Intelligence passing in their
committee, the intelligence

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Authorization Act for Fiscal
Year 2022. Now, just a refresher

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2020 ones same Act, which then
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package. And it's a very
convoluted, confusing story. But

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regardless, the language that
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on uaps, that was published in
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intelligence Authorization Act
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come to fruition and starting to
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itself is also progressing to
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UAP Task Force information in
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very interesting not only will
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and at this stage of the game
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aiming for. There will be those
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this line, availability of data
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phenomena. The director of
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Secretary of Defense shall each
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other, require each element of
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the Department of Defense with
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aerial phenomena to make such
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the unidentified aerial
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National Air and Space
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that mean? It means that the Air
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National Air and Space
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essentially showing that the UAP
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one military branch that is
completely Mum, and has been mum

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on this topic for the most part.
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this channel, I've done a video
about the fact that the UAP task

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force report, or what's often
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force report, was co authored by
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even though we're not hearing
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this and realize the Air Force
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they're just not publicly
involved. What level of their

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involvement is kind of anybody's
guess I've still got numerous

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open cases, and tried to dig on
that. And that'll play into my

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next story in a moment. But
exactly what kind of role

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they're playing is a little bit
of a mystery. So that is still

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unfolding. But for me, anyway,
that was the difference about

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the language in this bill, and
the National Air and Space

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Intelligence Center within the
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Like I said, it plays into a
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well that I published, I
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communications from the United
States Air Force, on uaps, and

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UFOs, some of which had never
been published before. What's

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interesting about this is you
see, and you can juxtapose the

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difference between internal
communications from the United

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States Air Force, and let's say
the United States Navy. And it's

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very interesting because they
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way they view and handle the UAP
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especially through the Office of
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know, aka the press office. And
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been, in the past couple of
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understanding the phenomena, how
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things that they can't, they
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figure out the Air Force's Press
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they said they were talking
about drones, and UAS is and the

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media turns it into UFOs, and
aliens. And so those are two

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wildly different viewpoints from
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United States military. So it'll
be very interesting as this all

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unfolds, to see how the United
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plays ball with the Navy's UAP
task force, which is headed by

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the you know, Office of Naval
Intelligence, I guess, is where

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it's technically at. Again, a
lot of those details I'll be at

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are rumored about right now are
not solidified. In stone yet,

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because a lot of it has not come
out. But definitely don't miss

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those documents, because there's
a lot of interesting,

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interesting material in that.
Now, I did tease this out, so to

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speak, you know, I always harp
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figured a 40 minute heads up of
what I was going to be talking

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about in this particular segment
was okay, apologies if anybody

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hates teases like that. But I
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that there was something new to
the stream, it's not just an

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overview. The story that I'm
working on right now, just to

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give you guys a little bit of a
sneak peek is all about the to

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the stars Academy of Arts and
Science. That's Tom DeLonge, his

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group and the agreement that he
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Army.

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Now, just a quick refresher for
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since we've really heard about
this. This goes back to October

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of 2019. This was the story that
I had published Back then, I was

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one of the very first to get the
actual agreement. Now to the

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stars Academy released a press
release, said that they had

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created this agreement with the
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they were going to be utilizing
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equipment to analyze the UAP
debris or pieces or however you

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want to refer to them within the
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regardless of what your thoughts
are on this, I was immediately

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kind of taken aback by that
announcement. Not necessarily

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that they made an agreement with
the military. But the fact like

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my biggest concern was the fact
that here they are collecting

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all of this UAP related
material. And we've all talked

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about we're all pretty much in
agreement, there is a cover up

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of some kind by the United
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United States government. You're
taking all this UAP material and

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walking it back into the doors
of the United States military,

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for testing. Now, on the
surface, it seemed great. But as

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you dig, it was very concerning
that that there was something,

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you know, going on here, like,
why would you? Why would you do

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that. And although my critique
is more about the claims they

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made, that has connected to the
military to the d, o, t, to a

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tip to UFOs, and so on, I kind
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alone. But when this happened,
that was when I just had to say

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something that this was that
this was just a little bit

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bizarre. So the question mark,
is what has happened. And since

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2019, October, to be exact, I
followed the story, I've hit up

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the US Army combat capabilities
development command, or the

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ground vehicle System Center,
the GVS. C is the acronym and

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ask them what is going on, like,
taxpayer money is going towards

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this. So at what level do we get
to know as taxpayers in the

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general public What is going on?
And for quite a long time,

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there's no update, no Update,
I'm sorry, there's no movement,

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then COVID happened? No,
nothing, you know, with COVID,

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and so on, and so forth. So I
kept, I kept at it, kept filing

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requests, so on and so forth.
And finally got some documents.

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Now, you can see here, this was
an internal document for the

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media and public affairs
activity, very similar to NASA

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that they send out these weekly
internal updates, and so on. And

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this was in part of the data
batch that I'm that I'm going to

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publish next week. I'm not
hiding anything from you guys.

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It's just would be way too long
to go over everything. So I'll

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publish everything next week.
But just to kind of give you

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guys an idea, this was the
internal communication. It was

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kind of neat to see that I was
near the top here. In early

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March, A writer for the black
vault contacted GVSU public

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affairs seeking an update on the
work with to the stars Academy

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and the crater we shared with
them. At the request of the do

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DS task force that was set up to
work the various UFO related

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topics, we contacted that task
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to shift the query into their
hands on May 5, no further

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details at this time status
awaiting confirmation from do

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the task force of receipt of
query. Here's what's interesting

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about this is have you figured
out who that would be. And it

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looks like now the United States
Army. In addition to all of the

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other agencies that has enlisted
the help of Susan Goff has now

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done so themselves. And in
regards to this crater with to

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the stars Academy, internally,
they were saying to the UAP

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taskforce, and Susan golf, that
apparently they're kind of

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keeping abreast of all of this
and that they're involved as

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well. I was surprised to see
that because no one ever told me

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that my inquiry about the credo
with the United States Army was

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going back to the Department of
Defense in likely Susan Gough's

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office, because she would be the
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What was also interesting is why
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So now that concern that I had
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you were walking back these
pieces, I see this as now that

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those test results that were
that were per the contract going

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to be shared with the United
States Army in exchange for use

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of their equipment. So ttsa
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what they have

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is going to the UAP taskforce.
So it has broadened widely from

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that agreement that it was just
going to be the GSC or sharing

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within the US Army. Now it's
going to the task force, which

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works with pretty much every
government agency. And so that

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is that concern, that although
on the surface, that crater

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looked fun and good and dandy.
You can see behind the scenes

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here, it has broadened and the
fact that I wasn't aware that my

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stuff was going over to likely
Susan golf. It showed me that a

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lot of roads now, even though we
already knew that more roads are

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leading to the office of Susan
golf who essentially is

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controlling the narrative but
but seemingly, it's broadening

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and broadening to areas that in
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when I started asking about the
updates, you know, where their

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reports and so on. Internally,
they were trying to figure out

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where they're now what I was
told months ago Was know that

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there was no update. But keep in
mind public affairs officers

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aren't always in tune with
what's, you know, essentially,

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really taking place or
unfolding. Why? Because if

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there's something that's
ongoing, or it hasn't reached

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their office yet, or there's a
multitude of reasons, I mean,

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they do have a lot of access,
more access than what most

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people realize. However, the
public affairs officers, still

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sometimes can miss things. So I
already had cases filed to

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search internally for the
documents on either

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communications with ttsa, the
reports that were generated,

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what was going on. And you can
see here on May 5, somebody's

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all the blackout redactions.
Those are all exemption B six,

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that's Privacy Information. So
those are people, their personal

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information, award names, mostly
names that are blacked out,

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because they do keep that
private. This was sent to again,

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to the gpsc. Another person who
is in charge of the crater, can

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you provide me an update on the
attached credit? It is? Is it

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still active? And have you
received any reports from the

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company, the batch of documents
that I'll post next week,

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there's a bunch of back and
forth, nothing really of note,

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other than it was just kind of
getting passed around. Finally,

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from what I could deduce about
it, this was the person that was

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essentially in charge of that
credit agreement. And they said

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no, redacted is planning to
obtain more samples. Now, that's

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pretty straightforward.
shortened to the point, but why

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is it important? Who's obtaining
more samples? I would assume

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ttsa. The fact that this
redaction is so small, I'm I, I

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rarely do it, where you measure
characters and go, Well, what

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could that be? I'm not really
sure. It could be the initials.

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I'm open to suggestions here.
But it was so small that I

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figured that maybe they had just
a, you know, code, word or

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letter, you know, to reference
the credo agreement, I'm not

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really sure. But it could have
been referencing ttsa, I took it

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as that ttsa is not doing
anything, because they're trying

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to obtain more samples. Why that
wouldn't pertain to the United

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States Army, or GVC, is because
they're not supplying any

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material. They're supplying the
equipment. So there's really

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kind of only one person or
entity that could be, which

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would be ttsa. So in May of this
year, nothing has happened.

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Nothing. Now, I will absolutely
100% be fair, and say we're

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dealing with a pandemic. So I
get it, you know, things can

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happen. However, there have been
times where I believe, and this

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is what I'm still working on in
the story, that they could have

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done their testing, and yet
nothing has happened. Now I

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spoke with ttsa. And I'll get to
that in a moment. Why if if my

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interpretation of that is
correct. And again, I'm open to

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other interpretations of who is
collecting more samples. But I

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think it's obvious. What you're
seeing on the screen here is a

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slide from a October of 2018.
Presentation given by Luis

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Elizondo, and these were at the
time, so that's 2018, the pieces

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of material connected to uaps.
in some form or another. Some of

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these are known that that you
can dig into each image. I think

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the majority of them are, I've
heard one or two some people

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couldn't figure out I, to be
honest with you. It's been a

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while since since I really dug
into each and every image. I

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will say that I've I've known
about some of these, this, this

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particular one that we point on
the right screen. This

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particular one obviously Linda
Moulton Howe, was on this this

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channel quite some time ago
giving the very detailed

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breakdown about this piece and
what its significance is. This

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one here you'll recognize from a
television show that I produced

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many years ago from the History
Channel. And I actually profiled

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this piece not only on UFO
hunters, if you were a fan of

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that show, it was in season
three, but I also introduced it

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to the television audiences in a
documentary and produced also

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for History Channel, also called
UFO hunters, but not connected

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to the Bill Burns series, which
came quite a long time later,

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UFO hunters was just the name of
the documentary that we had done

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and we were profiling people.
Instead of essentially a case or

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something like that it was a fun
show to do. But this particular

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piece we profiled there are a
couple other ones I've dealt

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with on and off. But regardless,
these are the the pieces that

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that were shown that Luis
Elizondo said in his lecture.

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These are actual photographs of
material in our possession. So

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they at least have this many I
count probably 12. Within here,

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not sure if you want to count
these as more than one. But

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regardless, 12 pieces to test.
If you have 12 pieces that are

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connected to uaps, why wouldn't
you do it? And I'm not really

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sure. So I wanted to make sure
that I was understanding the

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story correctly, and the
documents and the history,

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followed it for a couple years,
and I want to make sure I'm

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accurate. So I reached out to
ttsa. To my surprise, they

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responded, and to their credit,
so I want to, you know, give

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them a public thanks for that,
because for quite a long time,

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they would not respond at all.
And so you'll see a lot of older

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articles, you know, contacted
ttsa, no response contacted

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ttsa. They didn't respond. They
did here. But it didn't add

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much. Thank you for your
inquiry. In this regard, we must

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refer you to our SEC filings
press release on our website and

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other public disclosures
regarding the crater, we're not

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able to make any additional
information available at this

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time, no links, no references to
what they're talking about. No

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nothing. So I was back to
essentially scrounging through

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their SEC filings and trying to
figure out what they meant the

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best that I could deduce,
because I went through

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everything that I could find,
the best that I could deduce was

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what they were referring to was
this a transcript from the 2021

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meeting that they had for
shareholders. So this particular

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story I'm working on is probably
not going to be a surprise to

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shareholders, that they haven't
done anything, because what they

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said here, specifically Tom
DeLonge, CEO of the company, as

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announced earlier in 2019, we
entered into a collaboration

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agreement with the US Army.

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This was the continuation and
next step of our atom project to

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analyze and advance our
understanding of the collected

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exotic materials. The scope of
the army agreement covered

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metamaterial science, advanced
communications, vehicle

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camouflage and beam energy
propulsion. This contract spans

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five years, given the army,
giving the army access to ttsa

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data to support Army Research,
in return ttsa gains access to

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scientific expertise that
accelerates the quality and pace

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of our research. We kicked off
this partnership in early 2020,

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with excitement, hosting the
principal officers in the US

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Army at our headquarters in San
Diego. Unfortunately, shortly

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thereafter, the pandemic took
over and all operations

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affiliated with our project,
were closed due to safety

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concerns are redirected to focus
on other government priorities

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concerning the national state of
emergency. As there seems to be

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light on the horizon, to the end
of the health crisis, I am

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confident we will have some
interesting progress to report

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as the year progresses. So I
want to make sure that I put

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that in there that and that's an
acceptable explanation that it's

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COVID. You know, I mean, COVID,
shut everything down. The last

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piece of the puzzle, and I don't
have an answer for you guys yet.

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I'm hoping to get that Monday is
you'll see internally, that the

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GVC never made reference to the
fact that they were closed, or

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that the facilities were shut
down. Or that there is nothing

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to report because the of COVID.
It was because what we can I

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hate to word use the word
assume, but let's call it deduce

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from the documents, that it's
ttsa that's trying to get more

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samples. Again, I'm open to
other interpretations from that.

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I just don't see it. So what are
they waiting for going back to

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that slide? With all of the
pieces that they have granted?

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11 out of the 12 may be
absolutely nothing but what if

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they have something their
facilities are there? And

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internally the GVS? He says
yeah, there, you know, there's

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nothing here, still active, but
nothing here, because they're

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going for more material. So what
that means, I'll let you guys

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decide. That last piece of the
puzzle why I didn't publish

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Friday was what is the army
going to say? If they come back

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to me and say, you know, the the
facilities have been shut down

436
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for a year and a half. I'll
absolutely publish that. That's

437
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:46,980
not a problem. I'm giving you
guys all the information that I

438
00:29:46,980 --> 00:29:51,540
have at this point on this with
the open ended question of you

439
00:29:51,540 --> 00:29:55,830
know what's going on like, why?
If you guys are sitting on let's

440
00:29:55,830 --> 00:29:59,700
put it this way, if you guys are
sitting on potentially the

441
00:29:59,700 --> 00:30:03,720
biggest Discovery of mankind,
right? You've got pieces of

442
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:09,210
potentially alien spacecraft. I
get it COVID as a huge concern.

443
00:30:10,290 --> 00:30:13,170
But we are living our daily
lives We are, we are going

444
00:30:13,170 --> 00:30:17,130
forward, we are moving forward.
So if they are not locked down

445
00:30:17,130 --> 00:30:20,910
and internally, they're saying
nothing about being closed. What

446
00:30:20,910 --> 00:30:26,700
is the holdup and we keep seeing
stuff about entertainment, the

447
00:30:26,700 --> 00:30:29,730
entertainment division. And
there's so many entertainment

448
00:30:29,730 --> 00:30:33,960
projects in development and in
production and which is great,

449
00:30:34,020 --> 00:30:37,980
all my best wishes. But that
means that they're working on

450
00:30:37,980 --> 00:30:44,100
stuff. So if the army is open, I
would think that potentially

451
00:30:44,130 --> 00:30:48,990
alien pieces of something would
be the best stuff that you could

452
00:30:48,990 --> 00:30:53,490
work on. But that's just me. But
that is kind of the update. And

453
00:30:55,170 --> 00:30:57,420
we'll see what happens next
week, I'll publish the rest of

454
00:30:57,420 --> 00:31:00,330
it. Here's the last story and
then we'll open up the lines.

455
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:05,940
The last story was somewhat UFO
related, the documents ended up

456
00:31:05,940 --> 00:31:09,810
not being even though it was
about Bob vzaar of the area 51

457
00:31:09,810 --> 00:31:13,500
fame. Starting about two, three
years ago, I started going after

458
00:31:13,890 --> 00:31:18,720
FBI files on united nuclear,
that's his company that he is

459
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,950
the owner of and still in
operation today. I'm a science

460
00:31:22,950 --> 00:31:26,610
geek, there's some really cool
stuff, I'm not gonna lie on his

461
00:31:26,610 --> 00:31:31,260
website. If for all you area 51,
Bob has our fans. He's got some

462
00:31:31,260 --> 00:31:35,820
area 51 signed posters and stuff
like that, that you can

463
00:31:35,820 --> 00:31:39,300
purchase. But also a lot of
science, you know, stuff like

464
00:31:39,300 --> 00:31:43,920
that. And so he runs this
company. And to my surprise,

465
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:48,510
there was, you know, quite a
hefty FBI file. And even though

466
00:31:48,510 --> 00:31:52,560
I know, Bob was in trouble with
the law, and I knew that united

467
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:56,340
nuclear at one time, got in
trouble with the law, or at

468
00:31:56,340 --> 00:31:59,520
least one that I could think of,
I was surprised that there was

469
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:03,360
this kind of wide spanning file.
So I had rounded down the file

470
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,750
just because it would take about
six years to get literally that

471
00:32:06,750 --> 00:32:09,780
was the estimate. So I rounded
it down to a couple of key

472
00:32:09,780 --> 00:32:15,510
years. And that's what I
published. Why I wanted to point

473
00:32:15,510 --> 00:32:20,490
this out is that the motivation
for this was the 2017 raid of

474
00:32:20,490 --> 00:32:23,610
United nuclear, which was
outlined in Jeremy core bells,

475
00:32:24,150 --> 00:32:29,940
documentary, it was very much
framed that the FBI slash police

476
00:32:29,940 --> 00:32:32,760
were going in there and
storming, essentially looking

477
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:37,500
for element 115. That was the
secret alien fuel that Bob has

478
00:32:37,500 --> 00:32:42,090
are had smuggled out of area 51
and kept somewhere. I know that

479
00:32:42,090 --> 00:32:46,890
there's a lecture by George
Knapp, who said that Bob had

480
00:32:46,890 --> 00:32:51,090
taken it out to some place in
the desert, and buried it. And

481
00:32:51,090 --> 00:32:55,590
that George knew, at least at
one point where it was, again,

482
00:32:55,590 --> 00:32:58,080
it's that question of if you if
you're sitting on the key to the

483
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,740
universe here, you know, why
would we just sit on it and just

484
00:33:01,740 --> 00:33:04,980
continue to hound on lazaros?
education? I mean, blow this

485
00:33:04,980 --> 00:33:09,810
thing wide open. But regardless,
there was no records. Now

486
00:33:09,810 --> 00:33:13,200
there's, there's a little bit of
confusion. So I want to clarify,

487
00:33:13,230 --> 00:33:19,230
I saw it on Twitter, that the
2017 raid away from element 115

488
00:33:19,230 --> 00:33:23,820
was connected to a murder.
That's That's true. I won't get

489
00:33:23,820 --> 00:33:28,080
into the legal gritty details of
that. But if you look at the

490
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,980
article that I published on the
lazaar FBI files, I link over to

491
00:33:31,980 --> 00:33:37,380
another article that was written
by Tim McMillan that obtained

492
00:33:37,380 --> 00:33:40,890
the original like two page
summary from the police

493
00:33:40,890 --> 00:33:45,420
department on the case. The
confusion was, well, there

494
00:33:45,420 --> 00:33:49,620
wouldn't be anything in United
nucleus file, because that was

495
00:33:49,650 --> 00:33:53,640
in regards to another murder
investigation. Let me say up

496
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,920
front, I'm not making a
conspiracy out of the fact that

497
00:33:55,920 --> 00:34:00,810
there's no 2017 era files and
united nuclear. I find it

498
00:34:00,810 --> 00:34:04,980
interesting and intriguing. But
I'm still pursuing that angle

499
00:34:04,980 --> 00:34:07,380
and trying to get other
documents. But where I wanted to

500
00:34:07,380 --> 00:34:10,380
clarify, because this was a
question that was brought up,

501
00:34:10,980 --> 00:34:13,650
was that if it was tied to a
murder investigation wouldn't be

502
00:34:13,650 --> 00:34:18,120
in United nucleus file. And that
it's no surprise it didn't come

503
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:22,590
up. For those who dabble in the
foyer or want to, there is

504
00:34:22,590 --> 00:34:27,120
something really key to
requesting files through the

505
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:31,860
Privacy Act or Freedom of
Information Act with the FBI. A

506
00:34:31,860 --> 00:34:35,220
lot of people overlook this. I
did for many years. So I'm

507
00:34:35,220 --> 00:34:38,730
passing it on to you guys. You
add in there that you want to

508
00:34:38,730 --> 00:34:41,370
make sure that you're getting
what are called cross references

509
00:34:41,370 --> 00:34:45,450
to the topic of your request. So
whether that be on united

510
00:34:45,450 --> 00:34:51,840
nuclear, or Microsoft or Marilyn
Monroe, or whomever or whatever

511
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:55,680
you are requesting when you
request cross references, what

512
00:34:55,680 --> 00:35:00,000
they do is they search for files
also, that connect to and cross

513
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,690
reference the topic of your
request in regards to United

514
00:35:03,690 --> 00:35:09,330
nuclear. That is what I did. And
so the responsive records over

515
00:35:09,330 --> 00:35:12,060
the course of a couple years
that I was negotiating with the

516
00:35:12,060 --> 00:35:12,840
FBI and

517
00:35:14,549 --> 00:35:18,119
well, let me rephrase that the
negotiation was much shorter,

518
00:35:18,119 --> 00:35:21,869
but the case has been going on
for a couple of years. The

519
00:35:21,869 --> 00:35:26,009
negotiation then was trying to
figure out out of the responsive

520
00:35:26,009 --> 00:35:30,419
material that they received, and
found, which totaled about 1000

521
00:35:30,869 --> 00:35:35,519
to 1100 pages, approximately,
there was nothing in the 2000

522
00:35:35,519 --> 00:35:39,179
timeframe. Now per my request,
cross references should have

523
00:35:39,179 --> 00:35:43,559
come up. They did not. So I'm
still pursuing it. And again,

524
00:35:43,559 --> 00:35:48,179
not trying to make a conspiracy
out of it. But for those who are

525
00:35:48,749 --> 00:35:51,719
interested in using that, make
sure you use language that

526
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:55,439
includes cross references.
Because if you don't, like I

527
00:35:55,439 --> 00:35:57,929
said, they'll just go to that
central file, and then they

528
00:35:57,929 --> 00:36:02,789
won't won't give you anything.
So add in that language is where

529
00:36:02,789 --> 00:36:06,179
I'm going with that. And for
many years, I was I was not not

530
00:36:06,179 --> 00:36:09,989
aware of that. Jet. Boy, 33,
you've been a longtime supporter

531
00:36:10,019 --> 00:36:13,799
of this channel. And me, thank
you so much for obviously

532
00:36:13,829 --> 00:36:16,559
joining us in the chat and your
support for the channel. So

533
00:36:16,559 --> 00:36:23,669
thank you, thank you for that
donation. So that is, did have

534
00:36:23,669 --> 00:36:26,969
another slide. This was the
email, the communication back in

535
00:36:26,969 --> 00:36:30,209
2019, that showed that they the
responsive records had nothing

536
00:36:30,209 --> 00:36:35,129
concerning the FBI involvement
in a police raid in 2017. So

537
00:36:35,189 --> 00:36:38,639
again, still pursuing that I
don't find it a huge, gigantic

538
00:36:38,939 --> 00:36:43,829
conspiracy, but it's something
of note, nonetheless. So let me

539
00:36:43,829 --> 00:36:48,299
switch some graphics here. Let
me go ahead and put the

540
00:36:49,199 --> 00:36:52,259
telephone number on screen
Macross my fingers, everything

541
00:36:52,259 --> 00:36:55,469
works, right? If it doesn't, I'm
gonna pull the comments back up

542
00:36:55,469 --> 00:36:59,549
here. Let me know, if you can't
get through on the phone, let me

543
00:36:59,549 --> 00:37:03,989
know, I would really appreciate
that. Let me see some of the

544
00:37:04,019 --> 00:37:08,579
comments here. And pull up some
of these as we wait for some

545
00:37:08,609 --> 00:37:15,179
phone calls. Lucy, and thank you
so much, you might want to post

546
00:37:15,179 --> 00:37:20,699
a how to how to do file a foyer
with tips. That is something

547
00:37:20,699 --> 00:37:24,629
that is really requested. And I
really need to buckle down and

548
00:37:24,629 --> 00:37:28,079
do it. It sounds more
complicated than it is. But

549
00:37:28,079 --> 00:37:31,139
there's a lot of tips to go
along with it. And I know that I

550
00:37:31,679 --> 00:37:34,799
should do that and want to do
that. So thank you for that

551
00:37:34,799 --> 00:37:37,649
suggestion. I wanted to
highlight it because that is

552
00:37:37,649 --> 00:37:44,009
something that I feel we should
definitely do Dolan's bar, thank

553
00:37:44,009 --> 00:37:46,529
you so much for that. I was
looking at the graphic on there

554
00:37:46,529 --> 00:37:53,129
trying to maybe an Irish pub,
maybe by the logo there very

555
00:37:53,129 --> 00:37:55,859
cool Dolan's bar, thank you for
that really, really appreciate

556
00:37:55,859 --> 00:37:59,579
it. artists and Tony, can you?
Or do you have a video on the

557
00:37:59,579 --> 00:38:03,089
FOIA process? Very cool.
appreciate you asking as well.

