1 00:00:03,540 --> 00:00:05,490 John Greenewald: Hey everybody, John Greenewald. Here with an 2 00:00:05,520 --> 00:00:09,240 update. That's a little bit unexpected. I would say in this 3 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,480 last week, the Department of Defense had sent an email to 4 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,210 myself and quite a few others, I don't know how many are on the 5 00:00:15,450 --> 00:00:19,500 mailing list. But they gave us all a heads up about a new 6 00:00:19,500 --> 00:00:24,360 office, essentially, the successor to the UAP Task Force, 7 00:00:24,750 --> 00:00:28,470 which is now entitled The airborne object identification 8 00:00:28,710 --> 00:00:34,500 and management synchronization group, or a OIMS G, which 9 00:00:34,500 --> 00:00:38,220 replaces again, the UAP task force. Now for those who are not 10 00:00:38,220 --> 00:00:42,150 following this all the time, the UAP task forces that group, that 11 00:00:42,150 --> 00:00:46,560 internal group, from the Department of Defense run by the 12 00:00:47,100 --> 00:00:49,710 Department of the Navy that essentially looks into 13 00:00:49,980 --> 00:00:54,510 unidentified aerial phenomena, or UFOs. Now, we've heard very 14 00:00:54,510 --> 00:00:57,930 little about it, in the sense that they're very secretive, 15 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:02,910 they are keeping all of the UFO cases hidden. We don't know how 16 00:01:02,910 --> 00:01:07,230 many there really are. We do know, the June of this year of 17 00:01:07,230 --> 00:01:13,080 2021, the June report had talked about 144 cases that went into 18 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:16,440 the development of that report. So essentially, they were 19 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:21,510 analyzing that number. But we don't know if that was 10% 100% 20 00:01:21,750 --> 00:01:26,820 a fraction of a penny a fraction of a percent, not a penny. But 21 00:01:26,820 --> 00:01:30,330 we don't know you know how many there are, and how many that 22 00:01:30,330 --> 00:01:34,350 they've looked at the 144 number was kind of a surprise, because 23 00:01:34,350 --> 00:01:39,960 143 of them, according to them remained unidentified, and so 24 00:01:39,990 --> 00:01:43,140 there was no answer to them. So that a little bit was a 25 00:01:43,140 --> 00:01:47,760 surprise. I'll get into the memo. But that report then 26 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:53,670 sparked a few other things in motion, which is the news of the 27 00:01:53,670 --> 00:01:59,100 day. Now let me pull up that that message that we got with 28 00:01:59,100 --> 00:02:04,260 the DoD was accompanied by this memorandum. Now I'm going to 29 00:02:04,260 --> 00:02:06,600 read this to you because I'm going to drop this to audio form 30 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:08,910 two for those of you who are listening on the podcast, just 31 00:02:08,910 --> 00:02:13,710 know I do these live so go to the black vault comm slash live, 32 00:02:13,890 --> 00:02:17,010 that will bounce you to the YouTube channel. And that way 33 00:02:17,010 --> 00:02:19,800 maybe next time, you can get involved and use the call in 34 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:23,820 lines and, and and have fun in a live setting. But I'm going to 35 00:02:23,820 --> 00:02:26,700 go ahead and read this to you because it's an important, it's 36 00:02:26,700 --> 00:02:29,790 a little over a page so it won't take too long. But I think that 37 00:02:29,820 --> 00:02:34,260 this will give the best understanding over what they are 38 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:40,320 announcing now the memo itself is November 23 2021. This was a 39 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:43,230 memorandum for the senior Pentagon leadership commanders 40 00:02:43,230 --> 00:02:45,840 of the combatant commands, Defense Agency and field 41 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:46,950 activity directors, 42 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:51,150 the subject establishment of the airborne object identification 43 00:02:51,150 --> 00:02:55,650 and management synchronization group. It's a tongue twister, 44 00:02:56,190 --> 00:02:59,640 the presence of unidentified aerial phenomena or UAP. In 45 00:02:59,640 --> 00:03:05,670 special use airspace or su a designated in accordance with 14 46 00:03:05,850 --> 00:03:10,170 CFR Part 73 represents a potential safety of flight risk 47 00:03:10,170 --> 00:03:13,350 to air crews and raises potential national national 48 00:03:13,350 --> 00:03:18,630 security concerns. Accordingly, I direct the Undersecretary of 49 00:03:18,630 --> 00:03:21,990 Defense for intelligence, intelligence and security to 50 00:03:21,990 --> 00:03:26,040 establish the airborne object identification and management 51 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:29,580 synchronization group to synchronize efforts across the 52 00:03:29,580 --> 00:03:32,820 department and with other federal departments and agencies 53 00:03:32,820 --> 00:03:37,590 to detect, identify and attribute objects of interest in 54 00:03:37,590 --> 00:03:42,750 ES UAS and to assess and as appropriate mitigate any 55 00:03:42,780 --> 00:03:47,640 associated threats to safety of flight and national security. To 56 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:52,260 provide oversight and direction to the aeoi MSG, I established 57 00:03:52,260 --> 00:03:55,950 the airborne object identification and management 58 00:03:55,980 --> 00:04:02,310 executive council or aeoi. Me X EC. I laugh because these 59 00:04:02,310 --> 00:04:07,860 acronyms are out of control. The US di N S will be the lead DoD 60 00:04:07,860 --> 00:04:11,130 official responsible for management of this process will 61 00:04:11,130 --> 00:04:15,750 co chair the aeoi me FCC along with the Director of Operations 62 00:04:15,750 --> 00:04:19,200 Joint Staff and will invite principle level participation 63 00:04:19,380 --> 00:04:21,900 from the Office of the Director of National Intelligence. 