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John Greenewald: The advanced
aerospace weapon system

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applications program or OS app.
Some believe it was a secret

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study into the paranormal
centered around a mysterious

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place in Utah known as
Skinwalker Ranch. The government

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denies that allegation and
labels it simply an aerospace

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research program that where
applicable, Drew research from

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UAP material, but they maintain
that the examination of

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unidentified objects was not at
all the purpose of the program.

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Now, the government has released
more than 1500 pages of material

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on OS app. Prepare yourself for
a deep dive into everything that

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just got released, and how the
media added to that Saga by

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royally messing it all up. Stay
tuned, you're about to journey

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inside the black vault.

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That's right, everybody. As
always, thank you so much for

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tuning in and taking this
journey inside the black vault

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with me. I'm your host, John
Greenwald, Jr, founder and

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creator of the black vault.com.
And when I say journey inside

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the black vault, at least
tonight anyway, I truly mean it.

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This is another deep dive I
don't do these often. This is I

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think maybe my second what I
would consider Deep Dive. And

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let me just say up front, a
couple things. I know these

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aren't for everybody. Number
one, they're long, right? I get

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it, I don't know how long this
is going to turn out to be. If

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you're watching the live
version, and you're unsure, I

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put it into the show description
below. If it's not live, then

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obviously you can see the length
of the video. But diving into

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these types of document dumps
sometimes deserves the time to

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do it. And that's what these
videos are all about. But I will

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go ahead and give you guys at
least a little bit of a summary

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here up top. So if you don't
watch the full breakdown, that's

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okay, you'll be able to at least
get the summary. So I wanted to

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say that upfront because this
will kind of get detailed this

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will go through all of the
documents for the most part that

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were released. About the
advanced let me pull up the

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visuals here. The advanced
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applications program, they'll
say that a few times FAST

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acronym, or SAP, I was going to
actually nickname this video or

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snap but I figured that would
pretty much upset a few of my

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biggest haters out there and
they would somehow make it into

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a declaration of war. But all
SAP is that acronym that we have

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pretty much heard about here
since the beginning of 2018.

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Connected to the A tip program.
That's the advanced aerospace

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threat Identification Program.
That was referred to by Harry

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Reid, Senator Harry Reid is the
advanced aerospace threat and

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identification program, slight
differences. And you'll see here

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in a couple of minutes, how
confusing all of that really

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becomes. But anyway, this is a
deep dive into some material

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that came out in the last couple
of weeks and got picked up by

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the mainstream media. Now when I
say mainstream media, the sun,

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if you're not familiar with that
publication, sometimes

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questionable recording, or
reporting, I should say not

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recording, but questionable
reporting. And although I don't

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like really trashing media
outlets, although I do harp on

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them often for coverage on UFOs.
I will say that this coverage

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was not strong. And the reason I
say that is it was not accurate

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about what was going on. And
what we were essentially all

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seeing. This was the article
that kind of led the way

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Pentagon releases 1500 pages of
secret documents about shadowy

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UFO program after four year
battle. Well, other than a wait,

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I'm not sure what battle they're
referring to. There were no

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appeals needed for this yet,
although I'll get into it later

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that I ended up filing some
appeals. The battle I'm a guest

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guessing is again that wait time
that that the journalist had

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waited Mr. Perry waited for the
documents to come 1500 pages of

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secret documents is a little
misleading. Sure they weren't

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revealed before. But they were
all unclassified, which is

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always a key when looking at
this type of information.

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Because it really does. I would
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the information there ends All
of these records being

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unclassified with the exception
of one report, which we'll get

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into in a few moments as well.

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The secret is a little bit
pushing it. But hey, look, I'm

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not going to harp on the writing
itself. I wanted to show you all

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the headline, and what then
created what I call the copy and

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paste journalism effect. And
that snowballed from there. A

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lot of places picked it up. I
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times a couple times. I don't
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networks. I didn't see him on
social media by the time I had

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recorded this. But I did see
again, a lot of media coverage

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on this, a lot of media
appearances by various UFO

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experts, even experiencers. I
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on, I believe, Fox News as well,
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Facebook, so a lot of coverage
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when you dissect the sun
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into so much other coverage, it
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single report. Not all 1500
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none of them were this report,
which was the only one to

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mention. UFOs was the one that
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most news agencies erroneously
reported quite a few different

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angles. But one was it was a
1500 page report. That was

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untrue. 1500 pages of UFO
related documents, that was

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untrue, and it just kind of
again, snowballed from there and

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a lot of inaccurate reporting.
But it was all based on this. It

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was authored by Dr. Christopher
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him just as Dr. Kitt green, and
I won't go into his whole

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background and, and so on,
because this video is going to

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be long enough. So I'm gonna
have to kick myself to not just

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dissect every little thing. So I
invite you all to research Dr.