558
00:38:03,869 --> 00:38:08,099
Yes, you know what, I really
need to do that for you guys.

559
00:38:08,369 --> 00:38:13,409
So, you know, thank you for the
suggestion. And and I'm and I'm

560
00:38:13,409 --> 00:38:16,319
happy to do it. And we'll do it
live too. So that way, you know,

561
00:38:16,319 --> 00:38:19,499
I can feel questions. So let me
kind of buckle down and make a

562
00:38:19,499 --> 00:38:22,769
presentation. So that way I can
give you guys a good overview.

563
00:38:23,129 --> 00:38:26,429
And, and kind of go with it.
What I will say about FOIA

564
00:38:26,429 --> 00:38:28,589
because it looks like a lot of
people want to want to use it in

565
00:38:28,589 --> 00:38:31,979
here, which is so encouraging to
me. One thing that I always want

566
00:38:31,979 --> 00:38:36,599
to say is you can never stop
learning about the FOIA process.

567
00:38:36,629 --> 00:38:42,659
I mean, there's something
really, really sorry, I'm

568
00:38:42,659 --> 00:38:46,199
switching something here.
There's something really

569
00:38:46,229 --> 00:38:49,799
simplistic, but also really
complicated about the process.

570
00:38:50,129 --> 00:38:53,549
And that you can dive into it
and really get going right away.

571
00:38:53,939 --> 00:39:00,629
But in the same respect, you can
learn things all the time. And

572
00:39:00,629 --> 00:39:04,259
and that's that's something that
I always pass on that. In my

573
00:39:04,259 --> 00:39:08,969
opinion. There's never there's
never a FOIA expert. There's no

574
00:39:08,969 --> 00:39:13,769
such thing, because after 25
years, I'm learning all the

575
00:39:13,769 --> 00:39:18,149
time. So let me go to the phones
here. I just had to reset

576
00:39:18,149 --> 00:39:20,339
something. So I'm hoping
everything's working. Well.

577
00:39:20,609 --> 00:39:27,059
You're Live on the Air. Who's
this? Hey, john, it's JT JT with

578
00:39:27,059 --> 00:39:30,749
the hawk. How are you, buddy?
Good. I'm doing good batter

579
00:39:30,749 --> 00:39:35,549
getting it done. I love the fact
that you did that. Thank you so

580
00:39:35,549 --> 00:39:39,119
much. For those who don't know,
I met JT. Out of all the hours

581
00:39:39,119 --> 00:39:42,869
of radio I've done it was just
such a great phone call. And

582
00:39:43,049 --> 00:39:46,679
you're a truck driver JT and you
gave the honk at the end to

583
00:39:46,679 --> 00:39:49,889
Jimmy church and myself. There
was just something so genuinely

584
00:39:49,889 --> 00:39:54,389
cool about you as a person and
your call and and I'm so glad

585
00:39:54,389 --> 00:39:57,569
that we became friends after
that. So, so thanks. So thank

586
00:39:57,569 --> 00:40:00,869
you. Absolutely. So So what What
can I do for you? You got a

587
00:40:00,869 --> 00:40:02,849
comment, question, toots.

588
00:40:04,410 --> 00:40:07,770
Unknown: question Do you have
any? I got two questions real

589
00:40:07,770 --> 00:40:12,720
quick ones. You have any any
insight on the Senate

590
00:40:12,810 --> 00:40:16,320
Intelligence Appropriation Bill,
what that's been a food for the

591
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:22,110
next session of the UAP
passports or dollar wise or

592
00:40:22,140 --> 00:40:26,460
dates like yearly quarterly
reports or anything like that?

593
00:40:26,670 --> 00:40:27,360
Yeah. So

594
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,610
John Greenewald: I briefly went
over that in the beginning of

595
00:40:29,610 --> 00:40:34,140
the show and and what what I
profiled was the Air Force

596
00:40:34,140 --> 00:40:41,340
involvement. However, the I
think that there's, there's a

597
00:40:41,340 --> 00:40:45,750
much bigger video to this. But
in short, it looks like if

598
00:40:45,750 --> 00:40:49,950
everything goes forward, and if
everything passes as it's

599
00:40:49,950 --> 00:40:54,930
written now, it looks like there
will be I believe it's quarterly

600
00:40:54,930 --> 00:40:57,450
reports, I don't have it in
front of me. But as it stands

601
00:40:57,450 --> 00:41:01,470
right now, there will be reports
that are submitted. So

602
00:41:01,470 --> 00:41:08,010
essentially, it's more funding
and, and more, more informing of

603
00:41:08,250 --> 00:41:13,200
Congress and senate of what is
going on. But the where I'm

604
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,890
apprehensive to say that that's
going to happen is that they're

605
00:41:16,890 --> 00:41:21,510
so in their preliminary stages
at this point, that we just

606
00:41:21,510 --> 00:41:26,940
don't know that we we don't know
what is essentially going to be

607
00:41:26,940 --> 00:41:30,780
passed and what what makes it
through. So there was a lot of

608
00:41:30,780 --> 00:41:35,490
concern with the 2021 bill that
that UAP essentially mandate for

609
00:41:35,490 --> 00:41:39,570
the report would maybe fall out.
Luckily, it didn't. So, you

610
00:41:39,570 --> 00:41:42,510
know, it's the long winded way
of saying things are working,

611
00:41:42,510 --> 00:41:48,510
things are progressing. But it
still has a long way to pass.

612
00:41:48,720 --> 00:41:51,450
For those who don't know, and I
don't have his Twitter handle in

613
00:41:51,450 --> 00:41:57,660
front of me, but you can search
for his name. D Dean Johnson has

614
00:41:57,660 --> 00:42:02,100
really done an excellent job
following the progression of

615
00:42:02,100 --> 00:42:07,710
these bills, did it in 2021. And
he's doing it again in 2022. It

616
00:42:07,710 --> 00:42:12,360
is a very confusing and
complicated process. But Dean

617
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,660
does an excellent job at kind of
making these tweet threads and

618
00:42:15,660 --> 00:42:19,440
making it make sense. So after
the show, I'll link it in the

619
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,560
show notes. So that way, people
can have a direct link, but but

620
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:27,720
make sure you just search for D.
Dean Johnson, and he's

621
00:42:27,720 --> 00:42:29,670
definitely following the
progression as well.

622
00:42:31,290 --> 00:42:35,730
Unknown: All right, thanks for
that, man. Real quick on Luis

623
00:42:35,730 --> 00:42:40,680
Elizondo. I mean, they seem like
that whole ever since, like a

624
00:42:40,740 --> 00:42:44,100
after a couple weeks after the
report came out, and they've

625
00:42:44,100 --> 00:42:47,640
been very quiet. Now. You may
have had personal contact with

626
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:51,330
him or whatever. But it seems
like that all dried up all the

627
00:42:51,330 --> 00:42:54,240
leaks that now dried up.
Everything's dried up. Yeah.

628
00:42:54,570 --> 00:42:57,990
Like flip the switch off. Just
wanted your opinion on that. No,

629
00:42:57,990 --> 00:43:00,060
you have any insight you could
give us on that?

630
00:43:00,180 --> 00:43:03,120
John Greenewald: I wish I had
insight. I've noticed the same.

631
00:43:03,210 --> 00:43:06,930
I have not communicated with Mr.
Elizondo. And a little bit. I

632
00:43:06,930 --> 00:43:11,100
did send him a message this week
about the credo agreement. That

633
00:43:11,100 --> 00:43:14,850
was more so as a courtesy, I
don't think he can comment on

634
00:43:14,850 --> 00:43:18,390
it. Just simply because he's
according to what he has said

635
00:43:18,390 --> 00:43:23,280
publicly, not affiliated with
ttsa anymore. But I also like to

636
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:26,910
keep them updated and stuff like
that. If he cares. I didn't hear

637
00:43:26,910 --> 00:43:31,380
back from him. So I don't know.
You know, what's going on. But

638
00:43:31,380 --> 00:43:35,520
to your question about a lot of
stuff seemingly just drying up.

639
00:43:35,850 --> 00:43:40,830
Yeah, that's, that's really, you
know, I commented on the media

640
00:43:40,830 --> 00:43:45,030
part of it. But really, with the
momentum of those, we'll call

641
00:43:45,030 --> 00:43:48,840
them leaks and stuff like that
surfacing from Jeremy korbel.

642
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:52,680
And George Knapp. And, you know,
Luis Elizondo is never leaked,

643
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:56,430
anything that I'm aware of.
That's tagged to him. But it

644
00:43:56,430 --> 00:44:00,780
just seems like all of that has
stopped. And and either switch.

645
00:44:01,260 --> 00:44:05,550
Yeah. Met now. Hopefully, maybe
this is the calm before the

646
00:44:05,550 --> 00:44:10,110
storm. JT, who knows? we'll wake
up on Monday morning. And, you

647
00:44:10,110 --> 00:44:13,980
know, we'll have a triangle UFO
video coming out of the water? I

648
00:44:13,980 --> 00:44:18,840
don't know. But yeah, I I don't
know what to what to make of it.

649
00:44:18,900 --> 00:44:22,650
You know, I really don't. With
the with the government side.

650
00:44:23,070 --> 00:44:27,660
I'm curious to know, after that
report was published, it was

651
00:44:27,660 --> 00:44:33,450
said by the DNI that 90 days
thereafter, they were set to

652
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:39,060
update Congress again. Now, the
question mark, for me, that

653
00:44:39,060 --> 00:44:44,850
nobody's really addressed. Is
will that be public at all? Is

654
00:44:44,850 --> 00:44:49,860
it even a report? You know, I
mean, we don't know. And I think

655
00:44:49,860 --> 00:44:52,080
a lot of people had some false
hope. Like, all right, we're

656
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:56,250
getting another report 90 days.
There's no indication of that.

657
00:44:56,460 --> 00:45:01,020
So moving forward, I think we're
really going to Have to allow

658
00:45:01,020 --> 00:45:05,700
that process to unfold, which
will then set the stage for the

659
00:45:05,700 --> 00:45:09,540
years to come. Because if they
start closing the door on all of

660
00:45:09,540 --> 00:45:13,530
that, I think there's a Fat
chance that we will, you know,

661
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:17,370
get absolutely nothing when it
comes to uaps. And they'll try

662
00:45:17,370 --> 00:45:21,690
and keep a tight lid on it. From
here on out. Very well.

663
00:45:21,720 --> 00:45:26,880
Unknown: Yeah, I appreciate you
let me get in on a call and all

664
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:30,330
the hard work you do and all the
little surprises, they get mail

665
00:45:30,330 --> 00:45:34,470
from us like, wow, okay. I mean,
that takes a lot of effort and

666
00:45:34,470 --> 00:45:37,680
time on your part doesn't seem
like much maybe for one person.

667
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,140
But you know, you're doing that
for everybody. That's pretty

668
00:45:40,140 --> 00:45:41,280
cool. Well, I

669
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:42,690
John Greenewald: appreciate
that.

670
00:45:45,210 --> 00:45:49,050
Unknown: Anyway, so I just want
to say hello to all the bald

671
00:45:49,050 --> 00:45:57,000
heads as I call them bald heads.
Yep. And numbers. 624 to 26.

672
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,240
Everybody, God bless you and
take it easy. Have a good

673
00:46:00,240 --> 00:46:02,970
weekend. And thank you, john.
And this is for all the ball

674
00:46:02,970 --> 00:46:04,290
heads out there. And

675
00:46:06,930 --> 00:46:09,450
John Greenewald: I love it. JT,
thank you so much, man. You call

676
00:46:09,450 --> 00:46:10,230
in any time?

677
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,470
Unknown: Yeah, it's very rare
that I get a chance to calling

678
00:46:13,470 --> 00:46:16,440
because because of my weird
schedule. You know, you just

679
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:18,150
happen to hit it right on and I
thank you.

680
00:46:18,180 --> 00:46:19,890
John Greenewald: Well, I'm glad
I did. Thanks again. Man. You

681
00:46:19,890 --> 00:46:22,170
have a great day. Be safe out
there on the roads too. And have

682
00:46:22,170 --> 00:46:26,640
a great night. All right. Thank
you. Thanks, john. Such a great

683
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,880
guy really is cool. So I
appreciate that vault heads.

684
00:46:29,910 --> 00:46:34,410
That's a new one. So I wrote
that down mobile will will have

685
00:46:34,410 --> 00:46:39,180
to credit JT for the vault
heads. So Matthew Riot didn't

686
00:46:39,180 --> 00:46:42,870
want you to think I missed you
there. Thank you so much. Yes,

687
00:46:42,870 --> 00:46:47,940
the back hurts. Come do some
dabs. Buddy. My back hurts. For

688
00:46:47,940 --> 00:46:50,760
those who missed it. I did
something to my back so I can

689
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:57,390
barely move. So I I appreciate
that. Matthew, I might take you

690
00:46:57,390 --> 00:47:01,050
up on it. I really enjoy. Oh,
let me see if I get this. pop it

691
00:47:01,050 --> 00:47:10,530
up. Pop Up pop up. Judy, I see
your so sorry. I don't know why

692
00:47:10,530 --> 00:47:17,940
it's not popping up. Okay, Judy
McAuliffe for I don't know why

693
00:47:17,940 --> 00:47:20,160
it's not popping up. So I
apologize. I really enjoy all

694
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:23,190
you do plus your Hollywood
ventures. Judy, thank you for

695
00:47:23,190 --> 00:47:25,620
that. I'm sorry, I would put
your name and lights on there.

696
00:47:25,950 --> 00:47:28,830
And I'm clicking on it. And it's
just not going on there. So I

697
00:47:29,130 --> 00:47:33,840
don't know why. But I appreciate
it. g d that one pops up. So

698
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:38,220
Judy, I do apologize about that.
Is it possible some army

699
00:47:38,220 --> 00:47:42,030
analysis of samples has occurred
but results are not ready to

700
00:47:42,030 --> 00:47:46,920
release yet? Absolutely. That is
a possibility. What I that was

701
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:50,220
my intention to reach out to
ttsa. Because the documents I

702
00:47:50,220 --> 00:47:54,660
got were from May. So a lot has
happened since then. However, by

703
00:47:54,660 --> 00:47:57,600
them pointing me to their
meeting minutes and press

704
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:01,080
releases. There was no press
release on anything. And the

705
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:05,910
meeting minutes has obviously
blamed COVID. I'm totally open

706
00:48:05,910 --> 00:48:10,020
though to that. And that's why
when and I don't want to just

707
00:48:10,020 --> 00:48:13,380
pick on ttsa here. But when you
write a story, and you want to

708
00:48:13,380 --> 00:48:20,010
be as accurate as possible,
speaking in vagueness and not

709
00:48:20,010 --> 00:48:23,640
being helpful with like, How
hard would it have been to give

710
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:27,870
me the same exact statement with
a link to something like, Hey,

711
00:48:27,900 --> 00:48:32,100
we can't really add anything to
this. But here's our minutes, or

712
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:35,010
here's our press release that we
think you should look at or

713
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,920
something. And instead you just
go Yeah, sorry, we can't add

714
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:41,250
anything. Here's 12,000 pages to
look through. So you know,

715
00:48:41,250 --> 00:48:45,180
figure it out. That that makes
it really difficult, you know,

716
00:48:45,180 --> 00:48:49,050
and when somebody is trying to
genuinely be as accurate as

717
00:48:49,050 --> 00:48:52,800
possible, and give you guys all
of the the information that

718
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,410
would have been helpful. Is
there something that they just

719
00:48:55,410 --> 00:48:58,830
haven't released yet? Quite
possibly, but again, internally

720
00:48:58,830 --> 00:49:02,130
at the army, it just seemed like
nothing was nothing was going

721
00:49:02,130 --> 00:49:05,940
on. And that was also the
official statement as well, that

722
00:49:05,940 --> 00:49:10,320
there was absolutely, you know,
nothing there. So that's what's

723
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:15,330
kind of frustrating about it.
Let me see one more. Nick

724
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,420
northcutt. Thank you for that.
We need more people like you

725
00:49:18,420 --> 00:49:21,390
pushing this issue on our
leaders. We deserve to know

726
00:49:21,390 --> 00:49:24,600
where they stand. Cheers, Nick,
cheers to you. Thank you for

727
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:28,860
that support. Absolutely. We
need more. Here's a shout out to

728
00:49:28,860 --> 00:49:31,980
my friends over at the
unidentified celebrity review

729
00:49:31,980 --> 00:49:35,310
and Luis Jimenez. Michael matter
loony rather be squinting. I

730
00:49:35,310 --> 00:49:39,570
don't know if you guys are in
the chat. I'm not really doing a

731
00:49:39,570 --> 00:49:43,290
good job keeping up on all this.
But if you guys are out there,

732
00:49:43,740 --> 00:49:47,550
they are doing the big phone
home. This is the big phone home

733
00:49:47,550 --> 00:49:53,610
too. And they are pushing the
elected leaders to do something

734
00:49:53,610 --> 00:49:59,010
about this. Now I rarely get
behind ventures like that. But

735
00:49:59,220 --> 00:50:02,880
after a meeting Louie's meeting
Michael meeting rather meet and

736
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:06,180
those are the three main main
individuals. There's a lot of

737
00:50:06,180 --> 00:50:08,430
other people involved, please I
know that I'm not naming

738
00:50:08,430 --> 00:50:12,420
everybody, but spearheaded by by
those three gentlemen. They're

739
00:50:12,420 --> 00:50:16,080
doing an awesome job and they
did one earlier this year. It's

740
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:21,600
the big phone home.com is how to
get to their website. They've

741
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,870
got a great and entertaining
show on YouTube that I would

742
00:50:24,870 --> 00:50:27,690
check out. But they do a great
job. They've got a lot of

743
00:50:27,690 --> 00:50:30,420
passion behind what they do. And
they're pushing their elected

744
00:50:30,420 --> 00:50:35,670
leaders to do something about
this, you know, and to figure it

745
00:50:35,670 --> 00:50:39,450
out. So that's what they that's
what they are up to. And I want

746
00:50:39,450 --> 00:50:43,740
to make sure that you guys check
that out as well. Let me see

747
00:50:43,740 --> 00:50:47,580
anonymous Rex, any thoughts on
the 2019 Bainbridge Island Tic

748
00:50:47,580 --> 00:50:51,990
Tac case now being highlighted
on the new show? encounter UFO?

749
00:50:53,910 --> 00:50:58,680
So let me see. I and I'm
surprised this hasn't come up

750
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,770
yet. I assume by by the

751
00:51:04,410 --> 00:51:07,710
by the show. UFO you're talking
about the Showtime one. I'm

752
00:51:07,710 --> 00:51:09,960
trying to think the Bainbridge
Island Tic Tac case now being

753
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:13,350
highlighted on the new show
encounter UFO, actually, then

754
00:51:13,380 --> 00:51:17,070
let me rephrase that no
encounter UFO. I'm not sure what

755
00:51:17,130 --> 00:51:22,950
anonymous Rex, which show that
is the Bainbridge though. I

756
00:51:22,950 --> 00:51:26,550
believe that I've heard someone
to I don't want to speak out of

757
00:51:26,550 --> 00:51:30,870
turn here. But I believe I've
heard somebody talk about this

758
00:51:30,870 --> 00:51:34,950
publicly. So if it wound up in a
television show, that's good. I

759
00:51:34,950 --> 00:51:39,930
believe I have an open request
on that. And and looking into

760
00:51:39,930 --> 00:51:46,650
it. So I will have to check my
records on it and see what's out

761
00:51:46,650 --> 00:51:50,700
there public. But But obviously,
on a television show. I'm just

762
00:51:50,700 --> 00:51:55,440
not sure which encounter UFO
that show is. So if you can put

763
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:59,130
it in the show is on. Okay, so
I'm going through the comments

764
00:51:59,130 --> 00:52:05,430
The show is on t and e, t and e
t and e. Sorry, I don't know

765
00:52:05,430 --> 00:52:09,870
what t n e is probably just
going to draw a blank. But let

766
00:52:09,870 --> 00:52:13,380
me know. And I'll try and keep a
watch on the you know, watch on

767
00:52:13,380 --> 00:52:15,360
the comments for you. But I'm
not familiar with the show

768
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:19,830
encounter UFO isotope ratio data
would only take a day at most to

769
00:52:19,830 --> 00:52:22,800
generate I smell a rat, bow.
Thank you for that donation.

770
00:52:24,750 --> 00:52:28,290
This is the thing about isotopic
ratio. And I dealt a lot with it

771
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:32,760
on the on the History Channel
show where I profiled what is

772
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:38,100
now in the hands of ttsa. And it
is number one very expensive.