64 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,320 Resourcing for this requirement will be addressed in the program 65 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:30,780 budget review process. The director aeoi MSG, hereafter 66 00:04:30,780 --> 00:04:35,010 referred to as the director will synchronize the activities among 67 00:04:35,010 --> 00:04:39,180 the Office of the Secretary of Defense and DOD components, and 68 00:04:39,180 --> 00:04:41,970 with other US government departments and agencies to 69 00:04:41,970 --> 00:04:46,770 minimize safety of flight and national security concerns 70 00:04:47,100 --> 00:04:52,770 associated with UAP or other airborne objects. And SEPA. The 71 00:04:52,770 --> 00:04:56,880 director with support from the OSD and DOD component leads will 72 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,850 address this problem by standardizing UAP Incident 73 00:04:59,850 --> 00:05:02,790 Record ports across the department, identifying and 74 00:05:02,790 --> 00:05:05,910 reducing gaps in operational intelligence detection 75 00:05:05,910 --> 00:05:09,420 capabilities, collecting and analyzing operational 76 00:05:09,420 --> 00:05:11,310 intelligence and counterintelligence data, 77 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:15,030 collecting and analyzing statutory changes as 78 00:05:15,030 --> 00:05:18,210 appropriate. Identifying approaches to prevent or 79 00:05:18,210 --> 00:05:21,420 mitigate any risks posed by airborne objects of interest, 80 00:05:21,690 --> 00:05:24,840 and other activities as deemed necessary by the director. 81 00:05:25,710 --> 00:05:29,220 Additionally, the director in coordination with the OSD and 82 00:05:29,220 --> 00:05:33,000 DOD component leads or heads, I should say, will identify 83 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,760 requirements and recommended changes and doctrine, 84 00:05:35,970 --> 00:05:40,140 organization training material leadership, personnel, workforce 85 00:05:40,140 --> 00:05:46,410 facilities, and resources to be brought to the aeoi me FCC for 86 00:05:46,410 --> 00:05:50,400 review consideration and implementation as appropriate by 87 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:55,080 the applicable DoD component head. Effective immediately the 88 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:59,730 aeoi Emmy FCC, in coordination with the OSD and DOD component 89 00:05:59,730 --> 00:06:04,620 heads will manage the transition of the current UAP task force to 90 00:06:04,620 --> 00:06:10,650 the aeoi MSG, the aeoi me x EC, will designate an active 91 00:06:10,650 --> 00:06:14,820 director of the aeoi MSG, and we'll submit implementation 92 00:06:14,820 --> 00:06:18,390 guidance for my approval. This guidance will specify 93 00:06:18,390 --> 00:06:21,630 organizational membership roles, responsibilities, and 94 00:06:21,630 --> 00:06:27,090 authorities for the aeoi MSG, a y mx, EC, and OSD and DOD 95 00:06:27,090 --> 00:06:31,800 components, Kathleen Hicks, and it was CC to the Director of 96 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:32,730 National Intelligence. 97 00:06:34,649 --> 00:06:39,839 Man Oh, man, those acronyms are out of control. And yes, I truly 98 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,629 believe at this point, the acronyms are so out of control 99 00:06:42,629 --> 00:06:46,799 by design. That way, it makes it incredibly hard for all of us to 100 00:06:46,799 --> 00:06:51,329 continue to talk about it. UFOs are pretty much rolling off the 101 00:06:51,329 --> 00:06:57,329 tongue UAPs just as easy to talk about a tip or SAP. Yeah, those 102 00:06:57,329 --> 00:06:59,549 are pretty easy to reference. Now you're getting into all 103 00:06:59,549 --> 00:07:03,149 these other ones that are just outrageously long. And from a 104 00:07:03,149 --> 00:07:06,959 research standpoint, when you constantly change the 105 00:07:06,959 --> 00:07:10,709 terminology, it makes researching and investigation 106 00:07:10,739 --> 00:07:15,179 that much harder for people like myself. So in other words, if 107 00:07:15,179 --> 00:07:18,779 you keep changing the program name, the offices who's in 108 00:07:18,779 --> 00:07:24,269 charge, your paper trail is fractured, into 12,000 different 109 00:07:24,269 --> 00:07:29,369 directions. And that is by design. I mean, we can clearly 110 00:07:29,399 --> 00:07:34,199 establish a cover up and can comfortably do so with evidence 111 00:07:34,619 --> 00:07:38,459 that has been legally obtained. Not anything leaked, we can 112 00:07:38,459 --> 00:07:41,699 prove that beyond any shadow of a doubt, and it stretches back 113 00:07:41,789 --> 00:07:46,769 decades. Now what we're seeing is a mess. I mean, it's an 114 00:07:46,769 --> 00:07:52,229 absolute, utter mess. And with this change, albeit it is very 115 00:07:52,229 --> 00:07:57,149 exciting, makes it incredibly difficult to try and figure out 116 00:07:57,299 --> 00:08:02,099 what in the world is going on in the sense that who's in charge 117 00:08:02,099 --> 00:08:06,629 at this point, who now do the UFO UAP reports go to. And when 118 00:08:06,629 --> 00:08:10,199 you fracture that paper trail, it makes it more challenging. 