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Kitt. Green, he has been around
the UFO field for many years, he

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has connect strong connections
to Dr. Howell put off and has

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yet again, very questionable
things that surround him as

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well. Now, I don't want to make
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I don't mean it. But I know that
a couple years back there was

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quite a few headlines as well
that Dr. Kitt Green was duped by

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the hoax, Roswell alien video
that he believed it to be real,

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when it was not. And that
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but gained mainstream coverage.
So there's, there's a backstory

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here. And again, I invite you
all to look into it. That's not

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meant to put him in a bad light,
I'm sure people will attack me

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for bringing it up. But rather,
I wanted to bring up that

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history to show that this wasn't
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this wasn't a doctor who just
appeared as part of this this

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program and was somebody who was
unknown, but rather quite the

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opposite, that he was known to
the UFO field, and was brought

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in as one of many subcontractors
to author some of these reports

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under the SAP contract. And so
what we'll get into the other

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reports in a moment, but that's
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reporting was about was, was on
this one report, I believe it

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only totaled like either 28 or
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it down in my in my presentation
here. But regardless, it was

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well under 50 pages out of the
1500. And that was kind of the

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only record that that talked
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The part that was true about the
reporting was the Defense

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Intelligence Agency. Now this
was the part of the intelligence

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community that was the home for
us up. Now we do know that that

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through reporting, some of which
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not, the DIA was the one that
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and then sent it out awarded it
to the contractor, Bigelow

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Aerospace and his subsidiary
bass. And that that part has

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kind of resonated resonated in
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last few years. So the DIA,
which has been sorely

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backlogged, when it comes to the
Freedom of Information Act, was

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just behind on file on
processing the requests filed

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for any OS app documents. Os app
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2018. And that's when the
majority of us started filing OS

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app specific requests. So the
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an exclusive, I'm not really
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nor nor am I taking credit.
There were a lot of people that

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were getting these documents
myself included in the last two

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weeks. Why? Well, we all kind of
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timeframe. And this is how long
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to those requests, process the
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them. For the most part most
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think the exact page count was
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other people that that narrowed
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got a lesser page count. But the
most broad, we got 1574 pages of

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material that was all about us
app. According to them, it was

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everything. Or at least that's
what through the foil letters

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led us to believe. I disagree
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an appeal actually multiple
appeals. Based on quite a bit of

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evidence, we'll see if we get
into it during this during this

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presentation. But regardless,
just know I have filed appeals

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based on this. But they took
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dumped them on their reading
room after some of us had had

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already had them for about two
weeks. What happened next was,

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of course, a big conspiracy. And
I'll just go ahead and throw

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this out there guys don't kill
the messenger here. But I truly

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believe based on conversations
on the telephone, not not just

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through email. But on the
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Intelligence Agency, I could
tell that the processing of

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these requests was a mess. And
what they were doing was

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potentially cultivating a
brewing conspiracy extravaganza

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about RCEP. Now for those fans
of this channel that have seen

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some of my interviews, one of
which was with Tony Blair Galia,

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you'll see where that
misunderstanding to someone who

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really didn't have experience
with the FOIA or dissecting what

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he received, but just kind of
assumed quite a bit. And he felt

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that he got the DIA to admit to
alien material, which was wrong.

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And I believe through evidence,
not even experience where I'm

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trying to say, hey, he just was
inexperienced No, with with

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actual evidence to refute his
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blew it out of the water. But
but that is a prime example of

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what happens when there is, I
would say, a slight carelessness

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when filing or excuse me, when
when processing the filed FOIA

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requests, because they took
those 1500 Plus pages, dumped

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them on their reading room, put
them all under the title

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unidentified aerial phenomena.
Now, why is this kind of

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surprising? Why

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does this even matter? Well, for
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Department of Defense and the
DIA has stood by that, although

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eventually they admitted some of
the material utilized UAP

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information in their report,
likely that Kitt Green report I

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just showed you, the scope of
the program had nothing to do

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with UFOs and UAP. Now, again,
don't kill the messenger. But

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based on the evidence, I
actually feel that's true. But

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regardless, like take my opinion
out of it, that's the DoD

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stance, you can take that as as
as you want. But that is the

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Department of Defense's stance,
it's been a messy message. I

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will not defend their messaging.
I don't endorse what they say.