773
00:52:38,940 --> 00:52:41,280
But number two, there's not a
whole lot of places that can do

774
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:44,610
it. And you're absolutely right.
The places that can which I

775
00:52:44,610 --> 00:52:47,190
assume would be the United
States Army, which I assume is

776
00:52:47,190 --> 00:52:50,520
why they're doing this agreement
could probably come up with very

777
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:53,910
fascinating results very
quickly. And that goes back to

778
00:52:53,910 --> 00:52:57,510
my comment that if you're doing
your television production or

779
00:52:57,510 --> 00:53:01,740
your movies, through ttss
Entertainment division, that's

780
00:53:01,740 --> 00:53:07,500
great. I truly I've always
wished Tom DeLonge him being a

781
00:53:07,500 --> 00:53:11,730
successful entrepreneur luck,
and what my best wishes for

782
00:53:11,730 --> 00:53:16,500
those ventures. There's nothing
bad I can say about it. However,

783
00:53:16,500 --> 00:53:21,420
when I talk about their analysis
and credo agreement, if you're

784
00:53:21,420 --> 00:53:24,240
doing the entertainment
division, why would you not just

785
00:53:24,240 --> 00:53:27,630
take a little bit of time to go
and get those answers? They

786
00:53:27,630 --> 00:53:31,830
could probably be determined
very quickly. And that's that's

787
00:53:31,830 --> 00:53:35,640
what I don't understand, and
they're not doing it. So that

788
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:39,480
said, you have a great point, I
wish I had a better answer for

789
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:43,950
you. I wish ttsa would open up
to their investors, their

790
00:53:43,950 --> 00:53:48,630
investors, I think deserve an
answer. And per their investors

791
00:53:48,630 --> 00:53:51,630
in the meeting minutes that they
gave to all of their investors,

792
00:53:51,990 --> 00:53:55,830
they fell back on the COVID
excuse now that I don't want to

793
00:53:55,830 --> 00:53:58,170
diminish that that is something
that's very important and

794
00:53:58,170 --> 00:54:01,590
something that has altered all
of our lives. But again, you

795
00:54:01,590 --> 00:54:04,740
can't in one breath, say, you
know, we're doing all this

796
00:54:04,740 --> 00:54:08,190
entertainment stuff. And we're
in production on X, Y and Z. And

797
00:54:08,190 --> 00:54:11,580
then blame COVID for not doing
the tests. If the army comes

798
00:54:11,580 --> 00:54:13,950
back to me on Monday and says,
Yeah, we've been shut down for a

799
00:54:13,950 --> 00:54:18,030
year and a half. Great, I will
absolutely publish that and say

800
00:54:18,030 --> 00:54:21,510
this is where we're at. But
internally, those documents did

801
00:54:21,510 --> 00:54:24,390
not produce any evidence that
they were that they were shut

802
00:54:24,390 --> 00:54:27,930
down. And if ttsa was able to
communicate with more

803
00:54:27,930 --> 00:54:31,230
statements, maybe we can get
some clarity. Let me hit the

804
00:54:31,260 --> 00:54:36,030
phones again. Who's this? This
is a Jamie Moore from Kentucky.

805
00:54:36,270 --> 00:54:37,140
Hey there. How are you?

806
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:42,360
Unknown: doing? Well. I just
have a quick question for you. I

807
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:45,660
was wondering, what do you think
about how you must shed and the

808
00:54:45,660 --> 00:54:48,060
validity of his story? If you're
familiar with him?

809
00:54:50,070 --> 00:54:53,400
John Greenewald: If I'm familiar
with who again? Hi, Michelle.

810
00:54:53,700 --> 00:54:57,870
The Israeli Yes, yes, sir. Yes,
I'm sorry. I didn't catch it.

811
00:54:57,870 --> 00:55:01,080
You're referring to Yes.
Familiar With the story, but yes

812
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:01,620
familiar

813
00:55:04,049 --> 00:55:08,579
Unknown: to me if you've done
any research into that, you

814
00:55:08,579 --> 00:55:10,649
know, it kind of get your
opinion on it. Yeah,

815
00:55:10,650 --> 00:55:12,930
John Greenewald: no, and I
appreciate the question I, it

816
00:55:12,930 --> 00:55:17,580
really reminds me of like a
story like Paul hellyer, who

817
00:55:17,580 --> 00:55:21,060
recently passed away here in the
last week or two, where a

818
00:55:21,060 --> 00:55:24,150
government official or somebody
that seemingly connected comes

819
00:55:24,150 --> 00:55:27,840
out with a story, but doesn't
bring a whole lot of evidence

820
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:32,310
with them. Now, that doesn't
take away from the story. But

821
00:55:32,310 --> 00:55:37,260
it's very hard to verify
information like that. And I

822
00:55:37,260 --> 00:55:42,180
think with with this particular
case, with the late Paul

823
00:55:42,180 --> 00:55:48,240
hellyer, in quite a few doing
the same, it's very hard. And so

824
00:55:48,240 --> 00:55:53,040
for me, I'm very much very much
a nuts and bolts, I need

825
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:55,290
evidence kind of guy. And if
somebody comes to me with a

826
00:55:55,290 --> 00:55:59,940
story, I need that kind of hard
evidence to go along with it.

827
00:56:00,240 --> 00:56:03,240
And I'll be it is very
interesting and intriguing. And

828
00:56:03,240 --> 00:56:06,720
I thought I'd try and follow you
know, developments like that

829
00:56:06,750 --> 00:56:08,490
there's not a lot you can do
with it.

830
00:56:12,030 --> 00:56:15,030
Unknown: Anybody to kind of he
said there's connecting with

831
00:56:15,060 --> 00:56:19,710
American astronauts, then we're
gonna get a list of astronauts

832
00:56:19,710 --> 00:56:20,790
that are still here on Earth.

833
00:56:21,720 --> 00:56:23,820
John Greenewald: Well, that
yeah, that the the astronaut

834
00:56:24,060 --> 00:56:28,680
angle to a lot of this is is
also very intriguing to me. I

835
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:31,890
have spent time with with quite
a few astronauts I was raised,

836
00:56:32,370 --> 00:56:35,130
where my dad worked on the space
shuttle, I got to meet quite a

837
00:56:35,130 --> 00:56:39,120
few. When it comes to like their
UFO encounters. What makes it

838
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:42,930
really muddy when you get to
astronaut encounters, is that a

839
00:56:42,930 --> 00:56:45,480
lot of the stories are
embellished and have kind of

840
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:49,590
taken on a life of its own prime
example, when I first started

841
00:56:49,590 --> 00:56:54,000
the black vault back in 96, I
had written Neil Armstrong. And

842
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,760
it was based on all of the
photographs of him on the

843
00:56:56,760 --> 00:57:00,480
surface of the moon and really
kind of well known in the UFO

844
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:05,010
field, where there's like a ring
of light above him. And the

845
00:57:05,010 --> 00:57:09,300
story was that Neil Armstrong
saw things on the crater edge. I

846
00:57:09,300 --> 00:57:11,430
don't know if you're familiar
with those stories, but those

847
00:57:11,610 --> 00:57:16,380
have circulated for years and
years and years. And and Neil

848
00:57:16,380 --> 00:57:19,890
Armstrong's administrative aide
actually wrote me back and and

849
00:57:20,130 --> 00:57:25,230
apparently asked, at least as
the, the letter goes, asked Neil

850
00:57:25,230 --> 00:57:29,340
Armstrong about my my question.
And he said, none of it was

851
00:57:29,340 --> 00:57:33,330
true, all of those stories were
were bunk. And so that's what

852
00:57:33,330 --> 00:57:35,610
kind of makes it really
challenging unless you get an

853
00:57:35,610 --> 00:57:39,240
astronaut, you know, on the
record talking about UFOs, which

854
00:57:39,270 --> 00:57:44,130
some have done, but at least
that, that to me, there's

855
00:57:44,130 --> 00:57:48,330
usually photographs or videos to
go along with it, you know,

856
00:57:48,330 --> 00:57:51,150
where you have things that are
seen on space shuttle missions,

857
00:57:51,150 --> 00:57:54,810
and so on and so forth. So you
have that to back it up. But

858
00:57:54,810 --> 00:57:57,540
those those in itself are very
challenging. You know, it's,

859
00:57:57,540 --> 00:58:05,130
it's, it's really hard to verify
stories like that. Alright, I

860
00:58:05,130 --> 00:58:08,550
guess that's about it. I gotta
get back to work. I appreciate

861
00:58:08,550 --> 00:58:10,410
that. You're just one. Yeah, I
don't know if I answered your

862
00:58:10,410 --> 00:58:12,390
question. Good enough, but I
appreciate the question

863
00:58:12,390 --> 00:58:17,880
nonetheless. Absolutely. Thank
you. Alright, thanks for that

864
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:21,450
call bow. Again, thank you so
much for your, your support.

865
00:58:21,450 --> 00:58:25,110
Here, I spent 40 years doing
mass spectroscopy is I believe,

866
00:58:25,110 --> 00:58:28,290
the short form there. It's cheap
and easy. If you have the

867
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:31,650
equipment, many labs have the
equipment. So mass, okay, so

868
00:58:31,650 --> 00:58:34,770
this goes also to it. And you're
going to be smarter than the me

869
00:58:34,770 --> 00:58:39,660
on this. And so maybe I'm using
the wrong terminology. But what

870
00:58:39,660 --> 00:58:42,480
I can say is that when we were
doing those shows on science, we

871
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:48,030
did quite a few when it came to
UFO testing and stuff like that.

872
00:58:48,330 --> 00:58:53,100
The spectroscopy was not the
expensive part, the isotopic

873
00:58:53,100 --> 00:58:56,340
ratio, abundance test, if I
remember correctly, and I'm

874
00:58:56,340 --> 00:58:59,820
going back years, in this very
old brain of mine member, I

875
00:58:59,820 --> 00:59:04,620
injured my back. So I think I'm
falling apart. But the the

876
00:59:04,620 --> 00:59:08,700
isotopic ratio abundance test
was the expensive one. And

877
00:59:08,700 --> 00:59:10,950
although this wasn't, you know,
yesterday, when we were doing

878
00:59:10,950 --> 00:59:14,970
it, it was a few years ago,
quite a few, maybe eight now,

879
00:59:15,270 --> 00:59:19,080
maybe eight or nine. It was
very, very expensive. Now, I

880
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:22,020
assume in eight or nine years,
it's gotten a lot less

881
00:59:22,020 --> 00:59:26,880
expensive, more prevalent, and
so on. So again, you you have

882
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:29,670
excellent points, I just wanted
to differentiate with my

883
00:59:30,510 --> 00:59:35,520
admitted ignorance on all of the
terminology there. That's what I

884
00:59:35,550 --> 00:59:39,480
my experience was eight or nine
years ago trying to get the same

885
00:59:39,540 --> 00:59:43,890
as well. So but Bo, you bring up
excellent points. I truly I

886
00:59:44,550 --> 00:59:47,100
you're sitting on the key to the
universe, I'll say it 1000

887
00:59:47,100 --> 00:59:50,640
times, why don't you just go and
get the test done and figure out

888
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:55,050
what's going on? Why not? It's
beyond me. So let's go to the

889
00:59:55,050 --> 00:59:55,830
phones. Who's this?

890
00:59:56,820 --> 00:59:59,970
Unknown: Good evening. Mr.
Greenwald is Rob from floor

891
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:03,630
Thank you very much for taking
my call. You're very welcome.

892
01:00:03,630 --> 01:00:03,840
Thank

893
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:05,520
John Greenewald: you. Thank you
for calling. What can I do for

894
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:05,700
you?

895
01:00:06,330 --> 01:00:09,180
Unknown: You got it. It's such a
pleasure to speak to you. I've

896
01:00:09,180 --> 01:00:12,420
been following your work for
years. Don't change a thing and

897
01:00:12,420 --> 01:00:15,780
carry on. I appreciate your
objectivity. And the way that

898
01:00:15,780 --> 01:00:21,720
you try to vet the evidence. The
question for you I have I'd like

899
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:26,550
to refer to the chapter in the
Air Force Academy physics

900
01:00:26,580 --> 01:00:30,900
textbook that was used on our
about 68 through 70, which I'm

901
01:00:30,900 --> 01:00:35,820
sure you're familiar with that?
Yes. Okay. How has that been

902
01:00:35,820 --> 01:00:39,990
authenticated? I know Lee
Spiegel got it from state and he

903
01:00:39,990 --> 01:00:44,130
received it from Dr. Hynek and
Dr. Hynek said it was used in

904
01:00:44,130 --> 01:00:47,250
the textbook. Do you know of
anybody that's actually held

905
01:00:47,250 --> 01:00:50,520
that textbook in their hands and
seen that chapter and I'm not

906
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:53,100
trying to doubt its
authenticity? But that would be

907
01:00:53,100 --> 01:00:56,250
a very valuable authentication?
Because that's a pretty

908
01:00:56,250 --> 01:00:57,360
important document.

909
01:00:57,480 --> 01:01:00,510
John Greenewald: Yeah. Off the
top of my head, it is a

910
01:01:00,510 --> 01:01:05,700
fantastic question. I don't
know. I don't I don't have

911
01:01:05,700 --> 01:01:09,300
personal. I don't have a
personal reason to doubt the

912
01:01:09,300 --> 01:01:13,830
authenticity either. But in the
same respect, no, I if memory

913
01:01:13,830 --> 01:01:17,730
serves, and I'll have to look
back years and years ago, I

914
01:01:17,730 --> 01:01:20,580
tried to track one down via
FOIA. You know, a lot of those

915
01:01:20,580 --> 01:01:24,000
things, you can get texture ups,
and so on and so forth and came

916
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:27,240
up empty. But the problem with
textbooks like that is sometimes

917
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:30,630
they're not not saved, like
normal government reports or

918
01:01:30,630 --> 01:01:34,410
records. So it was kind of like
a dead end. But it was a dead

919
01:01:34,410 --> 01:01:37,050
end. That didn't really mean
anything. But I'll have to look

920
01:01:37,050 --> 01:01:40,740
back and get you a better answer
on that. But in regards to

921
01:01:40,740 --> 01:01:44,130
somebody physically holding that
textbook, off the top of my

922
01:01:44,130 --> 01:01:48,240
head, no, I just know the
stories of how you just put it.

923
01:01:48,540 --> 01:01:52,380
Leigh Spiegel through J. Allen
Hynek and going back, you know,

924
01:01:52,380 --> 01:01:56,490
what is that? 5060 years? It's a
long time, you know, a long time

925
01:01:56,490 --> 01:02:02,040
ago. So yeah, no, I wish I had a
better answer for you. I just am

926
01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:02,580
not aware.

927
01:02:04,050 --> 01:02:07,590
Unknown: In your opinion, has it
been authenticated to your

928
01:02:07,590 --> 01:02:08,490
satisfaction?

929
01:02:09,269 --> 01:02:12,059
John Greenewald: That particular
document? Again, I just don't

930
01:02:12,059 --> 01:02:16,259
have any reason to doubt it. I
don't. You know, it's not like

931
01:02:16,259 --> 01:02:20,519
an mj 12 controversial document,
Dr. J. Allen Hynek, you know,

932
01:02:20,519 --> 01:02:24,419
was was obviously very careful
with I think things he put his

933
01:02:24,419 --> 01:02:29,369
name behind. So yeah, from what
I recall, and I'll look back, I

934
01:02:29,369 --> 01:02:32,309
just don't think of anything
that stuck out to me is saying,

935
01:02:32,309 --> 01:02:35,279
Now this, this can't be, you
know, can't be real.

936
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:40,110
Unknown: You know, when you read
that document, it's interesting

937
01:02:40,110 --> 01:02:44,910
what it does not say, and what
it does not say is, you know,

938
01:02:44,910 --> 01:02:48,930
Air Force students pay no
attention to this. We studied

939
01:02:48,930 --> 01:02:52,020
it. There's nothing there.
You're going to get Don't waste

940
01:02:52,020 --> 01:02:55,680
your time and resources on it.
You know, it doesn't say that.

941
01:02:55,710 --> 01:02:58,680
Yeah, exactly. It goes into
quite detail, saying that they

942
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:02,310
think maybe perhaps three or
four civilizations or could be

943
01:03:02,310 --> 01:03:05,340
visiting, you know, it's couched
and could be using maybes.

944
01:03:05,370 --> 01:03:08,640
However, you know, they do make
statements, and they're,

945
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:09,810
they're, they're quite alarming.

946
01:03:10,830 --> 01:03:12,960
John Greenewald: Yeah, it's been
a while since I've looked at it.

947
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:18,420
But But yeah, I recall, seeing
stuff like that. That's why I

948
01:03:18,420 --> 01:03:21,690
think the context of the entire
book and physically holding the

949
01:03:21,690 --> 01:03:25,860
entire thing in your hand would
be key to see exactly, you know,

950
01:03:25,860 --> 01:03:30,240
what was the context of what
they were saying. You know, a

951
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:33,540
lot of times I use this as a
silly example, but it's a good

952
01:03:33,540 --> 01:03:37,080
example, nonetheless, that the
context of the information in a

953
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:40,650
document is key. And sometimes
you lose that context. And the

954
01:03:40,650 --> 01:03:47,850
example I give is a, a
preparedness plan for a zombie

955
01:03:47,850 --> 01:03:54,600
apocalypse. And as silly as that
sounds, it exists. And there

956
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:58,200
were classified versions and
references to it. It's called

957
01:03:58,260 --> 01:04:02,910
con plan 8888. And I've had it
on the black Vault for years.

958
01:04:03,270 --> 01:04:07,080
Now out of context, I tell you
that and go look that they're

959
01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:09,720
preparing just on the off
chance, there's zombie

960
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:12,780
apocalypse, they've prepared for
it. There's this preparedness

961
01:04:12,780 --> 01:04:17,580
plan. All of that is true. The
context, however, is that it was

962
01:04:17,580 --> 01:04:22,890
actually a training manual on
how to create these preparedness

963
01:04:22,890 --> 01:04:27,090
plans. And the zombie apocalypse
was chosen, because it was the

964
01:04:27,090 --> 01:04:32,040
most generic and unlikely thing
ever to happen. And so it wasn't

965
01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:35,490
leaning towards, you know,
Hurricane destruction or a

966
01:04:35,490 --> 01:04:38,760
massive earthquake that was just
generic. And so they made this

967
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:41,970
preparedness plan. So out of
context, you know, things can

968
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:45,990
can absolutely be skewed a
certain way. I'm not saying that

969
01:04:45,990 --> 01:04:49,170
happened with this Air Force
manual. I'm just saying that,

970
01:04:49,230 --> 01:04:52,830
you know, context is always key.
So was this something that they

971
01:04:52,830 --> 01:04:56,160
were truly teaching their
students was this, you know,

972
01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:59,280
something else? I don't, I don't
know. But in regards to

973
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:02,160
legitimacy, I I just have not
seen anything to show that it

974
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:02,760
was a fake.

975
01:05:04,529 --> 01:05:08,849
Unknown: That's that's been my
my conclusion as well. And, you

976
01:05:08,849 --> 01:05:12,299
know, perhaps you can ask David
MARLAR? I mean, if anybody on

977
01:05:12,299 --> 01:05:15,809
it, no, it would be him or have
a copy. I mean, he's got a copy

978
01:05:15,809 --> 01:05:17,489
of everything else, it seems
like,

979
01:05:17,609 --> 01:05:20,639
John Greenewald: Yeah, he he's
got an amazing collection, I got

980
01:05:20,639 --> 01:05:24,569
to see it in person quite a few
years ago, when I was doing a

981
01:05:24,569 --> 01:05:29,549
lecture and got to go to his
home. And, you know, which David

982
01:05:29,549 --> 01:05:33,359
will be on this channel here in
the next few weeks. So stay

983
01:05:33,359 --> 01:05:37,289
tuned for that. He's a great
individual, but his collection

984
01:05:37,349 --> 01:05:42,419
is unmatched. I mean, it is
unbelievable what he has, and I

985
01:05:42,419 --> 01:05:46,769
give him so much credit for
taking the time to collect

986
01:05:46,769 --> 01:05:49,829
everything. So I wrote it down
while you were saying that,

987
01:05:49,829 --> 01:05:53,699
because I'll ask him about it.
And and specifically about that

988
01:05:53,699 --> 01:05:58,889
manual and see, did he find one
in his, in his truck to collect

989
01:05:58,889 --> 01:06:03,389
everything known to man when it
comes to UFOs? Or if he knows,

990
01:06:03,389 --> 01:06:07,199
but I'll write that down? Or
I've written down and I'll, I'll

991
01:06:07,199 --> 01:06:07,619
ask him?

992
01:06:08,429 --> 01:06:10,769
Unknown: Oh, that's great. Well,
I'm currently my wife and I are

993
01:06:10,769 --> 01:06:14,069
currently touring the United
States. And he has one stop on

994
01:06:14,069 --> 01:06:17,339
our tour, I want to make a
donation to his reference

995
01:06:17,339 --> 01:06:20,159
library there and visit with
him. So I'm really looking

996
01:06:20,159 --> 01:06:23,759
forward to that. And but, you
know, I'm not surprised if

997
01:06:23,759 --> 01:06:26,369
somebody doesn't have a copy of
that textbook, because as an

998
01:06:26,369 --> 01:06:29,849
internal matter, and you know,
they got rid of it after about

999
01:06:29,849 --> 01:06:33,839
1970 or so. So they probably all
got destroyed. But, you know,

1000
01:06:33,839 --> 01:06:35,849
there may be one or two
somewhere out in a used

1001
01:06:35,849 --> 01:06:37,619
bookstore. So yeah, that's

1002
01:06:37,620 --> 01:06:39,810
John Greenewald: the use
bookstores that are amazing.

1003
01:06:39,810 --> 01:06:44,250
I've told the story a couple
times, but it's like Rob Mercer

1004
01:06:44,250 --> 01:06:48,810
finding old Project bluebook
books and reports and stuff in

1005
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:52,590
in a garage, like on Craigslist
that was found in somebody's

1006
01:06:52,590 --> 01:06:56,640
garage. You never know where you
find this stuff. But yeah, great

1007
01:06:56,640 --> 01:06:58,890
question. And I'll make sure
that I asked Dave about it.

1008
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:02,130
Unknown: And I'll wrap up by
saying, Well, you know, that's

1009
01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:07,290
interesting, because David
MARLAR got some original photos

1010
01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:14,430
of the LA, the La Banda logo in
1942. Those came from a garage

1011
01:07:14,430 --> 01:07:18,660
sale from the AP photographer. I
mean, that is a fantastic story.