119 00:08:10,709 --> 00:08:13,769 Now I always say challenge accepted, I love that kind of 120 00:08:13,769 --> 00:08:17,399 stuff. But a lot of people will give up, give up talking about 121 00:08:17,399 --> 00:08:19,679 it, because they're so frustrated because it becomes so 122 00:08:19,679 --> 00:08:23,609 confusing, or give up because it does become incredibly 123 00:08:23,969 --> 00:08:27,689 challenging to track down and trace down exactly where all of 124 00:08:27,689 --> 00:08:31,589 this is going. And when it is changing every couple of years. 125 00:08:31,589 --> 00:08:37,289 Now, that makes it that much more difficult. Now, that's kind 126 00:08:37,289 --> 00:08:41,249 of the the bad thing about this. But also there's a very much a 127 00:08:41,249 --> 00:08:45,059 positive thing about this. And that is the fact that they are 128 00:08:45,059 --> 00:08:49,949 creating this office, that this seems to be a more permanent UAP 129 00:08:49,949 --> 00:08:54,089 task force, so to speak. And something that will give me a 130 00:08:54,119 --> 00:08:59,099 paper trail, at least a fracture part of the paper trail, but a 131 00:08:59,099 --> 00:09:02,579 paper trail nonetheless, that they will be taking these UAP 132 00:09:02,579 --> 00:09:05,609 reports in that they will be taking them seriously that they 133 00:09:05,609 --> 00:09:09,269 will be looking into them. There will be an office that is 134 00:09:09,269 --> 00:09:14,129 established just for this. That is the good thing. So when we 135 00:09:14,129 --> 00:09:18,029 hone in on the recent developments, that paper trail 136 00:09:18,029 --> 00:09:21,869 leads to one office, at least for now, where my challenge 137 00:09:21,869 --> 00:09:25,199 comes in. And that's where the challenging part is, is that 138 00:09:25,199 --> 00:09:28,199 when you instead of focusing on just recent developments, and 139 00:09:28,199 --> 00:09:31,799 let's say go back to the last 510 to 15 years, you can see a 140 00:09:31,799 --> 00:09:35,669 much more fractured paper trail so it gets more challenging to 141 00:09:35,999 --> 00:09:39,149 essentially track stuff down. Now there's a lot of rumors, 142 00:09:39,149 --> 00:09:44,189 speculation, some positive spin, some negative spin, some really 143 00:09:44,189 --> 00:09:47,579 upset people out there. And if you use social media, you'll see 144 00:09:47,579 --> 00:09:51,629 the bigger names chiming in on what their different stances 145 00:09:51,869 --> 00:09:55,679 are. Now I'll be honest with you, although I do have a stance 146 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,589 and we can get into this a little bit. None of us are 147 00:09:58,589 --> 00:10:02,249 fortune tellers. None of you watching well, maybe a couple of 148 00:10:02,249 --> 00:10:04,649 you give me a call. I mean, I can, I can always use some 149 00:10:04,649 --> 00:10:08,579 psychics, but none of us know what really is ultimately going 150 00:10:08,579 --> 00:10:14,819 to happen. And what what I kind of I used the word entertaining 151 00:10:14,819 --> 00:10:18,689 the other day, and I'll get into that tweet. And boy that upset a 152 00:10:18,689 --> 00:10:22,709 lot of people. But for me, it is entertaining, where we're people 153 00:10:22,709 --> 00:10:25,409 are acting as those fortune tellers, that they know what's 154 00:10:25,409 --> 00:10:29,069 going to happen that if this happens, or that happens, then 155 00:10:29,069 --> 00:10:31,709 this is going to happen. Well, none of us know. Right? I mean, 156 00:10:31,709 --> 00:10:35,759 we just don't, we have to go step by step and figure out what 157 00:10:35,759 --> 00:10:39,059 is going on. And this is a positive development, in the 158 00:10:39,059 --> 00:10:43,109 sense that it is concrete. It has happened, it does not 159 00:10:43,109 --> 00:10:47,039 require a future vote. There's no speculation here on Will it 160 00:10:47,039 --> 00:10:52,169 happen? No, it has happened. And and that's how my mindset is. 161 00:10:52,169 --> 00:10:54,959 And I think that that gets me in trouble with some people. Were 162 00:10:54,959 --> 00:11:00,059 they hate that I look at the now versus pretend I know what's 163 00:11:00,059 --> 00:11:02,789 going to happen tomorrow. And I think that that's what a lot a 164 00:11:02,819 --> 00:11:04,499 lot of people are doing right now, 165 00:11:04,560 --> 00:11:07,440 we don't know how this is going to unfold. But there is one 166 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:11,610 thing I can promise you that I would bet money on. And that is 167 00:11:11,610 --> 00:11:14,880 going to be secrecy. And and I think that the secrecy will 168 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:19,650 prevail, no matter what, in this topic, it just will it I mean, 169 00:11:19,680 --> 00:11:24,060 this is not something that is getting easier, but rather it is 170 00:11:24,060 --> 00:11:29,100 getting harder. Now going back to the to the