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But rather, that is what they
say. So when they put this on

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their reading room under
unidentified aerial phenomena, I

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thought, okay, their messaging
has been really messy. And with

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me, they have changed that
message in the past. And I've

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reported on that and written
articles about I've done videos

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about how they will say one
thing, and then amend it later

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on, and they'll change it. One
time, they said, correct the

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record, I think, is they the way
that they refer to it as and and

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that became kind of a mess in
itself. While this was kind of

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no different. I reached out the
let me see, I think the day

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after, or maybe the day of that
this popped up that the

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unidentified aerial phenomena
tab popped up in their reading

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room and had not existed before.
And I asked the DIA is Public

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Affairs Office, and also the
Pentagon who generally speaks on

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UAP issues? Hey, what's going
on? Are you guys now changing

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your tune? Can you please give
me an amended statement? If so,

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if not, what is going on?
Because out of the 15 174 ish

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pages, you only had less than 40
that that dealt with UAP and

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UFOs. So and again, don't kill
the messenger. You guys can

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download all those documents.
See for yourself. There's a lot

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of stuff about advanced
aerospace, but nothing about UAP

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UFOs. So what gifts Why would
you put it in that category? And

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I wasn't accusatory or trying to
say change it. But rather

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seeking clarification if they
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something pretty soon that we
didn't get everything. But they

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were going to post something
that would force them to

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essentially alter their message
and change some statements.

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Well, I didn't hear back that
day. The next day, something

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strange happened. It
disappeared. And you can See

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here on the right side of the
screen, the tab disappeared. I

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then got a response from the
Pentagon. No surprise there, the

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DIA did not speak on their own
behalf when it came to the UAP

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issue, Susan golf a name that
some of you very well know and

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love is the one that speaks on
UAP issues. She said the

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following dia mistakenly
selected UAP as the tab label

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for those documents, we're
working with them to change it

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to a more accurate name. As we
have said before, while the AOS

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HAP contract allowed for
research drawn from a wide

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variety of sources, including
reports of UAP. The examination

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of UAP observations was not the
purpose of a tip, nor the offset

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contract, Susan golf Pentagon
spokesperson. So what she called

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as a mistake, essentially a
mistake, it was changed now, by

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the recording of this video,
which is roughly about five or

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six days or so since since that
happened. They have not changed

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it. Now I've programmed websites
for over 25 years. And I know

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that although coding can get
complicated, all they had to do

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were very few changes to
essentially put this into

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another folder or rename the
current folder since that was

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all that was in it meaning OS
app material. Now, this is a

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pure display of government
logic. Why wouldn't you just

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name it OS app? There's no
confusion with that whatsoever.

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You don't got to do UFO UAP
unidentified aerial phenomena,

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you don't have to do any of
that. And if you made a mistake,

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fine. You owned up to it. You
made a mistake. Let's rename it.

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Why wouldn't you just rename it
awesome. Boom, done. Instead,

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here we are looking at our
watches gone? Where's where's

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the beef? Where's

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the data? Where did it go? Well,
it's all gone. Now, don't worry,

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because I went ahead and had
already received it through FOIA

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and put it online. But on top of
that, and I'll highlight the

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document later on. There was
actually one document that

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showed up in the reading room,
that as far as I know. And I

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checked with a few people, not
everybody, obviously, because I

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don't know the full list. But
the few people that I know got

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it through FOIA did not actually
get this document why I'm not

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sure. But I'll go ahead and
highlight that to you guys as

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well. But all that data on the
DIA as I'm recording, this is

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gone. But the link in the below
description. If you haven't seen

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it yet, go ahead and click on
that it'd be able to download

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everything. It's still there. So
while we go through this deep

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dive and go deeper into the
documents that were released,

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now that you have a bit of the
backstory about how this all

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kind of unfolded and the
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it. Not that there wasn't enough
already. The OS app name itself

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has been kind of an Enigma in
this conversation. Now the

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gentleman that you see on your
screen here, Robert Bigelow, up