1012
01:07:19,620 --> 01:07:22,020
John Greenewald: Yeah, I love
I'm telling you that I geek out

1013
01:07:22,020 --> 01:07:24,060
about stories like that. Very,
very cool. Yeah,

1014
01:07:24,060 --> 01:07:28,260
Unknown: me too. Well, thank you
so much. And it's been a real

1015
01:07:28,260 --> 01:07:30,000
pleasure to talk to you.
Awesome. You as

1016
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:31,890
John Greenewald: well. Thanks
for calling call anytime. Yes,

1017
01:07:31,890 --> 01:07:36,180
sir. You bet. Thank you. All
right, couple. Let me see here a

1018
01:07:36,180 --> 01:07:39,900
couple super chats to get to
here. And thank you for all of

1019
01:07:39,900 --> 01:07:42,990
this. Oliver dro. JOHN ever read
this interesting, they offer a

1020
01:07:42,990 --> 01:07:46,320
reason for alien waves every 20
years or so the name of the

1021
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:48,600
article is inflation theory
implications for

1022
01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:53,340
extraterrestrial visitation.
link in the chat. Oh, Oliver,

1023
01:07:53,370 --> 01:07:56,160
thank you for the link, I will
definitely look it up off the

1024
01:07:56,160 --> 01:07:58,680
top of my head. That doesn't
sound familiar. So I will

1025
01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:03,510
definitely do that and see
what's in that document. So

1026
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:05,460
thank you for that. And thank
you for the support of the

1027
01:08:05,460 --> 01:08:08,100
channel. A couple more to get to
here. And then we'll go back to

1028
01:08:08,100 --> 01:08:12,900
the phones. g d, again, thank
you, not just ISIS, tope

1029
01:08:12,900 --> 01:08:15,150
analysis that is of interest,
the structure of the sample is

1030
01:08:15,150 --> 01:08:18,300
also of interest, Eg three
micron business layer and its

1031
01:08:18,300 --> 01:08:23,580
properties. Absolutely. Yeah,
you're you're spot on. And And

1032
01:08:23,580 --> 01:08:25,920
again, that's science that's out
of my realm. So I won't even

1033
01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:30,240
pretend to give you an eloquent
answer. Other than we need those

1034
01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:33,270
answers, you know why they're
not doing it? I'm not really

1035
01:08:33,270 --> 01:08:41,610
sure. JOHN Francoise and I'm
gonna botch the last name, so

1036
01:08:41,610 --> 01:08:44,310
I'm not going to try. But john
Francoise, thank you so much for

1037
01:08:44,310 --> 01:08:48,120
that. Really appreciate it.
Obviously, from Canada, no

1038
01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:51,360
question. Just want to thank you
for your work. Well, thank you

1039
01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:55,200
for your support. And I really
do appreciate that support of

1040
01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:58,950
the channel. And myself. So so
you're very, very welcome. But

1041
01:08:58,950 --> 01:09:03,060
thank you. Couple more here, and
then we'll go back to the

1042
01:09:03,060 --> 01:09:06,420
phones, artists and Tony if foil
only covers executive branch,

1043
01:09:07,350 --> 01:09:13,470
government, our FBI and CIA
Doc's gotten. Tony, I'm not sure

1044
01:09:13,470 --> 01:09:16,620
exactly what you mean by that.
So just a clarification, though,

1045
01:09:16,620 --> 01:09:21,300
executive branch when you get
into the White House, you are

1046
01:09:21,300 --> 01:09:24,090
not covered through FOIA. That's
through the Presidential Records

1047
01:09:24,090 --> 01:09:29,010
Act. And everything is exempt.
Until the president comes out of

1048
01:09:29,010 --> 01:09:32,820
office. It gets trained all of
his records, or through the

1049
01:09:32,820 --> 01:09:38,130
administration, for the most
part. There are there. It gets

1050
01:09:38,130 --> 01:09:41,040
complicated. There are
exceptions through the Executive

1051
01:09:41,250 --> 01:09:45,810
Office of the President that are
open through FOIA. However, the

1052
01:09:45,810 --> 01:09:49,380
majority of all white house
records, Presidential Records

1053
01:09:49,380 --> 01:09:52,080
are all through the Presidential
Records Act, gets transferred

1054
01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:55,110
over to the National Archives,
the National Archives, then

1055
01:09:55,110 --> 01:09:58,530
we'll run the library of the
President. All of that stuff

1056
01:09:58,530 --> 01:10:03,090
goes transferred over there. And
then then FOIA requests apply.

1057
01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:08,910
Our FBI and CIA Doc's gotten.
Again, I'm not I'm not 100% sure

1058
01:10:08,910 --> 01:10:11,100
what you mean by that. So I
apologize. Tony would try and

1059
01:10:11,100 --> 01:10:14,250
put it in the chat and I'll try
and catch. Catch the

1060
01:10:14,250 --> 01:10:16,620
clarification. I'm happy to
address it. I'm just not sure

1061
01:10:16,620 --> 01:10:20,670
what you mean. FBI though CIA.
They're all open to foi

1062
01:10:20,670 --> 01:10:29,340
requests. I've hit all of them
and 1000s of times over. Mahmud

1063
01:10:29,790 --> 01:10:32,910
II, thank you so much for that.
Is it possible to get radar data

1064
01:10:32,910 --> 01:10:36,060
from the Nimitz encounter via
FOIA? Without that, it seems all

1065
01:10:36,060 --> 01:10:39,210
we have to go on is witness
testimony. Yeah, I know that.

1066
01:10:39,810 --> 01:10:44,580
People like Dave Beatty, who is
a great researcher, been on this

1067
01:10:44,610 --> 01:10:47,430
program before, I don't want to
speak on His behalf because I

1068
01:10:47,430 --> 01:10:49,800
don't want to screw anything up.
But I know that he has gone

1069
01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:53,790
after the deck logs and radar
data and stuff like that. And a

1070
01:10:53,790 --> 01:10:57,510
lot of stuff in cases like this.
And even the later what we call

1071
01:10:57,510 --> 01:11:01,470
like the drone swarm encounters,
the drone encounters is missing.

1072
01:11:01,500 --> 01:11:05,160
And it's just not there. So I
don't want to say specifically

1073
01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:08,310
that the Dave has said that,
because I don't want to speak

1074
01:11:08,310 --> 01:11:11,730
for him, but he would be the one
to ask about that. But from what

1075
01:11:11,730 --> 01:11:16,290
I recall, know all of that is
gone, according to testimony by

1076
01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:21,000
people from the Princeton that
the tapes were taken, so all

1077
01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:25,830
sorts of stuff as is missing and
not around. So let me make sure

1078
01:11:25,830 --> 01:11:28,890
I'm although I think I got
everybody there. Make sure I

1079
01:11:28,890 --> 01:11:32,040
didn't miss anything. We go back
to the phones. Who's this?

1080
01:11:33,390 --> 01:11:36,480
Unknown: JOHN, this is Pat from
Philly, I'm your Barner the

1081
01:11:36,930 --> 01:11:37,650
Superjet.

1082
01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:41,130
John Greenewald: Hey there, how
are you? I'm great, man. How are

1083
01:11:41,130 --> 01:11:44,910
you? I'm good. Thank you. And
thank you for the thank you for

1084
01:11:44,910 --> 01:11:45,900
the support on every Yeah,

1085
01:11:45,900 --> 01:11:49,140
Unknown: no, no worries, buddy.
So the reason why I'm calling is

1086
01:11:49,140 --> 01:11:50,820
number one. Thank you for
everything you're doing. I think

1087
01:11:50,820 --> 01:11:53,670
you're excellent at what you do.
You're, you're open minded and

1088
01:11:53,670 --> 01:11:56,760
skeptical of a lot of things.
And I think you're probably the

1089
01:11:56,760 --> 01:12:00,690
most black and white and a level
headed that I that I see in this

1090
01:12:00,690 --> 01:12:04,260
and I listen, I pay attention to
this big time. Like I'm very,

1091
01:12:04,260 --> 01:12:07,260
very interested in it. But I
want to know what your thoughts

1092
01:12:07,260 --> 01:12:12,030
were on why this ttsa split
happened. And I'll give you my

1093
01:12:12,030 --> 01:12:13,620
theory afterwards.

1094
01:12:14,220 --> 01:12:18,420
John Greenewald: Sure. When you
say split, you're talking about

1095
01:12:18,450 --> 01:12:21,180
Christopher Bella and Luis
Elizondo breaking low. Yeah.

1096
01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:26,070
Steve justice as well, or are
you just talking about the well,

1097
01:12:26,970 --> 01:12:30,360
all of it? I'd love to hear what
you think. And the only reason I

1098
01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:32,700
ask is because I think there's
different answers. I mean, I

1099
01:12:32,700 --> 01:12:35,250
think someone like Steve
justice. And I'm surprised this

1100
01:12:35,250 --> 01:12:39,240
hasn't come up yet. Which I'm
happy to address. But the

1101
01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:43,680
biggest heat I got of through
the Showtime show that I did, I

1102
01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:46,380
would say the most controversial
thing was I suppose that some of

1103
01:12:46,380 --> 01:12:49,890
these guys came together,
potentially not for the sole

1104
01:12:49,890 --> 01:12:53,010
reason, but potentially with
money as a motivating factor.

1105
01:12:53,460 --> 01:12:56,700
And with Steve, I don't want to
say that that's exactly why he

1106
01:12:56,700 --> 01:13:00,510
did it. But I would say that
with his departure, it's

1107
01:13:00,510 --> 01:13:03,960
indicative that some of these
people that were involved in

1108
01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:08,370
ttsa, were probably looking at
it as a job. And the original

1109
01:13:08,370 --> 01:13:13,290
vision of $50 million of raised
capital that would turn and

1110
01:13:13,290 --> 01:13:17,310
balloon into something bigger
and much more lucrative, was

1111
01:13:17,310 --> 01:13:21,420
probably appealing to at least a
few of them as being a driving

1112
01:13:21,420 --> 01:13:25,050
factor. So, you know, as much as
we all want to think it's all

1113
01:13:25,050 --> 01:13:28,140
about disclosure, and and all
for the greater good. I think

1114
01:13:28,140 --> 01:13:31,890
money is a motivating factor
with Steve Justice's departure,

1115
01:13:32,100 --> 01:13:34,980
I think. Yeah. You know, it's
it's about supporting our

1116
01:13:34,980 --> 01:13:38,490
family. There's nothing wrong
with that. In regards to to

1117
01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:46,380
Elizondo and Christopher Mellon
leaving. I think that for me,

1118
01:13:46,380 --> 01:13:52,530
anyway, I I don't know. I think
that there will be some other

1119
01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:56,610
project that they will be
involved in some other efforts.

1120
01:13:56,640 --> 01:14:00,060
I don't know if that stems from
that they disagreed, ultimately

1121
01:14:00,060 --> 01:14:04,500
with the way ttsa was run. I
don't know I asked. Mr. Elizondo

1122
01:14:04,500 --> 01:14:06,660
when I interviewed him on this
channel. This is back in

1123
01:14:06,660 --> 01:14:11,220
January, now that Remember that?
Yeah, it it just unfolded. So he

1124
01:14:11,220 --> 01:14:14,880
was very apprehensive, which
which is totally fair, but

1125
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:18,570
apprehensive of answering. I
don't know if anybody's asked

1126
01:14:18,570 --> 01:14:22,980
him on the 74 million
interviews. He's done in the

1127
01:14:22,980 --> 01:14:27,900
last few months on that, so why
do I personally think I think

1128
01:14:27,900 --> 01:14:30,840
there's going to be another
venture. If I were to bet money.

1129
01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:36,360
I think the Tucker Carlson
appearance where all of a sudden

1130
01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:41,970
we saw the sky fort, you know,
blasted to everybody. What is

1131
01:14:41,970 --> 01:14:45,360
sky fort, you know, and like,
that was obviously attributed to

1132
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:48,900
Luis Elizondo. And so then I
thought, Okay, this is it, you

1133
01:14:48,900 --> 01:14:51,810
know, that's the other
organization that is what

1134
01:14:51,810 --> 01:14:55,530
they're talking about. But then
that has kind of gone radio

1135
01:14:55,530 --> 01:14:59,820
silent for a little bit. So long
winded way of saying, I think

1136
01:14:59,820 --> 01:15:02,880
it's Another project but what
that project is, I'm not really

1137
01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:03,240
sure.

1138
01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:08,040
Unknown: Did you read the novels
that ttsa put up? I did not.

1139
01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:13,920
Alright. So in it, there's other
excellent reading, by the way,

1140
01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:18,180
there they go through quickly.
Your page turner, they really

1141
01:15:18,180 --> 01:15:23,070
are. But in in the novels, it's
basically like for four or five

1142
01:15:23,070 --> 01:15:26,460
different characters, it's split
up, and you jump back and forth

1143
01:15:26,460 --> 01:15:29,580
and in the chapters between the
point of view of each character,

1144
01:15:30,420 --> 01:15:33,870
and one of them, and it's
basically revolved around the TR

1145
01:15:33,870 --> 01:15:37,920
three d project or the US
government. And this is what I

1146
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:41,670
think I know that this was like
a couple of years ago when this

1147
01:15:41,670 --> 01:15:45,540
came out. But I know that Lou
speaks on like, there's

1148
01:15:45,540 --> 01:15:49,290
absolutely no way that we have
that technology. You know, it's

1149
01:15:49,290 --> 01:15:53,520
not in our it's not in our
toolbox of the US military. And

1150
01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:56,220
I was always wondering if maybe
there was some type of

1151
01:15:56,220 --> 01:15:57,900
disagreement when it came down
to that.

1152
01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:02,700
John Greenewald: It there
absolutely could be I mean, I, I

1153
01:16:02,700 --> 01:16:07,680
speak on nothing but opinion.
But the upper echelon of ttsa,

1154
01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:11,850
for me, from from an outside
point of view, seems drastically

1155
01:16:11,850 --> 01:16:15,690
different. And I'm sure there
were riffs behind closed doors,

1156
01:16:15,690 --> 01:16:20,580
because when you look at the way
Mr. Elizondo spoke in 2018, and

1157
01:16:20,580 --> 01:16:26,520
2019, his tone has shifted a
little bit, but he was very nuts

1158
01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:31,650
and bolts back then he was very,
you know, pretty much just more

1159
01:16:31,650 --> 01:16:35,760
hardcore evidence. You juxtapose
that with Tom DeLonge. And

1160
01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:39,840
you've got a wildly different
point of view, you know, then

1161
01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:44,490
you add in Christopher Mellon,
who is from the position that he

1162
01:16:44,490 --> 01:16:49,230
is not only, you know, up with
public life and his government

1163
01:16:49,230 --> 01:16:52,920
ties, but obviously being part
of the Mellon family. Those are,

1164
01:16:53,190 --> 01:16:56,430
you know, you can't get across
the spectrum, any, any better

1165
01:16:56,460 --> 01:17:00,600
than that. So I would be, and
again, just based on opinion,

1166
01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:03,240
I'd be curious to hear some of
those behind closed doors,

1167
01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:06,960
conversations about what the
best direction for ttsa was,

1168
01:17:07,230 --> 01:17:11,070
because you have the head of the
snake through, you know, however

1169
01:17:11,070 --> 01:17:14,490
many heads that snake has, but
they're being told and way too

1170
01:17:14,490 --> 01:17:18,510
many directions there. So, yeah,
I'm sure that there was a lot

1171
01:17:18,510 --> 01:17:21,270
more going on then than anyone
was privy to.

1172
01:17:22,590 --> 01:17:27,120
Unknown: Two more things
quickly. So I am fascinated with

1173
01:17:27,150 --> 01:17:29,760
all his long form interviews
that he's been doing in the last

1174
01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:33,360
few months over the summer,
Elizondo and speaking. I've

1175
01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:36,480
searched for them every day to
see when any news up, new comes

1176
01:17:36,480 --> 01:17:39,420
up. And I could recall a couple
before me notice that things

1177
01:17:39,420 --> 01:17:43,350
have gotten a lot more quiet in
the last three weeks or so, with

1178
01:17:43,350 --> 01:17:47,340
Elizondo. But what I find really
fascinating is the

1179
01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:51,390
acknowledgement of a lot of old
cases that had been brought

1180
01:17:51,390 --> 01:17:58,200
around the UFO community, for
instance, the the incident over

1181
01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:02,550
Texas, over Bush's Ranch, things
like that. There's a there's an

1182
01:18:02,550 --> 01:18:06,540
incident off the coast of Puerto
Rico. And Lou has spoke on some

1183
01:18:06,540 --> 01:18:10,800
of these numbers, I find it
completely fascinating that,

1184
01:18:11,010 --> 01:18:13,260
that they're looking at that.
And they're acknowledging that

1185
01:18:13,260 --> 01:18:18,510
they looked at that in the past,
and as far as a tip or whatever

1186
01:18:18,510 --> 01:18:21,330
the the acronyms were at the
time when he was looking at his

1187
01:18:21,330 --> 01:18:27,000
things. And but what my big
question to you is, and I'd love

1188
01:18:27,330 --> 01:18:29,430
I mean, I don't think anybody
really knows the answer to this.

1189
01:18:29,460 --> 01:18:32,850
But why now? Why is it all
coming out? Now? Why is the push

1190
01:18:32,850 --> 01:18:36,000
for this coming out? Now? I
mean, it's always been, you

1191
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:39,630
know, from what we've gathered,
and you know, you have your

1192
01:18:39,630 --> 01:18:41,700
fingertips or more information
than anybody else in the

1193
01:18:41,700 --> 01:18:47,340
subject. It's always been walled
off. Why, why is it opening up

1194
01:18:47,340 --> 01:18:50,640
now? What's your opinion on
that? And I'll listen to it off

1195
01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:51,870
the air. Thank you for
everything.

1196
01:18:52,260 --> 01:18:54,030
John Greenewald: And and thank
you for that. I really

1197
01:18:54,030 --> 01:18:58,590
appreciate your phone call and
your question. Why why now is a

1198
01:18:58,620 --> 01:19:02,100
is an amazing question that
really I don't think anybody has

1199
01:19:02,130 --> 01:19:08,190
an answer to. There, there is
obviously this very public push

1200
01:19:08,370 --> 01:19:11,880
for information. A lot of people
were thinking that this was

1201
01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:15,240
disclosure, a lot of people
thought this is, you know, this

1202
01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:19,650
is where we are. This is this is
you know, where we're heading

1203
01:19:19,650 --> 01:19:23,610
where we're going to be in
disclosure. And we're not

1204
01:19:23,940 --> 01:19:27,870
because with that public push
with some people that were

1205
01:19:27,870 --> 01:19:34,290
government insiders, you then
have a we'll call it the the

1206
01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:38,340
private that the the inside the
government side that wants to

1207
01:19:38,340 --> 01:19:42,120
squash it all. And even though
there was for me, the glimmer of

1208
01:19:42,120 --> 01:19:46,560
hope was when the US Navy in
September of 2019 started going

1209
01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:50,430
on the record saying yes, we
believe that these videos are

1210
01:19:50,430 --> 01:19:55,200
unidentified aerial phenomena.
That to me, was a turning point

1211
01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:58,590
in my head that we were going
towards something that may be

1212
01:19:58,590 --> 01:20:03,750
really fascinating. That door
was shut not too long after they

1213
01:20:03,750 --> 01:20:10,230
are trying to squash this. So
this why now question may

1214
01:20:10,230 --> 01:20:13,890
ultimately be that there is
nothing going on that we're

1215
01:20:13,890 --> 01:20:18,150
appeasing the public push for
information, saying, Hey, we

1216
01:20:18,150 --> 01:20:21,810
have a task force now, hey,
we're looking into it, and so on

1217
01:20:21,810 --> 01:20:24,450
and so forth. So the public's
like, Really? That's great, give

1218
01:20:24,450 --> 01:20:27,810
us that information. And then
the report comes out absolutely

1219
01:20:27,810 --> 01:20:32,070
nothing. And it burst that
bubble. Was that the objective?

1220
01:20:32,310 --> 01:20:36,840
Was it to get the momentum by
the push of the United States

1221
01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:41,340
government, saying, let's just
and I'll bring up the leaks

1222
01:20:41,340 --> 01:20:44,340
again, why were they allowed to
happen? And why were their

1223
01:20:44,850 --> 01:20:49,440
comments on them so quickly by
the Pentagon? And so was that

1224
01:20:49,440 --> 01:20:57,300
part of a bigger plot, Operation
plot, whatever it might be? And

1225
01:20:57,300 --> 01:21:02,370
so was it why now is because
they're trying to destroy this

1226
01:21:02,370 --> 01:21:08,730
topic. And that's still kind of
unwritten. But I think it's a

1227
01:21:08,730 --> 01:21:11,670
possibility. And I know, I'll
get hate mail for saying that.

1228
01:21:11,970 --> 01:21:15,450
But you have to look at what's
going on, you look at the leaks

1229
01:21:15,450 --> 01:21:18,570
that have come out that were not
extraordinary. You then look at

1230
01:21:18,570 --> 01:21:21,960
how the skeptics can debunk it,
you look at the internal war

1231
01:21:22,230 --> 01:21:26,160
between the UFO community, and
as a couple callers, yourself

1232
01:21:26,160 --> 01:21:30,540
included, who we just hung up
with, that you've noticed that

1233
01:21:30,540 --> 01:21:33,900
everything is just kind of dried
up, is that the public interest

1234
01:21:33,900 --> 01:21:37,380
going away? Because absolutely
nothing happened with this

1235
01:21:37,380 --> 01:21:41,460
report. And it was this gigantic
hype. We're going to get a

1236
01:21:41,460 --> 01:21:43,740
report, we're going to get this
we're going to get that and

1237
01:21:43,740 --> 01:21:47,700
absolutely nothing happened.
Now, I still find it

1238
01:21:47,700 --> 01:21:50,910
interesting. And I still think
that there's a lot more to do. I

1239
01:21:50,910 --> 01:21:54,000
still think that there's a lot
more to discover. And I still

1240
01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:57,630
think that there's a lot more
that we all can collectively do.

1241
01:21:57,990 --> 01:22:03,120
But if this was part of
something else, that's unwritten

1242
01:22:03,150 --> 01:22:06,780
for me, and I'm not really sure
so that why now question. We

1243
01:22:06,780 --> 01:22:11,160
can't answer it. But to me,
there are too many strange red

1244
01:22:11,160 --> 01:22:17,040
flags that remain unanswered
about this entire saga that I

1245
01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:22,200
think we still need to push on.
And sadly, I think there's a

1246
01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:25,830
small portion of the general
public that doesn't care

1247
01:22:25,830 --> 01:22:29,670
anymore. And that's if I've
learned anything in 25 years of

1248
01:22:29,670 --> 01:22:33,420
research and government cover
ups, it is the fact that time is

1249
01:22:33,420 --> 01:22:37,710
the best weapon that the United
States government can wield. And

1250
01:22:37,710 --> 01:22:41,640
if you wait long enough, people
will absolutely lose interest.

1251
01:22:41,820 --> 01:22:44,760
So you have a core that doesn't
care to answer those questions,

1252
01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:47,880
because they believe all this
anyway. But the general public

1253
01:22:47,910 --> 01:22:51,150
has now been sloughed off for a
couple years, they're on to

1254
01:22:51,150 --> 01:22:53,670
something else they're fighting
whether or not mass should be in

1255
01:22:53,670 --> 01:22:58,470
schools, or we should go to the
supermarket and mask. People. I

1256
01:22:58,470 --> 01:23:02,220
think collectively, a lot of
people have moved on, because

1257
01:23:02,220 --> 01:23:07,500
the bubble was burst. So I'll
stop ranting on that. But it's

1258
01:23:07,500 --> 01:23:10,440
it's really kind of the long
winded way of saying we don't

1259
01:23:10,440 --> 01:23:15,510
know, if there are underlying
objectives here. We want to

1260
01:23:15,510 --> 01:23:18,630
think it's all about truth and
disclosure and so on and so

1261
01:23:18,630 --> 01:23:22,200
forth. But is there something
else going on? We can't we

1262
01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:25,590
can't. We can't say no at this
point.

1263
01:23:26,970 --> 01:23:29,640
Couple super chats. I'm going to
get caught up and I'll get back

1264
01:23:29,640 --> 01:23:35,010
to the phone. dt. Thank you
again for all of your support.

1265
01:23:35,010 --> 01:23:38,190
Tonight. Senator Reid's letter
on Lou Elizondo said a tip was

1266
01:23:38,190 --> 01:23:40,740
an unclassified program. How
does that square with Mr.

1267
01:23:40,740 --> 01:23:43,890
Elizondo his pension for punting
questions on grounds of

1268
01:23:43,890 --> 01:23:48,120
confidentiality? Absolutely
fantastic question and something

1269
01:23:48,450 --> 01:23:52,800
that I have posed for quite some
time. In a New York magazine

1270
01:23:52,830 --> 01:23:57,780
interview by Senator Harry Reid.
I forget off the top of my head

1271
01:23:57,780 --> 01:24:02,610
what year this was. But this was
done by Senator Reid. And he

1272
01:24:02,610 --> 01:24:08,070
said 80% of a tip was
unclassified. And he was saying

1273
01:24:08,070 --> 01:24:10,650
he couldn't believe that
journalists and mainstream media

1274
01:24:10,650 --> 01:24:14,130
wasn't looking at it. No one has
ever been able to answer the

1275
01:24:14,130 --> 01:24:19,230
question for me of what is this
80%? Is he talking about the 38?