formation of this 171 00:11:29,100 --> 00:11:33,600 new again, we'll call it UAP Task Force successor. This goes 172 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,720 all the way back to the June report. And I think some people 173 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:42,570 forgot about this. And that is the June 25 memo that was also 174 00:11:42,570 --> 00:11:45,360 signed by the same Kathleen Hicks Deputy Secretary of 175 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:50,880 Defense to essentially take that UAP report. And within the DOD 176 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:56,400 take the next step on creating and and formulating an effort 177 00:11:56,400 --> 00:12:00,660 like this. There's a lot of speculation that it is attacking 178 00:12:00,870 --> 00:12:03,570 Kiersten Gela brand and her amendment that's now sponsored 179 00:12:03,570 --> 00:12:09,360 by a couple other senators. I don't see it that way. And the 180 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:13,260 reason is, is the paper trail shows that here I mean, I'll 181 00:12:13,260 --> 00:12:17,400 show you here on screen. I won't read the whole thing for you on 182 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:20,400 this one. But this is the June 25 memo signed by Kathleen 183 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:26,940 Hicks. And she had asked for the following to be established 184 00:12:26,970 --> 00:12:29,100 number one established procedures to synchronize 185 00:12:29,100 --> 00:12:32,460 collection, reporting and analysis on the UAP problem set 186 00:12:32,670 --> 00:12:36,120 and to establish recommendations for securing military test and 187 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:39,360 training ranges. Number two identify requirements for the 188 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:43,140 establishment and operation of the new activity to include the 189 00:12:43,140 --> 00:12:46,050 organization alignment, resources and staffing required, 190 00:12:46,260 --> 00:12:49,560 as well as any necessary authorities and a timeline for 191 00:12:49,560 --> 00:12:53,370 implementation. Number three be developed in coordination with 192 00:12:53,370 --> 00:12:55,860 the principal staff assistants, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs 193 00:12:55,860 --> 00:12:58,830 of Staff, the secretaries of the military departments, and the 194 00:12:58,830 --> 00:13:01,770 commanders of the combatant commands. And with the DNI and 195 00:13:01,770 --> 00:13:04,740 other relevant interagency partners. Essentially, she was 196 00:13:04,740 --> 00:13:09,750 saying, hey, we need to create a much more established procedure. 197 00:13:09,780 --> 00:13:14,490 And that is the result of this. Was it an attack on Kirsten 198 00:13:14,490 --> 00:13:21,570 Gillibrand and her, essentially, her effort to try and better 199 00:13:21,570 --> 00:13:25,740 inform the general public with some transparency, but also 200 00:13:25,740 --> 00:13:29,340 better tackle the UAP issue, which she felt feel felt is very 201 00:13:29,340 --> 00:13:34,590 important, hence why she created the language. So I don't see it 202 00:13:34,590 --> 00:13:37,290 that way, just simply because the paper trail doesn't lie. The 203 00:13:37,290 --> 00:13:41,100 paper trail shows in June, that they were aiming to establish 204 00:13:41,100 --> 00:13:44,790 something like this. The timing, which I know some people are 205 00:13:44,790 --> 00:13:48,270 saying, well, this is a clear attack on Gillibrand and her 206 00:13:48,270 --> 00:13:51,720 efforts. And they're trying they meaning the Pentagon and the DoD 207 00:13:51,900 --> 00:13:56,880 are essentially trying to clamp down and solidify that they are 208 00:13:56,910 --> 00:14:00,300 at the helm of this and that they will continue the secrecy. 209 00:14:01,890 --> 00:14:05,190 I just don't don't see it that way. Let me pull this question 210 00:14:05,580 --> 00:14:09,390 from Sky Hawk 88. And sky hawk. Thank you so much for supporting 211 00:14:09,390 --> 00:14:12,330 the channel, John, with this as the Pentagon trying to 212 00:14:12,330 --> 00:14:15,600 circumvent pending legislation oversight via Senate Senator 213 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,660 Jilla brands amendment. So obviously, I'm getting into that 214 00:14:18,660 --> 00:14:22,110 but sky Hawk, I did want to show my appreciation for your support 215 00:14:22,110 --> 00:14:26,850 of the channel. And and to better expand on it. 216 00:14:28,170 --> 00:14:31,290 I don't see it just simply because going back to that paper 217 00:14:31,290 --> 00:14:35,250 trail, the paper trail doesn't lie, the timing with the Jilla 218 00:14:35,250 --> 00:14:37,920 brand amendment and how it's kind of been rewritten a couple 219 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:41,040 times, and so on and so forth. That's obviously going on right 220 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:46,170 now. And and the timing seems strange. In the same respect. I 221 00:14:46,380 --> 00:14:52,710 find the timing expected dropped the news by the DoD on a holiday 222 00:14:52,710 --> 00:14:58,380 week. At like, I think it was like 6:30pm When that when I got 223 00:14:58,380 --> 00:15:02,850 it in California. So They dropped at about 930 or so, 224 00:15:03,510 --> 00:15:08,520 Eastern Time, Pentagon time. That to me is