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here, Luis Elizondo here Dr. Hal
put off here Senator Harry Reid,

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the late Senator Harry Reid
here. And kind of the newcomer

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in the conversation somewhat
newcomer Dr. James McCaskey, a

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name we've known for many years,
never saw never heard from until

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late last year, when he came out
with the skinwalkers at the

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Pentagon book authored by
himself, Dr. Column Kelleher and

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George Knapp. So these are the
gentlemen that really have

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spearheaded defining what OS app
was. Robert Bigelow was the head

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of Bigelow Aerospace and the
subsidiary bass, he was given

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the contract of offset by the
DIA, Luis Elizondo didn't talk

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about OS app until OS app became
known. Then he said he didn't

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want to talk about it, because
he didn't have any part of it. I

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can respect that. But there has
been some controversy since

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then. And some question marks
about exactly did he have a role

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in it? Did he not? So on and so
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that there are question marks
depending on those quotes,

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because I can see the social
media bashing, as I say that,

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that there's no confusion he has
been open. It's not about the

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fact that he has or has not been
open, but rather, the

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contradictions are palpable when
it comes to his connection or

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lack thereof to Ossip. But
regardless, he has spoken of an

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about it periodically, but says
he played no role in it, and

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generally doesn't like to speak
to it. Doctor, how put off was

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one of the main contractors
behind it. He worked for bass,

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and according to him was the one
that created the topics. For the

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reports the technical reports
created under OS app, Senator

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Harry Reid, he was the one that
got the money. He was along with

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Daniel Inouye and Ted Stevens.
Those three senators were the

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ones that essentially got the
money over to the DIA to fund OS

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app. The rest was history. And
Dr. Lane. James McCaskey was the

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DIA front he was the one that
was the director of OSS AP on

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the DIA side. Dr. Colum Kelleher
who I did not picture here or,

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because I won't talk about a
much. But I know he's kind of

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gotten on the scene a little bit
with the publishing of this

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book. And then prior, he was
well known for his NIDS research

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and so on. But Dr. Column,
Kelleher was kind of known as,

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essentially the director on the
on the on the private sector

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side,

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the bass side for OS app. We'll
go ahead and dissect all of what

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those gentlemen did with OS app.
And we'll see kind of who's the

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closest with the definition now
why am I laughing? Because the

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definitions for OS app from
these gentlemen differ. They

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actually don't align. They
contradict each other a lot.

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This book here, not saying it's
right or wrong, but really threw

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a monkey wrench into the wheel
of the story that I was actually

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becoming more and more
comfortable with Mr. Luis

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Elizondo, kind of put a monkey
wrench if you really read it,

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and you really match up the
claims. It kind of, I will say

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messed it up. Now, I'm not
saying it's right, not saying

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it's wrong, but rather it messed
it up. Nobody can. Nobody can

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hide from that fact that the
contradictions, again, are

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incredibly palpable when you
match up everything in this. Now

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I'm gonna start with some of
your favorite. The nevermind.

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I'll start with, I'll start with
the DOD. First, I was going to

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make a joke I decided not to.
But this is the stance on offset

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from the Pentagon from the DOD.
It's a little bit long, but for

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the audio version, I think it's
worthwhile reading again, this

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is a culmination of numerous
statements that the DoD then

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combined for a kind of a massive
statement about the program

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massive is kind of an
overstatement. But this is kind

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of a very lengthy expose a of
what a tip slash OSS AP was,

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according to the DOD. The
purpose of the advanced

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aerospace threat Identification
Program, or a tip was to

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investigate for an advanced
aerospace weapon system

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applications with future
technology projections over the

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next 40 years and to create a
center of expertise for advanced

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aerospace technologies. The goal
is to help understand the threat

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posed by unconventional or leap
ahead aerospace vehicles and

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technologies that could have
national security implications

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for the United States. The
program commenced in fiscal year

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2008 with $10 million
appropriated in the defense

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supplemental appropriation act,
dia awarded a contract to a sole

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bidder, Bigelow Aerospace,
advanced space studies or bass.

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The contract was known as the
advanced aerospace weapon system

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applications program. Now, how
do I read this as somebody who's

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researched government programs,
it's kind of straightforward.

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I'm not saying it's accurate,
I'm saying it's straightforward.