1276
01:24:19,230 --> 01:24:25,290
dirt reports? Maybe, and that's
fine. But there's no UFO data in

1277
01:24:25,290 --> 01:24:28,320
there. Arguably, some people
want to say Kate Greene's report

1278
01:24:28,320 --> 01:24:31,950
was, you know, UAP effects on
the human body, whatever. But

1279
01:24:32,280 --> 01:24:36,180
regardless, it just didn't
scream as a UFO program to me

1280
01:24:36,180 --> 01:24:39,660
through the OS app days. So what
is it that Harry Reid was

1281
01:24:39,660 --> 01:24:43,080
referring to? We don't know. All
of those reports were for

1282
01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:46,560
official use only with the
exception of I believe two off

1283
01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:49,140
the top of my head. And those
were classified just simply

1284
01:24:49,140 --> 01:24:52,140
because they were using
technical data that obviously

1285
01:24:52,140 --> 01:24:56,070
would encroach on a classified
system. Why was everything else

1286
01:24:56,070 --> 01:24:59,460
on classified for official use
only. So for those who aren't

1287
01:24:59,460 --> 01:25:05,010
aware for Use only or fo is not
a classification. It's just an

1288
01:25:05,010 --> 01:25:09,960
internal designation, that the
document then will still require

1289
01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:14,400
review for release, but is not
classified in nature. So nothing

1290
01:25:14,400 --> 01:25:19,170
was except the again, the two
that were. I think they were

1291
01:25:19,170 --> 01:25:23,010
dealing with lasers. But I,
again, it's been a while since I

1292
01:25:23,010 --> 01:25:26,880
looked at it, regardless,
majority was not. So what is

1293
01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:30,750
Harry Reid referring to? Going
back to this question? There are

1294
01:25:30,750 --> 01:25:34,170
a lot of fall backs on it's
classified, or my NDA or it's

1295
01:25:34,170 --> 01:25:37,770
classified as my NDA. And yeah,
that's frustrating. I appreciate

1296
01:25:37,770 --> 01:25:42,150
and can understand those
security clearances. But it

1297
01:25:42,150 --> 01:25:45,420
seems like if harry reid to say,
Hey, 80% of this program, and

1298
01:25:45,420 --> 01:25:47,640
all the information that went
along with it is all on

1299
01:25:47,640 --> 01:25:51,480
classified. Mainstream media is
not looking at it. Fine. Keep

1300
01:25:51,480 --> 01:25:55,680
the 20% hide behind it. I don't
care. Give me the 80% and let's

1301
01:25:55,680 --> 01:25:59,610
play ball. And yet no one has
been able to do that. For those

1302
01:25:59,610 --> 01:26:03,480
curious, I have reached out to
Harry Reid numerous times. No

1303
01:26:03,480 --> 01:26:09,060
response. So what is the
information? Your guess is as

1304
01:26:09,060 --> 01:26:11,520
good as mine, let me get a
little bit more caught up on

1305
01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:15,990
these super chats and I screw
up, I probably screwed up. I

1306
01:26:15,990 --> 01:26:20,250
hope I'm not missing anybody. So
much fun to see the hundreds and

1307
01:26:20,250 --> 01:26:25,500
hundreds of you throughout
screaming through this chat. So

1308
01:26:25,800 --> 01:26:30,330
it's a little tough for me to
pick out the comments. The Super

1309
01:26:30,330 --> 01:26:32,940
chats are the ones that are
really highlighted. So that's

1310
01:26:32,940 --> 01:26:36,300
why I'm able to to pick those
out. I apologize if I missing

1311
01:26:36,300 --> 01:26:40,590
anything because this thing kind
of keeps refreshing on its own a

1312
01:26:40,590 --> 01:26:44,520
little bit. So apologize, john
music. JOHN, when do you think

1313
01:26:44,520 --> 01:26:46,770
Mr. Elizondo is big news drop
will happen. We can't lose

1314
01:26:46,770 --> 01:26:49,800
momentum. And most people know
nothing about UFOs. We need big

1315
01:26:49,800 --> 01:26:54,420
stuff now. I'm not sure what Mr.
Elizondo said he was going to be

1316
01:26:54,420 --> 01:26:59,610
dropping and what that news was,
I will talk in generality, that

1317
01:26:59,610 --> 01:27:03,180
there are always people saying
something big is coming. If

1318
01:27:03,180 --> 01:27:08,010
that's Mr. Elizondo. I hope not
it but if he said that something

1319
01:27:08,010 --> 01:27:11,160
big is coming, I would hope that
he would timestamp it if he

1320
01:27:11,160 --> 01:27:15,750
didn't, I have no idea. The
thing with me, even though I

1321
01:27:15,750 --> 01:27:19,500
find value in what people say,
and I look at it, and I digest

1322
01:27:19,500 --> 01:27:23,070
it, if it doesn't come through,
or there's no timestamp, what

1323
01:27:23,070 --> 01:27:26,280
does it mean? I mean, there's so
many people that say, big things

1324
01:27:26,280 --> 01:27:31,200
are coming. Just wait, you know,
it teases are fine. I tease

1325
01:27:31,200 --> 01:27:35,640
myself that it's, it's good to
get some kind of interest, the

1326
01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:38,760
longest I've ever teased
something was on a Friday for a

1327
01:27:38,760 --> 01:27:42,630
Monday story. And I cringed when
I did it. But there was actually

1328
01:27:42,630 --> 01:27:46,770
a reason why I did it. And
generally, when I tease there's

1329
01:27:46,770 --> 01:27:51,270
usually a reason why I do work
with a lot of journalists

1330
01:27:51,660 --> 01:27:56,010
worldwide. And so sometimes, if
they see me maybe drop a hint

1331
01:27:56,010 --> 01:27:59,910
that I'm seeing a drop a hint
that I'm publishing a story on

1332
01:27:59,910 --> 01:28:02,910
something, they'll write me, and
then I can absolutely give them

1333
01:28:02,940 --> 01:28:07,950
a heads up. So it's a little bit
to get that momentum because I

1334
01:28:07,950 --> 01:28:11,490
don't have the reach that a lot
of the media organizations that

1335
01:28:11,490 --> 01:28:15,570
profile My Documents do. And so
that's why sometimes I do that.

1336
01:28:15,720 --> 01:28:19,350
But there's always a reason.
What I get tired of are those

1337
01:28:19,350 --> 01:28:23,070
teases that are just open ended,
like something bigs coming. You

1338
01:28:23,070 --> 01:28:24,030
know, just wait.

1339
01:28:25,710 --> 01:28:30,180
I don't know when but some big,
it drives me nuts, because there

1340
01:28:30,180 --> 01:28:33,750
are so many that you get excited
about. And this is part of

1341
01:28:33,750 --> 01:28:37,440
marketing for some people, and
it drives me nuts. They'll say,

1342
01:28:37,440 --> 01:28:41,220
Oh, I got this big interview
with someone. It's coming soon.

1343
01:28:41,370 --> 01:28:43,890
It's coming to it like six
months later, you know, maybe

1344
01:28:43,890 --> 01:28:48,420
something will get published, or
those types of teases it I think

1345
01:28:48,420 --> 01:28:52,440
it drives the community nuts. So
going back to this, when will it

1346
01:28:52,440 --> 01:28:57,570
happen? It's anybody's guess. I
really I don't do I don't do

1347
01:28:57,570 --> 01:29:02,430
those long, open ended teases.
Well, I think if somebody says,

1348
01:29:02,430 --> 01:29:08,100
Hey, I'll use Jeremy Corbyn as a
prime example. When he teases he

1349
01:29:08,100 --> 01:29:10,890
at least delivers, like, not
everybody's gonna like what he

1350
01:29:10,890 --> 01:29:15,150
publishes. But when he says high
noon, the next day, I set my

1351
01:29:15,150 --> 01:29:18,510
alarm, because I know that it's
kind of be there. You know, so

1352
01:29:18,510 --> 01:29:22,860
kudos to him that we may not
always agree. But when he says

1353
01:29:22,860 --> 01:29:25,380
at high noon tomorrow, I'm gonna
tease or I'm gonna drop

1354
01:29:25,380 --> 01:29:28,800
something. That's awesome. I got
no problem with that. You know,

1355
01:29:28,830 --> 01:29:32,610
I mean, I wish that everything,
of course, was published all at

1356
01:29:32,610 --> 01:29:37,260
the same time and dumped on the
internet, but I get it. So what

1357
01:29:37,260 --> 01:29:43,770
this big news is, is anybody's
guess. I know that this call has

1358
01:29:43,770 --> 01:29:49,650
been on hold for a while and I
apologize. Who's this? This is

1359
01:29:49,650 --> 01:29:53,940
Brent. Hi, Brett. How are you?
I'm good. How are you doing? I'm

1360
01:29:53,940 --> 01:29:58,230
good. Thank you. Tell everybody
you're Britain Wonderland. You

1361
01:29:58,230 --> 01:30:03,150
were just you were just That's
right. So you were just on

1362
01:30:03,420 --> 01:30:08,370
unidentified celebrity review.
On Twitter under what's your

1363
01:30:08,370 --> 01:30:08,880
handle?

1364
01:30:09,690 --> 01:30:13,020
Unknown: It's at inference. But
the first he is a three.

1365
01:30:13,770 --> 01:30:16,200
John Greenewald: First, he is a
three. Awesome. Well, thanks for

1366
01:30:16,200 --> 01:30:17,310
calling. What can I do for you?

1367
01:30:18,030 --> 01:30:20,970
Unknown: Okay, john, I wanted to
talk about the metamaterials,

1368
01:30:21,000 --> 01:30:24,960
and just speak about something
that has bothered me for quite

1369
01:30:24,960 --> 01:30:28,770
some time about the Korea issue.
Actually, I think I might have

1370
01:30:28,770 --> 01:30:31,110
touched base on this with you
before, but Forgive me, I have

1371
01:30:31,110 --> 01:30:37,980
like really bad ADHD? No
worries. So basically, my thing

1372
01:30:37,980 --> 01:30:43,470
is, how coolum ttsa. And I know
that like, like, in July stuff,

1373
01:30:43,470 --> 01:30:48,000
my team ttsa acquired these
alleged special metals that were

1374
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:51,960
originally owned by Linda
health. And if I remember

1375
01:30:51,960 --> 01:30:54,480
correctly, and forgive me, I
might be wrong about this,

1376
01:30:54,570 --> 01:30:56,940
because it is just coming off
the top of my head. But I

1377
01:30:56,940 --> 01:31:00,420
believe the Carnegie Science
Department of technical

1378
01:31:00,630 --> 01:31:04,530
magnetism and other educational
facilities and entities had

1379
01:31:04,530 --> 01:31:08,850
already studied its material
second 2012, I believe, right.

1380
01:31:08,880 --> 01:31:14,130
So if I remember correctly, how
wrote a letter stating that they

1381
01:31:14,130 --> 01:31:17,160
basically weren't able to prove
anything unique about the metal.

1382
01:31:17,520 --> 01:31:22,200
So when I found out that ttsa
was going to conduct research on

1383
01:31:22,200 --> 01:31:26,520
it, I was really confused,
right? Because I'm a believer.

1384
01:31:27,240 --> 01:31:29,850
Okay, so when I asked other
people about this, they told me,

1385
01:31:30,090 --> 01:31:32,700
it was because they didn't
necessarily have the tools.

1386
01:31:32,730 --> 01:31:34,530
Well, they've been like
Carnegie, for example, they

1387
01:31:34,530 --> 01:31:38,280
didn't have the proper tools to
research the metal. But, you

1388
01:31:38,280 --> 01:31:40,680
know, I guess it had something
to do with like the isotope

1389
01:31:40,920 --> 01:31:44,430
ratio data that was mentioned
earlier. But wouldn't Carnegie

1390
01:31:44,490 --> 01:31:48,210
and other Institute's already
have like an isotope analysis.

1391
01:31:48,810 --> 01:31:52,140
And another thing, too, is just
like knowing that first tech is

1392
01:31:52,140 --> 01:31:55,770
conducting the research on the
materials that were already

1393
01:31:55,770 --> 01:31:59,280
claimed by how themselves to be
nothing special, I just find

1394
01:31:59,280 --> 01:32:04,560
that really applied in a massive
conflict of interest. So right

1395
01:32:04,560 --> 01:32:07,680
being said, I just want to get
your opinion on that and

1396
01:32:07,680 --> 01:32:12,210
insight, and maybe clear me up
or maybe anyone else that may

1397
01:32:12,450 --> 01:32:15,360
have like a misunderstanding
about like, what exactly is

1398
01:32:15,360 --> 01:32:16,200
going on here?

1399
01:32:16,950 --> 01:32:19,620
John Greenewald: Well, what
exactly is going on here is

1400
01:32:19,620 --> 01:32:22,920
anybody's guess. Yes, I did an
interview with Linda Howe on

1401
01:32:22,920 --> 01:32:26,340
this channel. For those who
aren't aware. You can, you can

1402
01:32:26,340 --> 01:32:31,410
and she goes into great detail
about it. I'll refer to your

1403
01:32:31,440 --> 01:32:34,920
judgment on the Carnegie full
title. But that that sounds

1404
01:32:34,920 --> 01:32:38,340
right, the way that you said it.
And that Yes. How put off had

1405
01:32:38,340 --> 01:32:41,280
said that there was essentially
an I'm paraphrasing, but

1406
01:32:41,520 --> 01:32:46,590
essentially that there was
nothing to those pieces. So it's

1407
01:32:46,590 --> 01:32:49,980
kind of it's it's been a while
since I interviewed Linda on it.

1408
01:32:49,980 --> 01:32:52,770
And I'm fairly confident that
that came up, and I don't want

1409
01:32:52,770 --> 01:32:56,400
to try and reach back in my
brain and give you the answer

1410
01:32:56,400 --> 01:33:00,360
she did. Because I'll be honest,
and say I don't remember. But I

1411
01:33:00,390 --> 01:33:03,900
but I will say just from a
broader sense, there absolutely

1412
01:33:03,900 --> 01:33:08,400
is something strange with that
whole situation. And that, you

1413
01:33:08,400 --> 01:33:11,100
know, this ties into arts parts,
and the fact that these were

1414
01:33:11,100 --> 01:33:14,610
kind of long, I don't want to
say debunked, but it was kind of

1415
01:33:14,610 --> 01:33:17,160
long rumor that there was just
nothing there. And it wasn't

1416
01:33:17,160 --> 01:33:21,870
just Dr. Hal put off letter. But
it was other stuff as well. And

1417
01:33:21,870 --> 01:33:26,340
so, you know, it's like these,
these stories are seemingly

1418
01:33:26,340 --> 01:33:32,460
recycled. Over the years, we've
seen it with mj 12. And even

1419
01:33:32,460 --> 01:33:35,820
though the late Stanton
Friedman, who is a dear personal

1420
01:33:35,820 --> 01:33:39,570
friend of mine for over 20
years, really did a lot of

1421
01:33:39,570 --> 01:33:41,940
research on the original
documents, there's a lot of

1422
01:33:41,940 --> 01:33:45,780
stuff about mj 12. That's that's
just a downright hoax. It just

1423
01:33:45,780 --> 01:33:49,860
is like you just can't get away
from it. And those are the

1424
01:33:49,860 --> 01:33:53,700
documents that I'm referring to.
And yet those have seemingly in

1425
01:33:53,700 --> 01:33:57,390
the last couple of years
resurfaced. There's one that's

1426
01:33:57,390 --> 01:34:00,090
tied to Dr. Hal put off,
although I couldn't get him to

1427
01:34:00,090 --> 01:34:03,420
go on the record about it about
a crash retrieval. And this is

1428
01:34:03,420 --> 01:34:07,440
the National Intelligence
estimate document that, to me,

1429
01:34:07,470 --> 01:34:13,320
is a screaming hoax. I also did
a video dissecting that that

1430
01:34:13,320 --> 01:34:17,430
document as well, my entire
point with that is going back to

1431
01:34:17,430 --> 01:34:21,090
the root of your question, what
is going on? Why is it that a

1432
01:34:21,090 --> 01:34:25,290
lot of these stories just
seemingly get recycled? And and

1433
01:34:25,320 --> 01:34:28,230
why is it that a lot of the same
names keep coming up? That's a

1434
01:34:28,230 --> 01:34:31,020
different show, but it just
seems like they just come up

1435
01:34:31,020 --> 01:34:35,160
again, and regardless of, let's
say, doctor put off saying, hey,

1436
01:34:35,160 --> 01:34:37,800
there's nothing extraordinary
about this, then all of a sudden

1437
01:34:37,800 --> 01:34:42,900
he pays, or his company pays.
What is it? 20 20,000 35,000

1438
01:34:42,900 --> 01:34:43,740
whatever it was,

1439
01:34:43,980 --> 01:34:46,470
Unknown: I think it was like,
Yeah, I think it's that much.

1440
01:34:46,560 --> 01:34:49,830
John Greenewald: Yeah, it was I
mean, it was 10s of 1000s. I

1441
01:34:49,830 --> 01:34:53,790
think Vice News had reported
that 750,000 No, I don't think

1442
01:34:53,790 --> 01:34:57,210
it was that much. No, no, I
think it was if memory serves

1443
01:34:57,210 --> 01:35:00,000
was only like, well, not only
but I think it was either 20 or

1444
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:03,330
35,000 But regardless, there was

1445
01:35:04,140 --> 01:35:06,330
Unknown: no it was 35 You're
right, you're right. Yeah.

1446
01:35:06,330 --> 01:35:10,140
John Greenewald: So So what?
What's up with that? You know,

1447
01:35:10,140 --> 01:35:14,070
like, if there was nothing
extraordinary about it, then why

1448
01:35:14,100 --> 01:35:17,370
allow the company that you co
founded to then acquire the

1449
01:35:17,370 --> 01:35:20,940
piece? Like, you know, is it
optics? Is it something that you

1450
01:35:20,940 --> 01:35:25,440
can, you know, put on on to a
slide and say, This is what

1451
01:35:25,440 --> 01:35:30,060
we're doing invest in our
company. You know, I go back to

1452
01:35:30,060 --> 01:35:33,510
that Showtime controversy that I
got a lot of flack for, but I'm

1453
01:35:33,510 --> 01:35:37,470
not a lot but but those that
hate me, they come after me for

1454
01:35:37,470 --> 01:35:39,630
if I sneeze the wrong way,
they'll come after me for it.

1455
01:35:40,290 --> 01:35:44,400
But but the but about the, you
know, the the money thing? Why

1456
01:35:44,400 --> 01:35:47,970
is it that a corporation like
ttsa, their press releases, if

1457
01:35:47,970 --> 01:35:52,320
you look at them, they're all
dated when the when the lines

1458
01:35:52,320 --> 01:35:54,690
were open to invest in the
company, once they closed, the

1459
01:35:54,690 --> 01:35:57,570
press releases stopped. Now,
what does that show you while

1460
01:35:57,570 --> 01:36:00,750
they're out to market themselves
to make money? You know, like,

1461
01:36:01,290 --> 01:36:05,250
yeah, so it's not a bad thing to
say. So why would they want to

1462
01:36:05,250 --> 01:36:07,830
spend money like that on
something that they didn't find

1463
01:36:07,830 --> 01:36:10,320
extraordinary? I don't know. I

1464
01:36:10,320 --> 01:36:13,110
Unknown: have no idea. Like, I
don't understand it. Like, it

1465
01:36:13,110 --> 01:36:14,970
just seems counterintuitive.

1466
01:36:15,509 --> 01:36:18,869
John Greenewald: It does. And
I've never, I've never seen

1467
01:36:18,869 --> 01:36:23,699
anybody adequately answer that
or address it. I'm not really

1468
01:36:24,569 --> 01:36:27,029
not really sure. I wish I had a
better answer for you. But

1469
01:36:27,029 --> 01:36:30,149
there's, there's a lot of things
like that, that are just out of

1470
01:36:30,239 --> 01:36:35,339
out of the ordinary. And, and
again, I've primarily left ttsa

1471
01:36:35,339 --> 01:36:38,909
as a corporation, alone, in the
sense that I just don't feel

1472
01:36:38,909 --> 01:36:42,539
like I want to critique them. I
only focused on the parts that

1473
01:36:42,539 --> 01:36:45,599
dealt with the government. But
that kind of stuff when I know

1474
01:36:45,629 --> 01:36:50,909
personally, the people that are
signing these MBAs and signing,

1475
01:36:51,209 --> 01:36:56,279
you know, the their work over to
ttsa. What has happened, you

1476
01:36:56,279 --> 01:36:59,579
know, since then, and I and as a
television producer, who's

1477
01:36:59,579 --> 01:37:03,209
profiled some of that material
that is now in the hands of

1478
01:37:03,209 --> 01:37:06,959
ttsa, there is a personal
connection that I have to that.

1479
01:37:07,259 --> 01:37:09,689
And that's why I kind of get
passionate going, Hey, what's

1480
01:37:09,689 --> 01:37:12,719
going on, you know, you're
taking this material, you've

1481
01:37:12,719 --> 01:37:15,569
acquired this material, you've
either purchased it, you've

1482
01:37:15,569 --> 01:37:18,749
bought it, or you are borrowing
it, or whatever the story is, I

1483
01:37:18,749 --> 01:37:21,599
mean, it seems like everybody
has different contracts. But

1484
01:37:21,599 --> 01:37:25,439
regardless, you've now acquired
that the army internally is

1485
01:37:25,439 --> 01:37:27,449
saying, Yeah, well, they just
want to go out and get more

1486
01:37:27,449 --> 01:37:33,689
stuff. Okay, like why? Like, if
you got the key to the

1487
01:37:33,689 --> 01:37:37,229
universal, say, to 12th time,
just go in there and unlock the

1488
01:37:37,229 --> 01:37:39,269
door, you know, but they just
don't do it. So

1489
01:37:39,900 --> 01:37:43,050
Unknown: I'm not sure it's just
so confusing. And I sit here and

1490
01:37:43,140 --> 01:37:47,190
I'm telling you, john, like
this, it eats at me like this is

1491
01:37:47,190 --> 01:37:51,180
the question that I just cannot
make sense of whatsoever. And

1492
01:37:51,180 --> 01:37:55,290
I'm deeply bothered by this.
Like, I don't know, like, it's

1493
01:37:55,290 --> 01:37:58,140
just like a little chicken
scratch. Like, why what is the

1494
01:37:58,140 --> 01:37:58,710
task? And?