the humorous part. 225 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:12,420 That's the timing. So on Friday nights, you see a lot of stuff 226 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:17,070 dropped more bombs, Shelley, you know, headlines that are going 227 00:15:17,070 --> 00:15:22,320 to arise from this, you see that on holidays. So you see that 228 00:15:22,350 --> 00:15:26,670 obviously with something a UAP, or UFO related, so they do that 229 00:15:26,670 --> 00:15:31,080 Thanksgiving week, or new cycles are kind of dead. You know, you 230 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:34,860 see the major newscasters, they're all on vacation, those 231 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:38,040 that are doing the same news programmes are all kind of the, 232 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:41,640 you know, the backup team, and so on. So it's because the 233 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:45,360 ratings are a lot lower during this week. So the attention that 234 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:49,620 it Garner's is a lot less. So the timing for me, and this is 235 00:15:49,620 --> 00:15:53,730 just my opinion. But this is proven by decade's worth of 236 00:15:53,730 --> 00:15:58,290 looking at these types of drops and, and and revelations given 237 00:15:58,290 --> 00:16:02,580 out by the Pentagon is that they plan it this way to do it on 238 00:16:02,580 --> 00:16:06,810 holiday weeks, and Friday nights and stuff where new cycles are 239 00:16:06,810 --> 00:16:11,400 either over or dead. And and that's what I think about the 240 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:15,210 timing on this other's felt that it was a shot at a jello brand 241 00:16:15,210 --> 00:16:19,050 and, and essentially her effort with this amendment. I don't see 242 00:16:19,050 --> 00:16:22,200 it that way. Again, none of us are fortune tellers, we really 243 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:27,090 don't know. But it is what it is. Now, one thing I'll bring up 244 00:16:27,330 --> 00:16:32,850 here, which I posted on on Twitter, and this is where it 245 00:16:32,850 --> 00:16:37,380 got a little bit. I think I've offended a couple people by 246 00:16:37,380 --> 00:16:40,590 saying that it was entertaining. Here's what I posted, watching 247 00:16:40,590 --> 00:16:43,800 the back and forth on who should control UAP research from within 248 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,500 the US government is entertaining. If you all think 249 00:16:46,500 --> 00:16:48,840 one side of the government will be more transparent than the 250 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:52,530 other, regardless of what branch they are, you haven't been 251 00:16:52,530 --> 00:16:57,330 paying attention. Now, this was, you know, more or less to create 252 00:16:57,510 --> 00:17:01,380 dialogue and conversation. But here was my overall point. And 253 00:17:01,380 --> 00:17:06,510 I'll get into a much expanded version. But But in short, the 254 00:17:06,510 --> 00:17:10,020 secrecy has been rampant from every corner of the government 255 00:17:10,020 --> 00:17:13,440 and military and has been for decades. And when you deal with 256 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:17,070 just the last couple of years, and just that we won't go back 257 00:17:17,070 --> 00:17:20,160 to, you know, the blue book era and Condon committee and all 258 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:25,230 that, just now, it's getting worse. And so just because 259 00:17:25,260 --> 00:17:28,980 congressmen, senators, politicians, whomever wants to 260 00:17:28,980 --> 00:17:33,870 say or create an effort to get transparency surrounding this 261 00:17:33,870 --> 00:17:37,770 issue, it doesn't mean that we will ultimately have the 262 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:43,080 absolute truth in the end. And although I am excited, I think 263 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:47,370 that the Jilla brand amendment is very worthwhile. It's very 264 00:17:47,370 --> 00:17:51,090 welcome. I want to see it pass. I want to see these yearly 265 00:17:51,090 --> 00:17:55,410 reports, we have to remember look at June as a provable 266 00:17:55,740 --> 00:18:00,450 documented example. And that documented example was a 267 00:18:00,450 --> 00:18:05,550 congressionally mandated report on UAPs. What did we learn? Did 268 00:18:05,550 --> 00:18:10,470 we learn nuggets? Absolutely. Was it helpful? Absolutely. Do 269 00:18:10,470 --> 00:18:13,590 we have what really is going on now? Do we understand? 270 00:18:13,620 --> 00:18:17,610 Absolutely not. So these yearly reports, let's say this all 271 00:18:17,610 --> 00:18:21,390 passes. Those would be great. Don't get me wrong. That's 272 00:18:21,420 --> 00:18:25,950 that's a big win. But I think a lot of people are framing this 273 00:18:25,950 --> 00:18:29,400 that. Well, if the Jilla brand amendment goes, we'll get much 274 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:33,780 more transparency. If the DoD handles it, then we'll get much 275 00:18:33,780 --> 00:18:36,630 more secrecy. I'm here to tell you, you're going to get the 276 00:18:36,630 --> 00:18:41,520 same level of secrecy no matter what. I honestly believe that 277 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:45,660 and I think that history and documentation proves that I am 278 00:18:45,660 --> 00:18:50,700 all for lifting the shroud of secrecy. But will it happen and 279 00:18:50,700 --> 00:18:52,080 give us the absolute truth? 