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They are differentiating between
a tip and offset how I how I

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dissect this is through the
defense supplemental

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appropriation Act for Fiscal
Year 2008. A tip was created out

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of that as a DIA program,
obviously, oversight, which will

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be at OSD. And part of that
program created a contracts that

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was sent out, awarded two bass,
that part was known as the

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advanced aerospace weapon system
application program. Now, why I

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dissect it like that, just so
you guys are aware, and anybody

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can verify this. There are
various programs or essentially,

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titles that are given to efforts
in this example, a tip, and in a

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budget, you have that on a line
item. But underneath that, you

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can have multiple contracts sent
out under that portfolio, that

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header that headline, that
program name, whatever you want

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to call it. But But essentially,
there could be multiple, how I

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dissect this is it's kind of no
different except there's just

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one contract that was known as
OSS, AP, and other ones where

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there's multiple, they would
have multiple potential program

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names. And again, that's not
true. In every instance, I'm

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just saying, if you look at
budgets, you can see that kind

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of stuff, where things are
contracted out. And you'll have

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different contractors doing
different parts of a portfolio

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or whatever you want to, again,
call it, but that is slated to

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have X amount of millions or 10s
of millions or hundreds of

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millions of dollars, and they
contract out certain things. As

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a result, that agency will get
the deliverables from each of

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those contracted agencies and
outlets. They'll send the

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reports back or research back or
whatever that contract is. And

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there you go. Then you have all
this research done that's

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collected by the agency. And
this particular one a tip I feel

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based on their outline here is
just kind of that dia LEAD

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program and initiative. And
under that all SAP was created

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to get these technical reports
and they farm that out to bass,

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and the rest was history.

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Going back to the statement,
this is from again the Pentagon

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on offset. The contract goal was
to study 12 technical areas

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lift, propulsion control,
armament signatures reduction

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materials configuration, power
generation temporal translation,

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human effects human interface
and technology integration. The

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contract Dora identified and
worked with academics and

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scientists to produce technical
reports and developing the

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reports and exploring how to
create a center of expertise.

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The contract allowed for
research drawn from a wide

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variety of sources, including
reports of UAPs however, the

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examination of UAP observations
was not the purpose of a tip.

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The first 26 reports were
completed by late 2009. The

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defense Appropriation Act for
Fiscal Act for Fiscal Year 2010,

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included an additional $12
million for the program, and 12

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additional reports were
produced. A total of 38

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technical reports were
delivered, the list is below.

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All of the reports are either
classified or marked for

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official use only only a few
have been released to the

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public. Now we know that last
part obviously isn't true. But

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this was this was probably about
eight months or so ago when this

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when this was set out to the
general public. But we know now

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the reports have with the
exception of one been released.

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After review in late 2009, it
was determined that the reports

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were of limited value to dia the
department terminated a tip when

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funding for the program ended in
2012. Again, Susan golf Pentagon

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spokesperson that is the DoD
stance. One very quick note

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before I move on these citations
to the Defense Appropriations

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Act and a supplemental
appropriations bill and so on. I

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have driven myself nuts trying
to figure out what line item

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they would come from. I can't
find any I've asked the Pentagon

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going all the way back to 2018.
When that statement was first

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sent out by then Pentagon
spokesperson major Adria Harris

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could not be successful that
either pretty much fell on deaf

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ears, I've stopped trying.
Probably after about a year and

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a half to two years of of trying
and look through the bills.

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There's hundreds and hundreds
and hundreds of pages, couldn't

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find anything. So I invite you
all to look to try and deduce

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it. It's not as easy as just
trying to find references to a

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tip or OS app or both. Rather,
it's hidden in some other line

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item. Who knows. Now that was
the DoD stance and going back to

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the to the screen of gentleman
that I showed you and kind of

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how everything differs. This is
Dr. Hal put off. And when he was

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lecturing in Las Vegas in June
of 2018, he addressed the

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difference between a tip and
offset. Let me quote him, people

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have had trouble trying to get
documents out of the Pentagon by

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saying they want all documents
on a tip. And they have a hard

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time because that wasn't the
actual name of the program.

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advanced aerospace weapon system
application program is the

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actual name of the program. But
a tip was the nickname it went

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by. And again, that was Dr. Hal
put off. So to him, it was

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simply a nickname. This is also
reflected in Senator Harry

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Reid's 2009 letter. But I didn't
get that from the DoD statement.