1495
01:37:59,310 --> 01:38:02,220
John Greenewald: Yeah, and and
to be honest with you? I don't

1496
01:38:02,220 --> 01:38:07,710
know. I really don't I mean, if,
if t TSA has a plan, what I

1497
01:38:07,710 --> 01:38:11,070
wanted to do with this story,
I'm not sure Brett, how long

1498
01:38:11,070 --> 01:38:13,560
you've been listening. And you
won't offend me if you didn't

1499
01:38:13,560 --> 01:38:17,370
see it. But towards the earlier
part of this, I showed what t

1500
01:38:17,370 --> 01:38:20,760
TSA said, and I wanted to give
them the opportunity to say

1501
01:38:20,760 --> 01:38:24,390
yeah, no, we couldn't because of
COVID. But But now we're ramping

1502
01:38:24,390 --> 01:38:28,110
up and we're we're slated to be
in there in August or or

1503
01:38:28,110 --> 01:38:32,010
September, October, November,
something and for them to just

1504
01:38:32,010 --> 01:38:35,400
fall back and go you know, check
our SEC filings you go do what

1505
01:38:35,400 --> 01:38:41,190
you want. It doesn't help and
and it's not just because I want

1506
01:38:41,190 --> 01:38:44,160
to know because john Greenwald
the meanie wants to know, it's

1507
01:38:44,190 --> 01:38:48,000
number one, as cheesy as it
sounds. I'm a taxpayer. So we

1508
01:38:48,000 --> 01:38:51,660
all in America are funding this.
So there should be a level of

1509
01:38:51,660 --> 01:38:54,630
transparency there. But then on
the other end, there's a lot of

1510
01:38:54,630 --> 01:38:57,930
people who invested in that
company. And those investors

1511
01:38:57,930 --> 01:39:02,550
have a right to know. And COVID
I'll be it as a hardship. It

1512
01:39:02,550 --> 01:39:05,010
can't be the fallback for
everything. You know, I mean,

1513
01:39:05,370 --> 01:39:08,970
they're in production on their
movies and films and stuff. So

1514
01:39:09,390 --> 01:39:13,350
if if it's the army great, say
it. If not, then what's the

1515
01:39:13,350 --> 01:39:14,610
holdup? And I don't know.

1516
01:39:15,450 --> 01:39:18,330
Unknown: Right? Well, you know,
I just wanted to get your

1517
01:39:18,330 --> 01:39:21,300
opinions on that. Because I know
that's a hard question in a lot

1518
01:39:21,300 --> 01:39:24,030
of people just aren't able to
answer it.

1519
01:39:24,060 --> 01:39:26,580
John Greenewald: Yeah, no, no, a
lot of people aren't so but I

1520
01:39:26,580 --> 01:39:28,530
appreciate the question. And
thanks for the call.

1521
01:39:29,190 --> 01:39:31,890
Unknown: Hi, thanks for
answering anytime.

1522
01:39:31,919 --> 01:39:33,389
John Greenewald: We'll call in
anytime. It's good to hear you

1523
01:39:33,389 --> 01:39:39,269
voice. Hey, thank you, john. You
too. Bye bye. All right, let me

1524
01:39:39,269 --> 01:39:41,609
go ahead and hit this Super Chat
john, thank you so much. Sorry,

1525
01:39:41,609 --> 01:39:43,799
took me a couple minutes list of
people saying the public should

1526
01:39:43,799 --> 01:39:47,159
not know the real truth about
nonhumans Obama, Leslie Kane

1527
01:39:47,159 --> 01:39:51,629
forever, etc. thoughts. We
deserve truth regardless. Okay,

1528
01:39:51,629 --> 01:39:57,059
so I understand the root of your
question. I just don't know off

1529
01:39:57,059 --> 01:40:01,559
the top of my head that they
said we should not know the real

1530
01:40:01,559 --> 01:40:07,679
truth about nonhumans. So I
can't, I can't speak to that

1531
01:40:07,679 --> 01:40:11,699
directly about Obama and Leslie
Kane and favor saying, saying

1532
01:40:11,699 --> 01:40:14,729
that so if so forgive me, I'm
not real sure about the exact

1533
01:40:15,089 --> 01:40:21,329
quotes. What I will say about
this, and it's a it's a question

1534
01:40:21,329 --> 01:40:24,989
that I have loved to answer and
address and could bore you all

1535
01:40:24,989 --> 01:40:31,109
to death for years about it is
it's not? Should we know which

1536
01:40:31,109 --> 01:40:37,559
the answer is yes. It's, are we
able to handle it as a society?

1537
01:40:38,099 --> 01:40:40,559
And I would truly believe that
the majority of the people that

1538
01:40:40,559 --> 01:40:43,439
are watching this program
absolutely could handle the real

1539
01:40:43,439 --> 01:40:47,519
truth about nonhumans. Should
there be a truth about nonhumans

1540
01:40:47,519 --> 01:40:55,049
to reveal? I believe that. So
outside of this show, outside of

1541
01:40:55,049 --> 01:40:58,649
this audience outside of that,
the general populace that's

1542
01:40:58,649 --> 01:41:03,929
walking around, are they ready?
And the answer, in my opinion,

1543
01:41:04,499 --> 01:41:09,089
only my opinion is no. And when
we look at the general

1544
01:41:09,089 --> 01:41:13,109
population, and I've said it
before, and I'll say it again,

1545
01:41:13,109 --> 01:41:16,979
on the show, it doesn't matter
how you think about masks or

1546
01:41:16,979 --> 01:41:19,979
whether or not you should or
shouldn't wear them, remove

1547
01:41:19,979 --> 01:41:22,769
yourself from being in the
debate for a second and just

1548
01:41:22,769 --> 01:41:27,719
look at the debate. The fact
that that that has turned in to

1549
01:41:27,719 --> 01:41:34,709
this massive civil war between
people in America and you look

1550
01:41:34,709 --> 01:41:38,579
about masks in the classroom and
how that has turned into a civil

1551
01:41:38,579 --> 01:41:42,629
war. And you look at how the
states have now some are

1552
01:41:42,629 --> 01:41:46,109
threatening and was a Florida
that's doing that saying, if you

1553
01:41:46,109 --> 01:41:52,139
mandate this, then your pay is
held or whatever. That's a civil

1554
01:41:52,139 --> 01:41:55,469
war, you're, you're tearing this
country apart. And again, I'm

1555
01:41:55,469 --> 01:41:58,259
not trying to make a political
remove yourself from the debate

1556
01:41:58,289 --> 01:42:02,219
doesn't matter what side of the
of the debate you stand on. Just

1557
01:42:02,219 --> 01:42:05,519
look at the debate. And that's
my point. If we are fighting

1558
01:42:05,519 --> 01:42:08,519
about that, do you think the
general population could handle

1559
01:42:09,089 --> 01:42:12,689
the fact that nonhumans are here
or visiting us or out there? And

1560
01:42:12,689 --> 01:42:16,559
my opinion is no, we are such a
young civilization,

1561
01:42:16,889 --> 01:42:21,239
intellectually, technologically,
we just don't get it. We just

1562
01:42:21,239 --> 01:42:25,469
don't like there's a lot of
stupidity out there. There's a

1563
01:42:25,469 --> 01:42:28,529
lot of ignorance out there. And
so I think that when it comes to

1564
01:42:28,529 --> 01:42:33,809
such an amazing topic like this,
and and the reality behind it,

1565
01:42:34,109 --> 01:42:39,809
could we as a whole as a whole
handle it the answer's no. So in

1566
01:42:39,809 --> 01:42:43,229
regards to the the the exact
quotes not to repeat myself, I'm

1567
01:42:43,229 --> 01:42:46,229
curious if they've said that.
So, you know, please feel feel

1568
01:42:46,229 --> 01:42:50,549
free to send that to me. Because
I'd love to see the exact

1569
01:42:50,549 --> 01:42:56,639
quotes. All over Oliver dro
Thank you. For this a podcast I

1570
01:42:56,639 --> 01:43:00,209
heard made me somber and
experienced a while ago, query

1571
01:43:00,239 --> 01:43:03,689
ETS about why they interfere
answer long ago in this planet,

1572
01:43:03,689 --> 01:43:07,139
we got to nuclear and we
destroyed ourselves never again.

1573
01:43:08,459 --> 01:43:12,719
The problem that I have with
with the nuclear argument, just

1574
01:43:12,719 --> 01:43:18,299
to quickly address that is that
it's very common for humans to

1575
01:43:18,299 --> 01:43:22,589
want a higher being should want
to exist to come and nurture us.

1576
01:43:22,949 --> 01:43:25,649
You know, we growing up, we want
that from our mom and dad or

1577
01:43:25,649 --> 01:43:29,519
grandma or grandpa or or soccer
coach or whomever. And you want

1578
01:43:29,519 --> 01:43:33,059
that because you're you're
you're infantile, right? You're

1579
01:43:33,059 --> 01:43:36,479
you're not, you're not as
experienced, you're not as as,

1580
01:43:36,749 --> 01:43:37,319
as

1581
01:43:39,150 --> 01:43:43,260
you're not as powerful as those
other, you know, beings. There's

1582
01:43:43,260 --> 01:43:46,170
other humans that you look up
to. And I think that it's very

1583
01:43:46,170 --> 01:43:49,740
natural for us to want that.
Because that's what we've grown

1584
01:43:49,740 --> 01:43:54,420
up with, when it comes to the
grander cosmic scale. And we

1585
01:43:54,420 --> 01:43:58,170
talk about humanity. Now being
that infant, I believe that

1586
01:43:58,170 --> 01:44:01,710
there is a portion of our
society that wants to think that

1587
01:44:01,710 --> 01:44:05,940
this higher being is out there
that will save us from the

1588
01:44:05,940 --> 01:44:10,530
horrors of the world and the
horrors of this planet would

1589
01:44:10,530 --> 01:44:13,380
essentially be a nuclear
holocaust, a nuclear war that

1590
01:44:13,380 --> 01:44:18,870
would destroy us all. We want
that. The reality though is

1591
01:44:18,900 --> 01:44:23,700
would they care. And and this is
something that I love. This is

1592
01:44:23,700 --> 01:44:26,700
another one of those, I'll bore
you to death for hours. But I'll

1593
01:44:26,700 --> 01:44:30,030
use this analogy for you. And I
love the anthill analogy, and

1594
01:44:30,150 --> 01:44:33,660
anybody who knows me knows I
fall back on that a lot, because

1595
01:44:33,660 --> 01:44:38,100
I think it makes the most sense.
The idea that they would come

1596
01:44:38,100 --> 01:44:42,780
and save us from the nuclear
holocaust is is the same, I

1597
01:44:42,780 --> 01:44:46,680
would say, situation where
humanity would march out to the

1598
01:44:46,680 --> 01:44:50,040
middle of the Sahara Desert, and
plant an American flag or the

1599
01:44:50,040 --> 01:44:54,210
flag of earth or whatever, and
tell an ant colony we're here.

1600
01:44:54,750 --> 01:44:59,460
We have lived 1000s of miles in
that direction. You didn't know

1601
01:44:59,460 --> 01:45:02,730
that. We were here. But we are
here. Now we want to help you

1602
01:45:03,540 --> 01:45:07,080
against that termite colony over
there because they could come

1603
01:45:07,080 --> 01:45:11,430
hurt you, or that other ant
colony, or they're going to

1604
01:45:11,430 --> 01:45:14,550
build a road here. So we're
going to move you, we don't do

1605
01:45:14,550 --> 01:45:20,610
that. We just don't, because we
just sadly, I don't care I do. I

1606
01:45:20,610 --> 01:45:24,990
love ants. That's why I use the
ant analogy. But regardless, we

1607
01:45:24,990 --> 01:45:28,860
just don't do that. The
intellectual gap, arguably, in

1608
01:45:28,860 --> 01:45:34,170
my mind, would be closer between
a human and an anthill, an ant

1609
01:45:34,410 --> 01:45:38,490
that built that hill, it would
be closer in that situation than

1610
01:45:38,490 --> 01:45:41,820
it would be between humans and a
civilization, let's say a

1611
01:45:42,060 --> 01:45:46,380
million years had a million year
headstart on us. And so would

1612
01:45:46,380 --> 01:45:50,790
they come and save the anthill.
And I just don't see it. Because

1613
01:45:50,790 --> 01:45:53,250
if we are here, and they are
there, they have that million

1614
01:45:53,250 --> 01:45:57,300
year headstart, the likelihood
of us being the only ones around

1615
01:45:58,020 --> 01:46:01,290
is pretty nil. If that was the
last anthill in the Sahara

1616
01:46:01,290 --> 01:46:03,960
Desert, yeah, I believe humans
would would go save it, but it's

1617
01:46:03,960 --> 01:46:07,680
not. So if the reality that
there's a civilization out there

1618
01:46:07,710 --> 01:46:11,280
that exists, they're going to
come all this way to save the

1619
01:46:11,280 --> 01:46:14,400
anthill from nuclear weapons. I
just don't buy it. I just don't

1620
01:46:14,400 --> 01:46:17,220
see it. Because there are
millions and millions then

1621
01:46:17,670 --> 01:46:20,310
scientifically and
mathematically of civilizations

1622
01:46:20,340 --> 01:46:24,810
out there to converse with and
if humanity on earth is going to

1623
01:46:24,810 --> 01:46:29,280
destroy itself, would they care?
And it's that until again, I

1624
01:46:29,280 --> 01:46:31,890
think the answer is no, of
course, that's just an opinion

1625
01:46:31,890 --> 01:46:35,460
and for fun, but regardless, it
kind of goes into what you were

1626
01:46:35,460 --> 01:46:39,360
saying. So Oliver, thank you. I
hope that answered your question

1627
01:46:39,360 --> 01:46:43,050
a little bit. But, but
appreciate it. Nonetheless, you

1628
01:46:43,050 --> 01:46:45,240
came up back to back with
another one. And I appreciate

1629
01:46:45,240 --> 01:46:48,480
that. I'm the very opposite of
what you just described. I hate

1630
01:46:48,480 --> 01:46:51,990
authority of or higher beings. I
just hate it. I'd hate them to

1631
01:46:51,990 --> 01:46:54,750
be interfering. But is this
true? I might understand.

1632
01:46:56,430 --> 01:46:59,520
I think you're the not an
exception to the rule. But I

1633
01:46:59,520 --> 01:47:05,280
would say that that most people,
you know, they want to I want to

1634
01:47:05,280 --> 01:47:07,710
say most I'll correct myself.
I'm not really sure what the

1635
01:47:07,710 --> 01:47:10,350
majority would be. So I don't
want to say you're an exception

1636
01:47:10,350 --> 01:47:13,920
to the rule. I would, in my
personal opinion, argue that the

1637
01:47:13,920 --> 01:47:18,780
majority of human humanity wants
that nurturing, they're going to

1638
01:47:18,780 --> 01:47:22,950
come save us, because there's no
other option. We can't destroy

1639
01:47:22,950 --> 01:47:26,340
them. If they've got a million
year 100,000 year headstart, and

1640
01:47:26,340 --> 01:47:29,400
they can traverse the stars. We
got no fighting chance. So I

1641
01:47:29,400 --> 01:47:32,010
think that's the easy fallback
for a lot of people. But,

1642
01:47:32,340 --> 01:47:35,610
Oliver, it's a fun topic, and I
not only appreciate your

1643
01:47:35,610 --> 01:47:38,850
support, but appreciate your
thoughts nonetheless. Let me get

1644
01:47:38,850 --> 01:47:40,680
one more Super Chat. Then I'll
go back to the phones. I'm

1645
01:47:40,680 --> 01:47:45,180
sorry. For those on hold. Did.
Dolores, thank you for the

1646
01:47:45,180 --> 01:47:47,670
support. Did you feel your views
about Elizondo were accurately

1647
01:47:47,670 --> 01:47:50,520
reflected in the Showtime
series? UFO? Did you like the

1648
01:47:50,520 --> 01:47:53,970
show? Overall? I've been waiting
for this question I've been I've

1649
01:47:53,970 --> 01:47:58,440
been wondering Is somebody gonna
ask this? Do I feel that my

1650
01:47:58,470 --> 01:48:03,000
views about Elizondo were
accurately reflected? I do in my

1651
01:48:03,210 --> 01:48:08,880
specific what I said segments. I
do not have any control over the

1652
01:48:08,880 --> 01:48:11,610
writing of Showtime, the editing
of Showtime, the overall message

1653
01:48:11,610 --> 01:48:17,520
of Showtime, nothing JJ Abrams
and his crew did all of that.

1654
01:48:18,210 --> 01:48:23,550
What I stand by is what I said.
And and what I said absolutely.

1655
01:48:23,550 --> 01:48:28,110
I do believe that about Mr.
Elizondo that he did operate

1656
01:48:28,110 --> 01:48:31,860
like a ghost within a Pentagon,
in the Pentagon, he operated in

1657
01:48:31,890 --> 01:48:37,200
a office that is very hard to
find information on. I didn't

1658
01:48:37,200 --> 01:48:40,350
make the accusation. He was in
it for the money. Some people on

1659
01:48:40,350 --> 01:48:43,740
Twitter tried to say that I said
that I did not. I was talking

1660
01:48:43,740 --> 01:48:48,090
about that group as a whole,
that some of them possibly had

1661
01:48:48,090 --> 01:48:51,540
money as a motivating factor. I
stand by that as well. I don't

1662
01:48:51,540 --> 01:48:55,680
think anybody should scoff at
that. That's why people get into

1663
01:48:55,710 --> 01:48:59,610
to a corporate world like that.
If they didn't care, it'd be a

1664
01:48:59,610 --> 01:49:07,170
five oc 535 OHS What is a 503 C
or whatever the nonprofit is,

1665
01:49:07,170 --> 01:49:11,010
I'm drawing a blank My back's
killing me. So I apologize. But

1666
01:49:11,010 --> 01:49:13,920
whatever the nonprofit is, it
would be that and he would have

1667
01:49:13,920 --> 01:49:17,550
a much different vision for it.
But but instead it was a public

1668
01:49:17,700 --> 01:49:22,590
benefit corporation that was
trying to raise $50 million that

1669
01:49:22,590 --> 01:49:26,310
had different angles of what
they wanted to achieve. They

1670
01:49:26,310 --> 01:49:29,340
have altered that vision and
rightfully so it's the right to

1671
01:49:29,340 --> 01:49:34,320
do that. But altered that vision
to be financially more lucrative

1672
01:49:34,320 --> 01:49:38,940
because they missed that 50
million mark across the board.

1673
01:49:39,420 --> 01:49:44,370
So I spoke in general generality
there, but with Mr. Elizondo I

1674
01:49:44,370 --> 01:49:48,390
stand by what I said everything
is backed up by by official

1675
01:49:48,390 --> 01:49:53,340
documentation and evidence or
the lack thereof. So I don't I

1676
01:49:53,340 --> 01:49:56,490
don't have any issues with the
way I was reflected on Showtime.

1677
01:49:56,730 --> 01:50:01,410
And I'm always happy to to
answer Questions on that. But

1678
01:50:01,410 --> 01:50:04,020
again, I just want to punch the
point. I don't have control over

1679
01:50:04,020 --> 01:50:07,260
anyone else. I know the James
carry on was very pointed with

1680
01:50:07,260 --> 01:50:10,140
what he said in the same segment
that I appeared on about it

1681
01:50:10,140 --> 01:50:14,220
being an op from the beginning.
That's James, I was unaware

1682
01:50:14,220 --> 01:50:18,450
James was even interviewed for
the show. So what he says,

1683
01:50:18,870 --> 01:50:21,870
you'll have to check with him.
But I'm happy to stand by what I

1684
01:50:21,870 --> 01:50:26,610
did. Did you like the show?
Overall? I did. I was

1685
01:50:28,830 --> 01:50:31,980
taking it from a viewpoint of
being a television producer. For

1686
01:50:31,980 --> 01:50:35,370
many years, I've done many hours
of documentaries for history and

1687
01:50:35,610 --> 01:50:39,480
discovery and natgeo, and stuff
like that. And the reason why I

1688
01:50:39,480 --> 01:50:42,540
bring that up is because there's
there's one element to doing

1689
01:50:42,540 --> 01:50:45,390
shows like that, for networks
that I think the general public

1690
01:50:45,390 --> 01:50:49,110
doesn't always want to
understand, or they don't

1691
01:50:49,110 --> 01:50:54,150
understand, which is you have to
have a balance, you have to have

1692
01:50:54,150 --> 01:50:57,780
a point and a counterpoint. And
that's not always appealing to

1693
01:50:57,780 --> 01:51:00,990
the UFO community. And to be
honest with you, with me as a

1694
01:51:00,990 --> 01:51:04,920
producer, when I was working as
one, it wasn't appealing to me,

1695
01:51:04,920 --> 01:51:07,950
either. Because you had to
refute or give an alternate

1696
01:51:07,950 --> 01:51:11,220
point of view, for a lot of the
points that you were trying to

1697
01:51:11,220 --> 01:51:16,410
make. I believe they had that
balance. Were they heavy on the

1698
01:51:16,650 --> 01:51:21,150
abduction part? Being the
skeptical on the abduction part?

1699
01:51:21,480 --> 01:51:24,720
I do believe that they were
heavy on that. Is that a

1700
01:51:24,720 --> 01:51:29,160
complaint? No, because I believe
that they still had that balance

1701
01:51:29,190 --> 01:51:32,520
of people telling their stories,
giving the information and

1702
01:51:32,520 --> 01:51:36,270
again, that journalistic back
and forth, so I give them credit

1703
01:51:36,270 --> 01:51:40,260
for that I really do. And it
watching, it took me back to

1704
01:51:40,290 --> 01:51:42,930
getting network notes from the
History Channel, or from

1705
01:51:42,930 --> 01:51:45,960
Discovery Channel, or wherever.
And you'll make a point in a

1706
01:51:45,960 --> 01:51:49,230
show. And when you write a show
like this, it's your baby, like

1707
01:51:49,230 --> 01:51:52,110
this is what you you know, you
put your heart and soul into a

1708
01:51:52,110 --> 01:51:54,780
one hour documentary when you're
doing them. And so for them to

1709
01:51:54,780 --> 01:51:57,570
come back and go, Hey, you gotta
cut this down. And then it let's

1710
01:51:57,570 --> 01:52:00,810
bring in Dr. Seth shostack. And
we'll go ahead and, you know,

1711
01:52:00,810 --> 01:52:04,110
poopoo the idea or whatever it
is, and you cringe and go now

1712
01:52:04,110 --> 01:52:06,660
now this is such a great
segment, I want to, I want to do

1713
01:52:06,660 --> 01:52:09,630
something else. But that those
are the network notes because

1714
01:52:09,630 --> 01:52:13,740
they want that balance. And so I
saw that, and I and I kind of

1715
01:52:13,770 --> 01:52:17,820
internally laughed a little bit,
but I get it and I and I wish

1716
01:52:17,820 --> 01:52:21,900
that the UFO community can
understand that because if the

1717
01:52:21,900 --> 01:52:27,390
skeptical point of view is
wrong, then the pro point of

1718
01:52:27,390 --> 01:52:30,960
view will stand on its own. And
if the evidence is there to

1719
01:52:30,960 --> 01:52:36,030
support narrative x y&z then
skeptical viewpoint, A, B and C

1720
01:52:36,030 --> 01:52:39,510
will do nothing to it. And so
when you offer that balance,

1721
01:52:39,540 --> 01:52:43,050
you're offering the balance, and
you're letting the audience

1722
01:52:43,050 --> 01:52:47,220
decide. But you have the
information there. And if the

1723
01:52:47,220 --> 01:52:50,880
information is strong enough to
stand on its own. It absolutely

1724
01:52:50,880 --> 01:52:54,360
will. Let me go to the phones.
I'm so sorry. I kept you on

1725
01:52:54,360 --> 01:53:02,430
hold. Who's this? Hello. Hey,
hey, it's Erica. How are you?