280 00:18:52,110 --> 00:18:58,320 I just don't see it. Now to give you guys an alternative view. My 281 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:03,000 tweet was not directed at Mr. Luis Elizondo, although some 282 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:07,380 people of course tried to accuse me of like attacking his 283 00:19:07,380 --> 00:19:11,550 viewpoint. Truth be told, I had no idea that Mr. Elizondo had 284 00:19:11,550 --> 00:19:16,500 tweeted about it. I just put mine out there. And then of 285 00:19:16,500 --> 00:19:19,230 course, you know, twitterverse takes over and goes, you know, 286 00:19:19,230 --> 00:19:23,100 here you are going at Mr. Elizondo again, which I wasn't I 287 00:19:23,100 --> 00:19:26,370 didn't even know his viewpoint, but I felt it was interesting. 288 00:19:26,370 --> 00:19:28,470 So I wanted to read it to you guys. It was a little bit 289 00:19:28,500 --> 00:19:32,220 fractured. He tweets kind of a single tweet at a time he 290 00:19:32,220 --> 00:19:35,100 doesn't thread it. So what I did is I threaded it here for you. 291 00:19:37,590 --> 00:19:42,120 So here's a different take so you guys can can can see the 292 00:19:42,120 --> 00:19:45,600 alternative view. Again, this was posted by Luis Elizondo, 293 00:19:46,290 --> 00:19:50,760 November 24. Important update before anyone gets too excited 294 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:53,340 about the recent Pentagon announcement of a new UAP group. 295 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:58,170 Please consider the following Usdi is precisely the same 296 00:19:58,170 --> 00:20:00,660 organization that has underplayed and tried to kill 297 00:20:00,660 --> 00:20:05,100 the UAP effort for years. USDA is an oversight organization and 298 00:20:05,100 --> 00:20:09,030 non operational. Nowhere is there a requirement to provide 299 00:20:09,060 --> 00:20:12,420 unclassified findings to Congress or work with our 300 00:20:12,420 --> 00:20:16,020 international partners. Given that elements still exist in the 301 00:20:16,020 --> 00:20:18,750 Pentagon who are actively underplaying the significance of 302 00:20:18,750 --> 00:20:22,470 this topic, this is akin to giving an alcoholic the key and 303 00:20:22,470 --> 00:20:26,640 control to the liquor cabinet. If you want to maintain UFO UAP 304 00:20:26,670 --> 00:20:30,720 slash UFO secrecy, this is exactly how you do it. This is a 305 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,210 direct and blatant attempt to circumvent and undermine the 306 00:20:33,210 --> 00:20:38,790 Senate set and he tagged Senator Gillibrand Marco Rubio, Ruben 307 00:20:38,790 --> 00:20:44,310 Gallego, Martin Heinrich and Tim Burchett, Burchette. apologize 308 00:20:44,310 --> 00:20:47,340 if I mispronounce that, and others back to his quote, 309 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,490 please, please, please contact your representatives and let 310 00:20:50,490 --> 00:20:55,860 them know this is unacceptable, and not in the best interest of 311 00:20:55,860 --> 00:20:59,160 the American people. The USDA is the one single office that has 312 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,980 continually lied about this topic and persecuted 313 00:21:01,980 --> 00:21:06,330 whistleblowers. So that's kind of an alternative view. But 314 00:21:06,360 --> 00:21:10,110 where I would just respectfully disagree, the USDA is the one 315 00:21:10,110 --> 00:21:12,330 single office that has continuously lied about this 316 00:21:12,330 --> 00:21:14,940 topic and persecuted whistleblowers. I'm not really 317 00:21:14,940 --> 00:21:18,660 sure what whistleblowers were persecuted. So I'd love to see 318 00:21:18,660 --> 00:21:21,420 some expansion on that I believe Mr. Elizondo does not consider 319 00:21:21,420 --> 00:21:25,260 himself a whistleblower, even though the mainstream media has 320 00:21:25,260 --> 00:21:29,760 tagged him as such, I believe he has spoken out rather strongly 321 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:33,780 about that. But be that as it may, I'm not sure if he's 322 00:21:33,780 --> 00:21:37,770 referencing himself there or somebody else. But Usdi is the 323 00:21:37,770 --> 00:21:41,250 one single office that has continuously lied. The US 324 00:21:41,250 --> 00:21:43,650 government as a whole has continually lied about this 325 00:21:43,650 --> 00:21:47,460 topic and has for decades, it is backed up by press statements, 326 00:21:47,550 --> 00:21:50,550 spokespeople and documentation that has come out through the 327 00:21:50,550 --> 00:21:53,820 Freedom of Information Act, along with those that have come 328 00:21:53,820 --> 00:21:56,460 out and talked about their personal experiences in the 329 00:21:56,460 --> 00:21:59,940 military and what they've encountered. That said, it's not 330 00:21:59,940 --> 00:22:06,930 just Usdi. In addition, when you look at the the congressional 331 00:22:06,930 --> 00:22:10,350 side and the legislative branch, they are not that much better. 