1726
01:53:02,730 --> 01:53:09,930
I'm good. Erica. Luke's Well, I
didn't recognize your number. I

1727
01:53:09,930 --> 01:53:16,080
won't. I won't say the locale.
It's not your locale. Yeah. So I

1728
01:53:16,080 --> 01:53:21,870
was like, I'm calling on Skype.
Okay. Hi, Eric. Luke's How are

1729
01:53:21,870 --> 01:53:25,920
you? I'm pretty good. How are
you? I'm doing awesome. I'm

1730
01:53:25,920 --> 01:53:28,620
sorry to keep you on hold. And
I'm sorry to draw a blank there.

1731
01:53:28,620 --> 01:53:32,430
Again, the the area code threw
me off from where I know you are

1732
01:53:32,430 --> 01:53:33,810
so no, good.

1733
01:53:34,860 --> 01:53:37,170
Unknown: I just wanted to say
that. First of all, I thought

1734
01:53:37,170 --> 01:53:42,630
you did an excellent job on UFO.
And I think that it was really

1735
01:53:42,630 --> 01:53:47,160
interesting for me to see all of
the backlash that you had for

1736
01:53:47,160 --> 01:53:51,450
simply stating information that
was actually truthful. And I

1737
01:53:51,450 --> 01:53:54,270
feel you know, the same about
James carry on who was on my

1738
01:53:54,270 --> 01:53:58,890
show last night, it was very
funny to see the very small

1739
01:53:59,040 --> 01:54:03,300
quote unquote UFO community,
kind of lighting the pitch, you

1740
01:54:03,300 --> 01:54:05,070
know, like getting their
pitchforks out lighting the

1741
01:54:05,070 --> 01:54:09,330
fires. And unfortunately, they
when you're doing a good

1742
01:54:09,330 --> 01:54:12,480
production, as you've mentioned,
you you it's you have to present

1743
01:54:12,480 --> 01:54:15,870
both sides to a story. And
that's the thing that we never

1744
01:54:15,870 --> 01:54:20,040
do in the UFO community we go,
we're so you know, we're getting

1745
01:54:20,070 --> 01:54:24,690
going down this rabbit hole of
just absolute nonsense. It's

1746
01:54:24,690 --> 01:54:29,340
actually very, it's very
damaging to individuals. And I

1747
01:54:29,340 --> 01:54:32,310
think that we're not grounded,
and we're not capable of asking

1748
01:54:32,310 --> 01:54:35,640
critical questions. And so I
appreciated that you did that on

1749
01:54:35,670 --> 01:54:37,290
on the show. Well, I

1750
01:54:37,290 --> 01:54:39,990
John Greenewald: appreciate the
kind words Yeah, I think not to

1751
01:54:39,990 --> 01:54:43,710
repeat what I said a few moments
ago, but i i think that what

1752
01:54:43,890 --> 01:54:47,310
people don't realize is that if
your evidence stands on its own,

1753
01:54:47,310 --> 01:54:51,030
nothing you throw at it will
damage it. You know, and all be

1754
01:54:51,030 --> 01:54:55,410
it television is very powerful
to craft a certain message or,

1755
01:54:55,590 --> 01:54:59,130
you know, have that type of
objective if they had a sinister

1756
01:54:59,130 --> 01:55:02,610
one. They could have Keep it
really easy. Absolutely. And I

1757
01:55:02,610 --> 01:55:05,730
just lost you. I don't know if
you can hear me. I can. Yeah.

1758
01:55:06,090 --> 01:55:09,570
Not sure if you can still hear
me. But But yeah, yeah. Now I

1759
01:55:09,570 --> 01:55:12,990
didn't get that feeling with
with the Showtime documentary.

1760
01:55:13,260 --> 01:55:16,830
They were they were posing
important questions and I think

1761
01:55:16,830 --> 01:55:20,460
that the two big things that I
saw the flack for anyway was the

1762
01:55:20,490 --> 01:55:23,820
was the money comment which I
absolutely Stand by. I don't

1763
01:55:23,820 --> 01:55:27,210
think anybody should shy away
from that. But also the aura

1764
01:55:27,240 --> 01:55:32,130
that there was something
underneath the onion layer of

1765
01:55:32,130 --> 01:55:35,910
this truth and disclosure
facade. Was there something else

1766
01:55:35,910 --> 01:55:40,140
going on? And although I didn't
say it that way, and I know

1767
01:55:40,140 --> 01:55:44,220
James carry on said more of the
OP part of it. I do believe we

1768
01:55:44,220 --> 01:55:47,820
can't discount that, that
there's some other layer that we

1769
01:55:47,820 --> 01:55:50,640
don't know yet. And in fact, you
can arguably say there

1770
01:55:50,640 --> 01:55:54,090
absolutely is. I mean, look how
many times answers are given

1771
01:55:54,090 --> 01:55:57,330
saying I can't I can't say
anything, because of my NDA or

1772
01:55:57,330 --> 01:56:00,720
my my security clearance or
whatever. So there is another

1773
01:56:00,720 --> 01:56:03,570
layer. What is that layer
though? And that that's what I

1774
01:56:03,570 --> 01:56:07,440
don't? What I don't know. But I
think too many people want to

1775
01:56:07,470 --> 01:56:08,010
ask me

1776
01:56:08,010 --> 01:56:12,510
Unknown: agree. And I think it
is interesting. It's interesting

1777
01:56:13,500 --> 01:56:16,440
to note, and hopefully you can
hear me, I keep dropping out,

1778
01:56:16,440 --> 01:56:20,580
we've got a storm coming in. But
if you can hear me, it's

1779
01:56:20,580 --> 01:56:23,880
interesting to note that if you
really truly have, you know,

1780
01:56:23,880 --> 01:56:26,370
you're working on classified
programs, and you have security

1781
01:56:26,370 --> 01:56:31,950
clearances, you don't go out in
the public and you know, talk

1782
01:56:31,980 --> 01:56:35,880
about things like that. The last
thing you do is draw attention

1783
01:56:35,880 --> 01:56:38,850
to it. Yeah. And so I just have
to wonder.

1784
01:56:42,030 --> 01:56:43,590
John Greenewald: Just have to
wonder we're gonna be left in

1785
01:56:43,590 --> 01:56:46,470
suspense. Erica, do we I think
we did lose. Yeah.

1786
01:56:47,099 --> 01:56:51,299
Unknown: So we got a big storm
coming in. I know, we've got a

1787
01:56:51,689 --> 01:56:54,899
big storm coming in. But I was
just saying I, you know, if if

1788
01:56:54,899 --> 01:56:58,079
you're really working on
classified programs, and you're

1789
01:56:58,079 --> 01:57:00,449
really doing the things that you
say that you're doing, you don't

1790
01:57:00,449 --> 01:57:04,619
go on TV shows, and you don't
write books about, you know,

1791
01:57:04,619 --> 01:57:08,279
skinwalker Ranch, and do all of
these things to draw attention

1792
01:57:08,279 --> 01:57:11,669
to things you're you're on the
down low. Yeah. Because you

1793
01:57:11,669 --> 01:57:14,789
know, you've got your family and
you've got people that you're

1794
01:57:14,789 --> 01:57:17,969
protecting and you're protecting
government secrets. So that the

1795
01:57:18,359 --> 01:57:24,059
the whole thing of I think with
with put off Elizondo, all of

1796
01:57:24,059 --> 01:57:27,869
these people that have been
promoting a narrative for a

1797
01:57:27,869 --> 01:57:31,019
long, long time is I, after my
research,

1798
01:57:33,240 --> 01:57:34,590
John Greenewald: I lost you
again,

1799
01:57:34,770 --> 01:57:38,130
Unknown: people need to put
information out or we know that

1800
01:57:38,130 --> 01:57:42,660
they're, they're absolutely
full, full of it. Well, I

1801
01:57:42,660 --> 01:57:45,270
John Greenewald: don't want to
say full of it. But I think that

1802
01:57:45,270 --> 01:57:49,680
the, for me anyway, there are
still a lot of unanswered

1803
01:57:49,680 --> 01:57:54,870
questions. And until we find
those those those answers, we

1804
01:57:54,870 --> 01:57:58,350
shouldn't stop asking. And there
are too many noisy, there's not

1805
01:57:58,350 --> 01:58:01,350
a ton. But there are too many
very loud voice.

1806
01:58:01,380 --> 01:58:05,610
Unknown: I agree until we find
the answers I and you're much,

1807
01:58:06,030 --> 01:58:10,020
much kinder than I am. And I'm
to the point after the

1808
01:58:10,020 --> 01:58:13,710
skinwalker Saga, that I
definitely I will say they're

1809
01:58:13,710 --> 01:58:17,160
full of it, and I'll call them
out. And I do because they

1810
01:58:17,160 --> 01:58:21,810
produce nothing but creating a
narrative that is confusing for

1811
01:58:21,810 --> 01:58:25,140
people, they they're making
money off of things, they're not

1812
01:58:25,140 --> 01:58:28,560
being forthright with their
intentions. And to me, that's

1813
01:58:28,980 --> 01:58:33,750
very disturbing. And I hope at
some point in time that that

1814
01:58:33,750 --> 01:58:39,000
will be exposed. Yeah. I meet
Don, I don't I don't back away

1815
01:58:39,000 --> 01:58:39,540
from No,

1816
01:58:39,540 --> 01:58:42,540
John Greenewald: no. And and and
that's that's why that's why I

1817
01:58:42,540 --> 01:58:48,390
like is that you that you don't
the what I would say, though,

1818
01:58:48,420 --> 01:58:52,380
that's that's very concerning is
that I can support an

1819
01:58:52,380 --> 01:58:56,160
entrepreneurial venture, you
know, if they're going to

1820
01:58:56,160 --> 01:59:00,750
profit, fine, but let's see
results. What bothers me is the

1821
01:59:00,750 --> 01:59:07,380
swallowing up of the information
under the guise of transparency,

1822
01:59:07,380 --> 01:59:11,220
openness, and we're going to
change the world about UFOs. But

1823
01:59:11,220 --> 01:59:14,310
look at going back to the story
that I was talking about earlier

1824
01:59:14,310 --> 01:59:18,690
with, you know, the the pieces
of UAP debris or crash records,

1825
01:59:18,690 --> 01:59:22,050
whatever you want to refer to
him as that they've swallowed up

1826
01:59:22,050 --> 01:59:26,160
all of that material. And
absolutely nothing has happened.

1827
01:59:26,160 --> 01:59:30,810
And when you ask them as a
taxpayer who is helping fund

1828
01:59:30,990 --> 01:59:36,540
their agreement, they just don't
say anything, as an investor,

1829
01:59:36,750 --> 01:59:40,620
their minute meeting meeting
minutes that are public say

1830
01:59:40,620 --> 01:59:44,070
absolutely nothing. That's the
kind of stuff that I think

1831
01:59:44,100 --> 01:59:48,480
should be ridiculed. The
entrepreneurial profit venture,

1832
01:59:48,600 --> 01:59:54,870
okay? We can maybe argue both
ways on that. But it's the it's

1833
01:59:54,870 --> 01:59:59,640
the control. And that to me, I
think drives all else is the

1834
01:59:59,640 --> 02:00:03,660
control Roll over the
information over the narrative.

1835
02:00:03,960 --> 02:00:07,920
And although they've done a lot
of great they have done, and you

1836
02:00:07,920 --> 02:00:11,220
may disagree with me, they've
done a lot of great things for

1837
02:00:11,220 --> 02:00:14,970
the conversation to be put into
the public. Right? whether or

1838
02:00:14,970 --> 02:00:20,430
not that's all rooted in 100%
honesty? Yeah, we can probably

1839
02:00:20,430 --> 02:00:23,970
find some some common ground
there. But they have done that.

1840
02:00:24,210 --> 02:00:27,720
And so I give them credit for
that. But what worries me is

1841
02:00:27,720 --> 02:00:32,790
again, that control and to see
now the internal army documents,

1842
02:00:33,030 --> 02:00:37,470
and to see now that fear that I
posed two years ago of you're

1843
02:00:37,470 --> 02:00:40,260
taking this material giving it
to the to the government, and

1844
02:00:40,260 --> 02:00:43,860
now the documentation shows that
the Pentagon is involved in the

1845
02:00:43,860 --> 02:00:47,700
message. Well, why would you do
that? Like you're a private

1846
02:00:47,700 --> 02:00:52,200
corporation that has this, this
want and desire to bring all

1847
02:00:52,200 --> 02:00:56,970
this information out? Yet you
just got in bed with the enemy

1848
02:00:56,970 --> 02:00:59,910
number one that you guys are the
ones that told us we're lying.

1849
02:01:00,330 --> 02:01:03,330
You know, that Mr. Elizondo
spearheaded that part of the

1850
02:01:03,330 --> 02:01:06,930
movement, saying that we are not
getting the full story. So why

1851
02:01:06,930 --> 02:01:11,070
would you take all that material
that could be that that key to

1852
02:01:11,070 --> 02:01:14,250
unlocking this entire mystery,
and give it right back to them?

1853
02:01:15,060 --> 02:01:20,820
I don't get that. So financial
stuff aside. It's it's that

1854
02:01:20,820 --> 02:01:23,160
control, it just bugs me to no
end.

1855
02:01:24,720 --> 02:01:27,300
Unknown: No, absolutely. Great.
Those are great points. I

1856
02:01:27,300 --> 02:01:32,910
definitely just have to say to
people, it's we've got to quit,

1857
02:01:32,940 --> 02:01:37,110
I feel looking for disclosure,
and we're not going to get it

1858
02:01:37,110 --> 02:01:40,050
from the powers that be the
people that are screaming the

1859
02:01:40,050 --> 02:01:42,810
loudest about disclosure,
because they're making money.

1860
02:01:42,810 --> 02:01:46,560
They're holding conferences. In
fact, there was a great

1861
02:01:46,590 --> 02:01:50,970
conference this weekend that
Elizondo and how and and Whitley

1862
02:01:50,970 --> 02:01:55,770
Strieber and those people were
at, in so it's, it's, I really

1863
02:01:55,770 --> 02:02:00,240
feel that we deserve better than
this. I think that there's a lot

1864
02:02:00,240 --> 02:02:04,200
of money power politics, I hate
to say it, but there's some

1865
02:02:04,200 --> 02:02:07,200
things that we need to look at.
Because at the end of the day,

1866
02:02:07,350 --> 02:02:10,890
people that are here that follow
my show that follow your show,

1867
02:02:11,280 --> 02:02:14,190
are here because we want the
truth, and we deserve it.

1868
02:02:14,280 --> 02:02:18,480
John Greenewald: Yeah. And no
disagreement with me there. Or

1869
02:02:18,510 --> 02:02:23,040
from me there. You're absolutely
right. I hope we get it. And

1870
02:02:23,040 --> 02:02:25,920
your phone call reminds me that
we got to bring you back on to

1871
02:02:25,950 --> 02:02:28,800
this channel for a full
conversation because I always

1872
02:02:28,800 --> 02:02:29,670
love talking to you.

1873
02:02:31,170 --> 02:02:33,210
Unknown: When I do too, and I
need to get you on my show. But

1874
02:02:33,210 --> 02:02:35,790
I just I would love to come on
because I've learned so much

1875
02:02:35,790 --> 02:02:40,230
more about skinwalker Ranch, and
about some of the other things

1876
02:02:40,230 --> 02:02:42,810
since I acquired the Andropov
file. So I would love that

1877
02:02:42,810 --> 02:02:43,590
opportunity.

1878
02:02:43,650 --> 02:02:46,950
John Greenewald: Yeah, very cool
stuff. And obviously you have a

1879
02:02:46,950 --> 02:02:49,590
radio show real quick before I
let you go then I'm gonna have

1880
02:02:49,590 --> 02:02:53,400
to close my show here. But how
do people see your show?

1881
02:02:54,900 --> 02:02:58,380
Unknown: So my show is UFO
classified now I'm I'm streaming

1882
02:02:58,380 --> 02:03:04,020
on YouTube, where you can find
it on spreaker or iTunes, and

1883
02:03:04,020 --> 02:03:07,290
things like that. And so you can
go to UFO classified comm or

1884
02:03:07,320 --> 02:03:10,350
Urkel Luke's comm To find out
more, but I try to bring on

1885
02:03:10,350 --> 02:03:13,770
people like you and James carry
on and people who are dedicated

1886
02:03:13,770 --> 02:03:16,980
to trying to find the truth and
weeding through all of the

1887
02:03:16,980 --> 02:03:19,770
nonsense. Awesome. Well, I

1888
02:03:19,770 --> 02:03:22,170
John Greenewald: always enjoy
being on your show. So thanks

1889
02:03:22,170 --> 02:03:24,510
for that inviting me in the
past. And we'll have to do it

1890
02:03:24,510 --> 02:03:27,090
again on on both sides of this,
but it's good to hear your voice

1891
02:03:27,090 --> 02:03:29,490
again. Thanks for the call.
Thank you. Yeah, have a good

1892
02:03:29,490 --> 02:03:33,240
night. Thanks. You too. All
right, I am going to have to run

1893
02:03:33,330 --> 02:03:37,740
wind this up here in a couple
minutes. Let me go ahead and I

1894
02:03:37,740 --> 02:03:40,830
took the number off the screen.
I don't know how many people

1895
02:03:40,860 --> 02:03:43,410
might be on hold. But let me go
ahead and get to the last couple

1896
02:03:43,410 --> 02:03:46,050
of super chats here. JOHN music
again. Thank you for your

1897
02:03:46,080 --> 02:03:49,140
continued support. Sheehan said
recently with Bob McGuire, that

1898
02:03:49,140 --> 02:03:52,770
he's going to push extremely
legally hard for full disclosure

1899
02:03:52,770 --> 02:03:55,650
to the public about non human
reality thoughts. I don't

1900
02:03:55,650 --> 02:03:58,260
believe a lawyer can do it. I
love Danny Sheehan, in the sense

1901
02:03:58,260 --> 02:04:03,300
that I've known him for years,
lectured at the same, you know,

1902
02:04:03,300 --> 02:04:08,670
the same conferences as him, and
sat on panels with them and have

1903
02:04:08,670 --> 02:04:12,480
a lot of respect for him. As
with anybody in this field, we

1904
02:04:12,480 --> 02:04:16,830
always don't agree, but I like
him nonetheless. pushing hard

1905
02:04:16,830 --> 02:04:21,060
for the disclosure, though I
just don't see it. I don't think

1906
02:04:21,060 --> 02:04:24,540
it's going to come that way. I
personally on disclosure, don't

1907
02:04:24,540 --> 02:04:29,010
think it's going to come at all
in regards to an official line.

1908
02:04:29,370 --> 02:04:33,090
Somebody like who just called
Eric Luke's saying the same

1909
02:04:33,090 --> 02:04:35,310
thing. It's not going to come
from the powers that be and I

1910
02:04:35,310 --> 02:04:39,930
agree. You look at the history
from the 1940s on it's just not

1911
02:04:39,930 --> 02:04:45,540
going to be there. So that said
thank you, john. Let me go ahead

1912
02:04:45,570 --> 02:04:51,030
and let me pull on this caller.
I was gonna cut the show but

1913
02:04:51,030 --> 02:04:53,220
this caller might be kind of
interesting. Who's this?

1914
02:04:55,230 --> 02:04:58,200
Unknown: Hello, this is john
I'm, I'm from a place you've

1915
02:04:58,200 --> 02:05:00,840
probably never heard of called
Northridge Northridge,

1916
02:05:00,840 --> 02:05:01,740
California. JOHN,

1917
02:05:01,770 --> 02:05:05,040
John Greenewald: I grew up
there. You're kidding. I did.

1918
02:05:05,580 --> 02:05:08,310
And your voice sounds awfully
familiar.

1919
02:05:08,730 --> 02:05:11,250
Unknown: Oh, I imitate a lot of
people. Sometimes

1920
02:05:11,280 --> 02:05:13,530
John Greenewald: you do well,
you probably imitate me a lot,

1921
02:05:13,530 --> 02:05:17,490
just a much older version. Let
me introduce everybody to my

1922
02:05:17,490 --> 02:05:22,620
father, who has probably been
watching and wants to, I don't

1923
02:05:22,620 --> 02:05:26,040
know, turn it into a political
talk show or something and get

1924
02:05:26,040 --> 02:05:26,850
me in trouble. I

1925
02:05:27,270 --> 02:05:30,240
Unknown: actually I was gonna
but I had I got a different I

1926
02:05:30,240 --> 02:05:31,530
got some different tasks.

1927
02:05:31,560 --> 02:05:34,620
John Greenewald: Oh, good. Well,
we'll wait. So before you go

1928
02:05:34,620 --> 02:05:37,740
there. So anybody who's followed
the black Vault for a long time

1929
02:05:37,740 --> 02:05:40,830
this is greeny to that has been
on the message boards for a long

1930
02:05:40,830 --> 02:05:45,990
time. Now with the social media,
empires taking over. Message

1931
02:05:45,990 --> 02:05:51,810
forums aren't as popular
anymore. But my dad has been a

1932
02:05:51,810 --> 02:05:55,800
longtime user under the name of
green, he too, has gotten into

1933
02:05:55,800 --> 02:05:58,860
trouble more times than I can
count. I think I've banned you

1934
02:05:58,860 --> 02:06:02,400
100,000 times but you keep
coming back. But that's not done

1935
02:06:02,400 --> 02:06:08,100
yet. Yeah, sure. But okay, so
let's get to the question. I'm a

1936
02:06:08,100 --> 02:06:08,850
little nervous.

1937
02:06:09,690 --> 02:06:12,330
Unknown: Okay, well, first of
all, I wanted to say, your

1938
02:06:12,330 --> 02:06:17,130
mother and I are just glued to
the Showtime UFO show, we

1939
02:06:17,130 --> 02:06:21,900
thought it was just absolutely
fantastic. And we're gonna

1940
02:06:21,900 --> 02:06:24,960
probably watch it again, five or
six times? Oh, well, I

1941
02:06:24,960 --> 02:06:26,610
John Greenewald: appreciate my
biggest fans, you

1942
02:06:28,140 --> 02:06:30,030
Unknown: know, actually, you
were you were saying a little

1943
02:06:30,030 --> 02:06:35,220
while ago about, you know, we
have such a fascination with in

1944
02:06:35,220 --> 02:06:39,840
our country, maybe even the
world would have, you know, have

1945
02:06:39,840 --> 02:06:44,790
we had visitors from far far
away places? And, you know, the

1946
02:06:44,790 --> 02:06:48,990
fascination of his life
somewhere is or not, and how

1947
02:06:48,990 --> 02:06:55,890
would we react to it. But then,
on our side here, we don't have

1948
02:06:55,890 --> 02:07:00,300
that kind of fascination about
watching our own space program.

1949
02:07:00,300 --> 02:07:05,430
And it's, you know, we're doing
amazing things, and we're going

1950
02:07:06,060 --> 02:07:13,140
to amazing places. I mean,
nowhere remotely close, as, you

1951
02:07:13,140 --> 02:07:20,580
know, anybody would be coming to
visit us, but I wonder what your

1952
02:07:20,580 --> 02:07:26,070
opinion on you know, like the
recent space flights were, you

1953
02:07:26,070 --> 02:07:29,790
know, they've been taken
civilians up and we are planning

1954
02:07:29,790 --> 02:07:33,960
to go back to the moon and, you
know, we're, you know, the goal

1955
02:07:33,960 --> 02:07:41,640
is send people to Mars in some
future. And everyone, why why do

1956
02:07:41,640 --> 02:07:48,270
we not have the same fascination
for for our own space program

1957
02:07:48,270 --> 02:07:52,650
when we're so fascinated with
wondering who can reach us?