332 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:15,270 They there's a reason why during a campaign, they essentially 333 00:22:15,270 --> 00:22:17,940 preach about transparency. But once they get in, they sit on 334 00:22:17,940 --> 00:22:21,720 classified, sit in on classified settings all the time. Do they 335 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:25,020 tell you and I about it? Of course not. And the UAP issue is 336 00:22:25,020 --> 00:22:28,500 definitely one of those that they have talked about. And let 337 00:22:28,500 --> 00:22:32,910 me go ahead and read to you guys what I wrote in response to 338 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:40,560 essentially that the will call a backlash, I guess, for saying 339 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:44,430 that hey, look, there's this isn't a bad thing on what's 340 00:22:44,430 --> 00:22:47,430 going on, but it's not going to give us the the ultimate truth. 341 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:51,540 And here was my expansion on it. And I feel it's important to 342 00:22:51,540 --> 00:22:51,960 read. 343 00:22:53,250 --> 00:22:57,750 I know this tweet upset some. But let me add more to properly 344 00:22:57,750 --> 00:23:00,120 explain what I meant. legislative mandates, 345 00:23:00,120 --> 00:23:04,050 initiatives, bills, etc, are trumped by national security. I 346 00:23:04,050 --> 00:23:06,780 am excited to see how this all plays out when it comes to UAP 347 00:23:06,780 --> 00:23:11,460 transparency, but we need to be realistic. I posted yesterday 348 00:23:11,460 --> 00:23:15,390 about how the 1960s played out very similar to today. And we 349 00:23:15,390 --> 00:23:19,380 ended up with the Condon report, will this be the same? I'm no 350 00:23:19,380 --> 00:23:23,370 fortune teller, nor is anyone so who really knows I just to 351 00:23:23,370 --> 00:23:26,640 choose to be cautiously optimistic. But let me use a 352 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:31,350 modern non UFO example. President Trump who sat in the 353 00:23:31,350 --> 00:23:35,550 highest office of the land, had the desire to release all JFK 354 00:23:35,550 --> 00:23:39,030 assassination files. He had a history of rocking the boat in 355 00:23:39,030 --> 00:23:43,110 DC, and this appeared to be part of the intent. However, national 356 00:23:43,110 --> 00:23:47,670 security one in the end, and secrecy prevailed. Despite what 357 00:23:47,670 --> 00:23:51,720 you think of Trump, he rocked the boat plain and simple. So if 358 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:55,920 this was explosive, it would be him that would light the fuse, 359 00:23:56,370 --> 00:24:01,770 yet national security trumped even Trump. So being realistic 360 00:24:01,830 --> 00:24:05,430 is not pessimistic. It's just being real in the face of 361 00:24:05,430 --> 00:24:10,140 reality. Bringing it back to UFOs. politicians know the UAP 362 00:24:10,140 --> 00:24:14,670 UFO issue is hot, and will garner votes. Sorry, but we all 363 00:24:14,670 --> 00:24:18,150 need to admit that's true. So even the intent to have 364 00:24:18,150 --> 00:24:22,620 transparency will not magically Trump national security, but it 365 00:24:22,620 --> 00:24:26,160 will score them points with the voters. It's why senators slash 366 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,740 Congressman will preach transparency during the election 367 00:24:28,740 --> 00:24:32,040 season, but most will sit on committees that have numerous 368 00:24:32,190 --> 00:24:36,120 classified setting settings or sessions that they never tell 369 00:24:36,120 --> 00:24:39,600 you or AI about. And some of those of late have been on the 370 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:44,190 UFO slash UAP issue. There's been no push to declassify what 371 00:24:44,190 --> 00:24:48,510 was learned in those sessions by anyone. Transparency push, yes, 372 00:24:48,750 --> 00:24:53,430 declassification push, no. There is a difference. So the public 373 00:24:53,430 --> 00:24:57,030 will get reports and that is a triumph and a win. I won't hide 374 00:24:57,030 --> 00:25:00,540 from that nor should anyone. However, the false hope This is 375 00:25:00,540 --> 00:25:03,390 all going to lead to the ultimate truth, where we learn 376 00:25:03,420 --> 00:25:07,470 all the secrets is likely not going to happen. But generic 377 00:25:07,470 --> 00:25:11,190 reports with little revealed, like the one in June can lead to 378 00:25:11,190 --> 00:25:14,520 legal pushes for information through FOIA. And that's a win. 379 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,760 But all this leading to a public that can lean back in their 380 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,540 chairs and wait for the ultimate truth to be revealed. I'm sorry, 381 00:25:21,570 --> 00:25:25,020 but I do not believe there is a chance. There are many aspects 382 00:25:25,020 --> 00:25:28,830 of this that are exciting and awesome. But some are making 383 00:25:28,860 --> 00:25:33,900 something making it something that it is not. So with that, 384 00:25:34,140 --> 00:25:37,110 that was my response and expansion. All of this is 385 00:25:37,110 --> 00:25:41,100 exciting, it really is, it's going to generate a lot of what 386 00:25:41,100 --> 00:25:45,300 I call FOIA fodder to go after. And that's what's exciting about 387 00:25:45,300 --> 00:25:48,000 this. But we also have to be realistic about our 388 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,960 expectations. And that's what's kind of, I would