1958
02:07:52,710 --> 02:07:53,190
Yeah,

1959
02:07:53,700 --> 02:07:56,070
John Greenewald: yet? No, you're
you're absolutely right. And to

1960
02:07:56,070 --> 02:08:00,000
get there's a bunch of chat,
things coming in right now. So

1961
02:08:00,030 --> 02:08:03,390
to address some of the
questions, this is my dad, so

1962
02:08:03,390 --> 02:08:09,930
yes, I'm not kidding. This is
john Greenwald, senior. I grew

1963
02:08:09,930 --> 02:08:13,560
up in a house and Dad, this is
for the audience who doesn't

1964
02:08:13,560 --> 02:08:16,890
know this, but I grew up in a
house where my dad worked on the

1965
02:08:16,890 --> 02:08:20,940
Space Shuttle. And so when you
see the space shuttle takeoff,

1966
02:08:20,940 --> 02:08:25,470
or when we saw takeoff, the big
engines on the bottom, the RS 68

1967
02:08:25,470 --> 02:08:29,910
or the SSM ease? That was my
dad's baby. So he was you know,

1968
02:08:29,970 --> 02:08:35,130
you were you were an our hero to
that entire program. And I'm not

1969
02:08:35,130 --> 02:08:40,080
saying that because you're my
dad, but but it instilled a love

1970
02:08:40,110 --> 02:08:45,180
for me into the space program.
And growing up, you know, the

1971
02:08:45,180 --> 02:08:48,300
privatization of it. And I think
actually, you and I may even

1972
02:08:48,300 --> 02:08:52,530
differ on this. But I hated to
see that I hated to see the

1973
02:08:52,530 --> 02:08:58,680
commercialization of the space
race and essentially the Elan

1974
02:08:58,680 --> 02:09:02,850
musk and the the Jeff Bezos and
ever and Richard Branson going

1975
02:09:02,850 --> 02:09:06,690
up and I didn't I didn't like
that i because I felt the

1976
02:09:06,690 --> 02:09:11,760
passion was lost. Now to Ilan
Musk's credit, I will give him

1977
02:09:12,000 --> 02:09:16,260
the passion I saw something that
he did in an interview and he

1978
02:09:16,260 --> 02:09:19,470
got emotionally you got teary
eyed and you know anybody can do

1979
02:09:19,470 --> 02:09:21,810
that as an actor but but he
wasn't acting I mean he you

1980
02:09:21,810 --> 02:09:26,280
could tell the passion behind
what he did. So I can see part

1981
02:09:26,280 --> 02:09:29,580
of the passion but I think that
that plays a role in that

1982
02:09:29,580 --> 02:09:33,720
people. The general public has
lost interest. And I really hate

1983
02:09:33,720 --> 02:09:37,470
to say this, but it was fun to
see so many big numbers watch

1984
02:09:37,470 --> 02:09:44,400
brands and go up and and beezus
go up. But I cringe saying this

1985
02:09:44,400 --> 02:09:47,160
but how it's like watching a
NASCAR race that they're looking

1986
02:09:47,160 --> 02:09:50,550
for the crash. You know, yeah,
and I hate to say it that way

1987
02:09:50,550 --> 02:09:54,900
but but I feel that that's why
some people tuned in and I'd

1988
02:09:54,900 --> 02:09:58,260
argue maybe even a lot that
we're looking for the the the

1989
02:09:58,260 --> 02:10:01,650
crash on turn number three
That's what it was, but the

1990
02:10:01,650 --> 02:10:06,810
passion for where we're going in
space is gone. And and I and I,

1991
02:10:07,020 --> 02:10:10,500
for the majority of the people,
and I hate that I cry, I cringe.

1992
02:10:10,740 --> 02:10:13,050
You know, I mean, you look at
what we've done on Mars in the

1993
02:10:13,050 --> 02:10:16,620
last year and flying a
helicopter and doing all this

1994
02:10:16,620 --> 02:10:24,630
stuff. That to me is so
overlooked, and and so lost. I

1995
02:10:24,630 --> 02:10:25,170
think

1996
02:10:25,890 --> 02:10:28,410
Unknown: it's remarkable. And
you would think that people

1997
02:10:28,410 --> 02:10:31,560
would be marveling over it,
especially when you hear that

1998
02:10:31,560 --> 02:10:36,690
that little helicopter had a
swatch taken off of the Wright

1999
02:10:36,690 --> 02:10:42,450
brothers. airplane. Yeah. And
was on that little helicopter.

2000
02:10:42,990 --> 02:10:45,270
That's I mean, that's just
astounding. Yeah.

2001
02:10:45,720 --> 02:10:48,300
John Greenewald: Yeah. And those
are the types of stories I think

2002
02:10:48,300 --> 02:10:51,240
that that the general public is
missing out on. And I feel that

2003
02:10:51,240 --> 02:10:55,590
we're as a whole losing that.
And the question mark is, you

2004
02:10:55,590 --> 02:10:59,970
know, people love the UFO stuff,
like our aliens here, and so on

2005
02:10:59,970 --> 02:11:02,880
and so forth. Because it's pop
culture free and, and it gets

2006
02:11:02,880 --> 02:11:06,270
some some good headlines. But I
think that they're, they're,

2007
02:11:06,300 --> 02:11:08,820
they're missing the bigger
picture, you know, that we

2008
02:11:08,820 --> 02:11:12,480
should really sit down and
figure out what the answer to

2009
02:11:12,480 --> 02:11:16,050
these questions are. And I think
a lot of people aren't, I

2010
02:11:16,050 --> 02:11:19,350
interviewed Avi Loeb from
Harvard University on this

2011
02:11:19,350 --> 02:11:22,050
channel not too long ago. And
you can see that he really wants

2012
02:11:22,050 --> 02:11:25,770
those answers. What boggles my
mind is why don't more people

2013
02:11:25,770 --> 02:11:28,920
want those answers, not only in
the scientific community, but

2014
02:11:28,920 --> 02:11:31,680
the general public. And I don't
I wish I knew the answer to

2015
02:11:31,680 --> 02:11:36,120
that. But I just, I don't have
it. But I but I will say that,

2016
02:11:36,120 --> 02:11:41,310
that that was one thing growing
up that that was so amazing that

2017
02:11:41,310 --> 02:11:46,140
I've never lost, which was, you
know, the the love for the space

2018
02:11:46,140 --> 02:11:49,530
race and space technology and
the advancements for that,

2019
02:11:49,530 --> 02:11:53,700
because there was such passion
with what you guys did. And

2020
02:11:53,730 --> 02:11:58,140
another quick story for the
audience is that dad would have

2021
02:11:58,890 --> 02:12:02,310
Dad, what can I admit this? Dad
would have these take your son

2022
02:12:02,310 --> 02:12:05,370
to work days or take your kid to
work days? And you have to be

2023
02:12:05,370 --> 02:12:10,320
like, under a certain age, you
know, to go. And can I say it?

2024
02:12:10,380 --> 02:12:15,210
Like how, yeah, how many years
after I blow past the age that I

2025
02:12:15,210 --> 02:12:18,120
was supposed to be? And I think
you kept saying, Oh, yeah, he's

2026
02:12:18,120 --> 02:12:21,390
seven. And I was like, 18 going
in there. And yeah,

2027
02:12:21,390 --> 02:12:23,550
Unknown: I think the last one,
we got you right in. But

2028
02:12:25,410 --> 02:12:28,650
John Greenewald: you remember,
there was a control center. And

2029
02:12:28,650 --> 02:12:31,980
they were they were
communicating. I forget what it

2030
02:12:31,980 --> 02:12:35,340
was. It wasn't only with the
shuttle. But I started asking

2031
02:12:35,370 --> 02:12:38,850
about something that I guess
encroached on the a classified

2032
02:12:38,850 --> 02:12:42,000
aspect of the communication.
Technology. Do you remember

2033
02:12:42,000 --> 02:12:46,680
that? Yeah. Yeah. I don't know
if she got in trouble for that.

2034
02:12:47,130 --> 02:12:49,530
Unknown: But yeah, I know you.
You know where I think you

2035
02:12:49,530 --> 02:12:53,490
asked, you also asked that when
we went down and we took that.

2036
02:12:56,370 --> 02:13:00,720
Then we take a tour on a on a
navy ship, and you started

2037
02:13:00,720 --> 02:13:04,920
asking the guy classified
questions or something.

2038
02:13:04,950 --> 02:13:07,470
John Greenewald: Yeah, that to
me that was that was in San

2039
02:13:07,470 --> 02:13:10,920
Diego. I think we did that that
ship. Now. The one was at your

2040
02:13:10,920 --> 02:13:13,680
work, because I was afraid I got
you in trouble. It was in one of

2041
02:13:13,680 --> 02:13:16,860
the conference centers. And they
were able to tap into the

2042
02:13:16,860 --> 02:13:21,030
shuttle. They were able to
communicate with Houston or

2043
02:13:21,510 --> 02:13:22,170
Florida.

2044
02:13:22,200 --> 02:13:26,790
Unknown: Yeah, they they could.
Well, every lunch was monitored

2045
02:13:27,270 --> 02:13:30,870
in a control room, you know,
actually in the main building

2046
02:13:30,870 --> 02:13:36,510
there. And that actually is now
in the museum. Remember when we

2047
02:13:36,510 --> 02:13:42,990
want to see the enterprise? And
the enterprise the endeavor?

2048
02:13:43,020 --> 02:13:46,890
Yeah. And they had that whole
control panel that came out of

2049
02:13:47,610 --> 02:13:51,840
the main building that they
would monitor every launch from

2050
02:13:52,800 --> 02:13:57,780
and what have you got another
second friend? A guy can tell

2051
02:13:57,780 --> 02:13:58,920
them a little story? Yeah,

2052
02:13:59,250 --> 02:14:00,030
I've got Oh, come

2053
02:14:00,540 --> 02:14:01,530
on house when you came.

2054
02:14:01,560 --> 02:14:03,150
John Greenewald: Yeah, this is a
pleasant surprise.

2055
02:14:03,870 --> 02:14:09,360
Unknown: Well, when when I got
drawn to come in for for bring

2056
02:14:09,360 --> 02:14:16,020
your kid to work day, I had a
special a special part that I

2057
02:14:16,020 --> 02:14:21,450
asked my boss to hold for a day
until john was there. And it was

2058
02:14:21,450 --> 02:14:29,040
the it was the replica manifold
of the X 33 main injector

2059
02:14:29,040 --> 02:14:34,200
manifold. And I had it all set
up. And john and I welded it

2060
02:14:34,200 --> 02:14:41,220
together. And it was then x
rayed and approved for the

2061
02:14:42,120 --> 02:14:47,100
procedure to weld the main
manifolds on the X 33 engines

2062
02:14:47,100 --> 02:14:52,590
which were called the linear
aerospike. So john is actually

2063
02:14:52,590 --> 02:14:58,920
welded on things that were used
for space and I believe that

2064
02:14:58,920 --> 02:15:06,240
little manifold that we, that we
welded, john was assembled into

2065
02:15:06,990 --> 02:15:11,940
a smaller size engine. And it
was mounted to the back of an X,

2066
02:15:12,630 --> 02:15:19,740
the XR seven s r 71. And, and
actually actually flown to do

2067
02:15:19,740 --> 02:15:26,670
test for the X 33. Wow,
unfortunately, the X 33 program

2068
02:15:26,670 --> 02:15:33,180
was cancelled, and it was had
failures and part of the

2069
02:15:33,180 --> 02:15:39,060
fuselage and the fuel tanks
leaking. So that was, was a

2070
02:15:39,060 --> 02:15:43,620
great program, but it never made
it made it you know, off the

2071
02:15:43,620 --> 02:15:47,130
ground, it was cancelled. But
john got to well, the actual

2072
02:15:47,130 --> 02:15:51,690
manifolds that approved the
welding for those engines.

2073
02:15:52,050 --> 02:15:54,570
John Greenewald: It will what
was cool, just to point out is

2074
02:15:54,570 --> 02:15:59,130
that you used robots, you did a
lot of manual welding. But you

2075
02:15:59,490 --> 02:16:03,030
even years and years and years
ago, but like on I think you You

2076
02:16:03,030 --> 02:16:06,870
said that they were like 286
processors, but would use these

2077
02:16:06,870 --> 02:16:10,680
gigantic robots. And you would
program in the welds, and you

2078
02:16:10,680 --> 02:16:13,380
would do the welds that way,
which was fascinating to me,

2079
02:16:13,380 --> 02:16:17,820
because I'm a computer geek, and
not to embarrass you, you get

2080
02:16:17,820 --> 02:16:21,600
lost in like Microsoft Word. And
then I went to work with you.

2081
02:16:21,930 --> 02:16:25,200
And then you're like programming
these, you know, robots and

2082
02:16:25,200 --> 02:16:28,710
welding, all this stuff that's
flying humans to space. And

2083
02:16:28,710 --> 02:16:33,210
like, Who's this guy? I don't
know who this guy is. Which was,

2084
02:16:33,270 --> 02:16:35,640
which was always fun. I thought
you were going to tell the story

2085
02:16:35,640 --> 02:16:41,100
about the part that was on that
big robot arm that you moved.

2086
02:16:41,370 --> 02:16:44,250
And you found out later, it
wasn't strapped down? Should I

2087
02:16:44,250 --> 02:16:48,540
say that? What's that? Now? I'd
say that when you move that big

2088
02:16:48,540 --> 02:16:52,980
arm and you had that gigantic
piece on it. I make me maybe

2089
02:16:52,980 --> 02:16:55,500
getting you in trouble and you
moved it. It was like a big

2090
02:16:55,500 --> 02:16:58,350
crane in it. I don't know if
you're watching me right now.

2091
02:16:58,350 --> 02:17:01,410
But it kind of would go up to
the side and you'd pretty much

2092
02:17:01,410 --> 02:17:04,140
be able to move it to do
different welds in different

2093
02:17:04,140 --> 02:17:04,710
angles.

2094
02:17:05,219 --> 02:17:07,559
Unknown: Oh, that's the the big
robot though. Yeah.

2095
02:17:07,590 --> 02:17:10,350
John Greenewald: Do you remember
that that day? When? Yeah, I

2096
02:17:10,350 --> 02:17:12,120
shouldn't have admitted that on
the air. Sorry.

2097
02:17:13,469 --> 02:17:15,869
Unknown: Well, there was always
some mistakes made here and

2098
02:17:15,869 --> 02:17:17,009
there. Yeah. Well,

2099
02:17:17,010 --> 02:17:19,080
John Greenewald: nothing
happened on that day. But no, no

2100
02:17:19,080 --> 02:17:21,480
thanks. Thankfully, you were
perfect with every weld that you

2101
02:17:21,480 --> 02:17:23,610
did. But well,

2102
02:17:23,609 --> 02:17:27,449
Unknown: I wish but yeah, I was
very lucky to work where I

2103
02:17:27,449 --> 02:17:32,939
worked. And it was always fun
when we had open houses for the,

2104
02:17:33,689 --> 02:17:38,099
for the public because people
got to see things that you know,

2105
02:17:38,099 --> 02:17:42,569
we've never gone through a plant
like that. It's amazing. I mean,

2106
02:17:43,439 --> 02:17:46,559
30 years I was there and parts
of it's still amazing.

2107
02:17:47,040 --> 02:17:50,370
John Greenewald: Yeah. And you
were just to kind of close it

2108
02:17:50,370 --> 02:17:57,030
off. You were awarded the Snoopy
award. Can you tell everybody

2109
02:17:57,030 --> 02:17:57,870
what that is?

2110
02:17:59,100 --> 02:18:03,750
Unknown: Now the silver Snoopy
award is awarded, not by my

2111
02:18:03,750 --> 02:18:08,910
company or Rocketdyne it's
awarded by NASA. And when I was

2112
02:18:08,910 --> 02:18:14,730
awarded mine with medal Federer
I worked with, we were given our

2113
02:18:14,730 --> 02:18:19,890
award by the commander of the
return to flight space shuttle

2114
02:18:20,370 --> 02:18:28,110
flight. And I went to see that
that returned to flight landing

2115
02:18:28,110 --> 02:18:36,210
with john and his sister. And it
was a school field trip. So that

2116
02:18:36,210 --> 02:18:40,740
was really that was really fun
for me that the the commander

2117
02:18:40,740 --> 02:18:45,720
that gave me my award was the
one that piloted the first

2118
02:18:46,320 --> 02:18:50,190
shuttle flight after the
challenger. And we got to go see

2119
02:18:50,190 --> 02:18:56,310
that the dry lake and that was
just never thought I'd seen so

2120
02:18:56,310 --> 02:19:00,300
many motorhomes and people in my
life, there was something like

2121
02:19:00,690 --> 02:19:06,180
500,000 people that were out
there, we camped out for the

2122
02:19:06,180 --> 02:19:11,850
night. And it just was, it was
really something it really was a

2123
02:19:12,570 --> 02:19:17,880
experience. And thing came in
and the sonic booms went off.

2124
02:19:18,810 --> 02:19:23,160
And we just had a great time
with that.

2125
02:19:23,189 --> 02:19:26,129
John Greenewald: Yeah, I missed
I missed the shuttle. You know,

2126
02:19:26,129 --> 02:19:31,139
I missed those. The not only
seeing it in the very few times

2127
02:19:31,139 --> 02:19:34,199
that I did, but I'm just talking
about on television, seeing it

2128
02:19:34,199 --> 02:19:38,219
and miss that whole program and
the passion behind it. I hope

2129
02:19:38,219 --> 02:19:42,569
they I hope they do something
like I don't think there's plans

2130
02:19:42,569 --> 02:19:45,089
for it, but I hope they do
something like that. Again, you

2131
02:19:45,089 --> 02:19:48,569
know that that gets people
passionate about going to the

2132
02:19:48,569 --> 02:19:53,069
stars that it's not for funny,
not for money or not for a

2133
02:19:53,069 --> 02:19:57,569
celebrity to pay millions of
dollars to go, but to have them

2134
02:19:57,569 --> 02:20:00,359
have a reason to go you know,
and there's so much More to

2135
02:20:00,359 --> 02:20:04,199
explore and not to put a damper
on it. But humanity's got to get

2136
02:20:04,199 --> 02:20:07,439
off this blue rock eventually.
So, you know, we're gonna have

2137
02:20:07,439 --> 02:20:11,039
to figure it out. So you know
eventually this planet's gonna

2138
02:20:11,039 --> 02:20:15,929
go could put So yeah, I hope
they go back to it but I will

2139
02:20:15,929 --> 02:20:20,549
say this as as a closing thought
as I see this the chat stream

2140
02:20:20,819 --> 02:20:26,249
through, you're a hit and people
want you to come back and tell

2141
02:20:26,249 --> 02:20:30,959
us more store and you tell us
more stories. So will you do

2142
02:20:31,019 --> 02:20:33,809
that deal? All right, well that
didn't take much convincing. I

2143
02:20:33,809 --> 02:20:37,499
thought you were gonna ask for a
barbecue or Philemon Jaan or

2144
02:20:37,499 --> 02:20:40,679
something like that? Well, we
could do that. Alright, well

2145
02:20:40,679 --> 02:20:43,229
then that's that's a deal. Well,
we'll just live stream it from

2146
02:20:43,229 --> 02:20:46,889
the patio, so that'll be
perfect. But then, you know, I'm

2147
02:20:46,889 --> 02:20:49,529
not trying to cut you off. I'm
gonna have to cut the stream

2148
02:20:49,529 --> 02:20:54,569
here. But I really, I'm glad you
called then I know that

2149
02:20:54,569 --> 02:20:57,809
everybody in the chat and
everything is happy as well.

2150
02:20:58,319 --> 02:21:01,049
Unknown: Yeah, me too. I first
time caller

2151
02:21:01,079 --> 02:21:03,119
John Greenewald: first first
time not the last time either.

2152
02:21:03,149 --> 02:21:05,909
So tell mom, tell mom. Hi. Love
you guys.

2153
02:21:06,149 --> 02:21:07,679
Unknown: She's listening in the
other room?

2154
02:21:07,859 --> 02:21:09,869
John Greenewald: Oh, good. She's
probably gonna hit you about

2155
02:21:09,869 --> 02:21:17,219
something. See? All right, love.
You guys will love you. Alright,

2156
02:21:17,219 --> 02:21:22,259
that's my dad. I that was not
planned. So you know, that's,

2157
02:21:22,379 --> 02:21:28,679
that's, that's that's the man
the myth, the legend. So yeah, I

2158
02:21:29,549 --> 02:21:32,369
I'm glad he called it. And
that's a good a good way to end.

2159
02:21:32,609 --> 02:21:37,079
And I'm sorry. For those that
were on hold. I'm seeing that

2160
02:21:37,079 --> 02:21:41,219
there are more people coming in.
I apologize. We've been on for

2161
02:21:41,219 --> 02:21:44,519
about two and a half hours. And
so they're a little bit longer

2162
02:21:44,519 --> 02:21:47,459
than I expected. But I just
wanted to say thank you, to all

2163
02:21:47,459 --> 02:21:50,189
of you for tuning in. Thanks to
my dad, obviously, for calling

2164
02:21:50,429 --> 02:21:54,149
all of the super chats, I
believe, through the last 1015

2165
02:21:54,149 --> 02:21:57,029
minutes. I miss some I'm gonna
go back. I'm gonna find a way to

2166
02:21:57,029 --> 02:21:59,309
contact you guys. And thank you
and answer any questions you

2167
02:21:59,309 --> 02:22:04,409
have. I apologize for missing
any of those. But thank you all,

2168
02:22:04,649 --> 02:22:07,979
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02:22:07,979 --> 02:22:11,399
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2172
02:22:18,629 --> 02:22:21,329
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2173
02:22:21,329 --> 02:22:23,999
are short form, some are long
form all sorts of different

2174
02:22:23,999 --> 02:22:26,699
content. This summer has been a
little bit challenging just

2175
02:22:26,699 --> 02:22:29,579
because my seven year old son
has been off for summer

2176
02:22:29,579 --> 02:22:33,149
vacation. So recordings been a
little bit challenging, schedule

2177
02:22:33,149 --> 02:22:36,749
wise. And obviously, my wife is
in a COVID unit at a hospital

2178
02:22:36,749 --> 02:22:39,839
that we all have increasing
numbers right now in Los

2179
02:22:39,839 --> 02:22:43,169
Angeles. So schedule has been a
little bit crazy. But she's on

2180
02:22:43,169 --> 02:22:46,859
her way home. She was in the
COVID unit all day today. So I'm

2181
02:22:46,859 --> 02:22:50,339
going to go get her some dinner
and have a good night. But thank

2182
02:22:50,339 --> 02:22:52,679
you again for all of your
support. And lastly, if you feel

2183
02:22:52,679 --> 02:22:58,199
so inclined, I do have a Patreon
100% of super chats or Patreon.

2184
02:22:58,559 --> 02:23:01,589
They all go into this channel or
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2185
02:23:01,589 --> 02:23:05,729
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100% goes to supporting all of

2186
02:23:05,729 --> 02:23:08,639
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2187
02:23:08,639 --> 02:23:12,869
well on the black vault.com.
Just look on the right hand side

2188
02:23:12,869 --> 02:23:15,569
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2189
02:23:15,599 --> 02:23:18,839
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2190
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any government secret you can
imagine. So with that being said

2191
02:23:22,289 --> 02:23:25,289
thank you all again. This is
John Greenewald Jr signing off,

2192
02:23:25,409 --> 02:23:26,519
and we'll see you next time.