say, worrisome, 389 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:57,840 that I think people think, oh, DOD bad, Congress Good. Well, I 390 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:01,440 don't like the whole bad and good descriptors for either of 391 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:06,150 those. But secrecy prevails on both sides. And like I said, in 392 00:26:06,150 --> 00:26:10,290 this expansion of the tweet, I'm sorry, the congressmen and 393 00:26:10,290 --> 00:26:13,170 senators and so on, that are preaching transparency, and they 394 00:26:13,170 --> 00:26:16,290 weren't open as they are not coming out of those classified 395 00:26:16,290 --> 00:26:20,640 briefings, telling us anything about them. And I think the 396 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:26,610 point being, is that there's been real no push to declassify, 397 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,360 it's just the push to have more transparency. And although 398 00:26:30,360 --> 00:26:34,500 that's a good thing, that still I think, will not give us the 399 00:26:34,500 --> 00:26:40,710 ultimate truth. So that is the update on what's going on now, 400 00:26:41,010 --> 00:26:44,730 and what may happen in the future. And one of my closing 401 00:26:44,730 --> 00:26:49,950 thoughts to you guys, is this. A lot of people want me to focus 402 00:26:50,220 --> 00:26:54,420 on the Jilla brand amendment, and what that could potentially 403 00:26:55,110 --> 00:27:03,450 provide all of us. And although I think it is a, a great effort 404 00:27:03,660 --> 00:27:06,900 to contact representatives, and I encourage you all to do it, I 405 00:27:06,900 --> 00:27:10,200 was a big supporter, and am a big supporter of the big phone 406 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:15,600 home, I was involved in that I tried to give him Luis Jimenez 407 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:20,250 and his entire crew, as much support as I could, for that 408 00:27:20,250 --> 00:27:24,000 effort, because I think it's very worthwhile. So I don't want 409 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:29,250 to take away from that. But sadly, I just think that the 410 00:27:29,340 --> 00:27:34,350 congressmen and senators show as much secrecy I think, as the 411 00:27:34,350 --> 00:27:37,650 government agencies we love to persecute. And that's where I 412 00:27:37,650 --> 00:27:40,320 say that we need to keep this in perspective. But 413 00:27:42,120 --> 00:27:45,090 the problem with focusing on the Gillette brand amendment, 414 00:27:45,090 --> 00:27:47,730 despite what I say about secrecy, is that it hasn't 415 00:27:47,730 --> 00:27:51,300 happened yet. And when it comes to me, and this isn't a right 416 00:27:51,330 --> 00:27:54,600 the right way or the wrong way, it's just the way that I operate 417 00:27:54,810 --> 00:27:58,530 is I can't go off of possibilities of tomorrow, I 418 00:27:58,530 --> 00:28:03,240 have to go off of the reality of today. So that DOD memo, I can 419 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,420 act on that Agila brand amendment that hasn't passed 420 00:28:06,420 --> 00:28:09,060 yet. That means nothing to me, from an investigative 421 00:28:09,060 --> 00:28:13,020 standpoint, it's exciting. And I'm encouraged by it. But it 422 00:28:13,020 --> 00:28:16,350 doesn't mean anything yet, until it is signed. Once it's signed, 423 00:28:16,380 --> 00:28:20,970 we go from there. Until then, all we have is today, all we 424 00:28:20,970 --> 00:28:25,020 have is what is written in stone, and essentially concrete 425 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:29,040 and unfolding. And as much as people hate the DoD getting 426 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,250 involved, their paper trail goes back to June that they were 427 00:28:32,250 --> 00:28:35,580 going to do this effort, and that they were going to create 428 00:28:35,610 --> 00:28:39,930 essentially this office and and establish a more, I guess, 429 00:28:40,230 --> 00:28:42,960 structured way that they're going to research all of this 430 00:28:43,230 --> 00:28:47,130 and go from there, that is something that I can act on. But 431 00:28:47,670 --> 00:28:50,850 the Jilla brand amendment, I'll be exciting. I cannot. And 432 00:28:50,850 --> 00:28:54,630 that's why I kind of veer away from it for now, until it 433 00:28:54,630 --> 00:28:58,140 becomes concrete. I did the same thing with the UAP report before 434 00:28:58,260 --> 00:29:02,580 it passed. And then obviously it passed. And we got that UAP 435 00:29:02,580 --> 00:29:05,430 report and we dealt with that when it came but until it 436 00:29:05,430 --> 00:29:09,570 passes, absolutely we can't do anything except just get excited 437 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,440 and cheer him on which I'm all for doing so please do it. Right 438 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,770 your representatives but until then, nothing we can do. So 439 00:29:16,770 --> 00:29:19,680 that's my closing thought thank you all for tuning in. As 440 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,680 always, if you can give a thumbs up thumbs up for these videos, 441 00:29:22,770 --> 00:29:24,900 huge help to me, make sure you're subscribed to the 442 00:29:24,900 --> 00:29:29,310 channel. 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