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Again, it seemed like the eighth
tip was kind of that umbrella

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program with all that being the
contracted out portion. Doctor

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how put off says ATF didn't
essentially exist. It was just a

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nickname for our effort known as
OS app. Fine, not saying it's

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right or wrong, but that's his
stance. Luis Elizondo addressed

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this in July of 2018.

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And he explained the difference
between a tip and OS app in his

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words, it would be disingenuous
for me to simply say, well, a

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00:29:14,459 --> 00:29:18,719
tip is really all SAP. Well, it
evolved from OS app, but it is

437
00:29:18,719 --> 00:29:22,979
not OS app. And I think the
documentation that is beginning

438
00:29:22,979 --> 00:29:26,369
to come out into the public
forum, people are beginning to

439
00:29:26,369 --> 00:29:30,809
realize that no idea what
documentation is referring to

440
00:29:30,809 --> 00:29:34,529
other than some leaked documents
and reports. And that's fine,

441
00:29:34,529 --> 00:29:38,489
but it really didn't make, in my
opinion, anything more clear,

442
00:29:38,489 --> 00:29:42,209
but rather much more messy. But
the point here is that he's

443
00:29:42,209 --> 00:29:46,709
saying ASA Ossip, and a tip are
not the same, they are

444
00:29:46,709 --> 00:29:51,869
different, and he draws a
distinct and firm line in

445
00:29:51,869 --> 00:29:54,659
between the two during one of my
interviews and conversations

446
00:29:54,659 --> 00:29:59,489
with him. I asked Mr. Elizondo
about the contradiction with Dr.

447
00:29:59,489 --> 00:30:05,129
Put off and his labeling that it
was a nickname. He said that

448
00:30:05,129 --> 00:30:09,479
that was not accurate, didn't
expand on it beyond that said it

449
00:30:09,479 --> 00:30:12,689
wasn't accurate. So here we have
people that were intimately

450
00:30:12,689 --> 00:30:17,849
involved, according to them, but
they don't even agree on what

451
00:30:17,849 --> 00:30:21,689
the relationship between OS app
and a tip really was. So that

452
00:30:21,689 --> 00:30:26,159
forces us, the researchers, a
curious minds, to essentially

453
00:30:26,159 --> 00:30:30,089
seek other ways to try and
figure that out. For me, it's

454
00:30:30,089 --> 00:30:35,009
the FOIA, because when you're
dealing with a primarily

455
00:30:35,009 --> 00:30:39,269
unclassified program, and that's
not just through evidence, which

456
00:30:39,269 --> 00:30:42,539
evidence supports this, but for
those who like to take Senator

457
00:30:42,539 --> 00:30:48,029
Harry Reid at his word, he says,
over 80% of it was unclassified

458
00:30:48,809 --> 00:30:51,659
and open. And he said that to
New York Magazine, I never

459
00:30:51,659 --> 00:30:54,869
understood that nobody has ever
asked him to clarify. But

460
00:30:54,869 --> 00:30:59,099
regardless if that is true, 80
plus percent is unclassified.

461
00:30:59,339 --> 00:31:02,729
Why is there that much
confusion, and through FOIA, it

462
00:31:02,729 --> 00:31:06,599
shouldn't be all that difficult,
other than the extraordinarily

463
00:31:06,599 --> 00:31:10,259
long wait times by the DIA, but
it shouldn't be that difficult

464
00:31:10,259 --> 00:31:14,699
to figure out. So that's what we
did. And I say we just because

465
00:31:14,699 --> 00:31:17,309
again, I know I'm not alone in
this, nor am I trying to take

466
00:31:17,309 --> 00:31:20,579
credit. So I want to make sure
that others out there to name a

467
00:31:20,579 --> 00:31:26,849
few Alejandro Rojas, Jack
Brewer, Mark Sokoto, the those

468
00:31:26,849 --> 00:31:28,739
are a couple names that are
sticking out off the top of my

469
00:31:28,739 --> 00:31:31,679
head, that are posting
documents, there's quite a few

470
00:31:31,679 --> 00:31:38,219
others. So there's nothing
unique about one person getting

471
00:31:38,219 --> 00:31:42,269
this but rather, this was sent
to a lot of people in response

472
00:31:42,269 --> 00:31:47,099
to their requests that were that
were filed in various ways. So

473
00:31:47,099 --> 00:31:52,289
what I did when I received those
more than 1500 pages, I started

474
00:31:52,289 --> 00:31:56,069
dissecting them. And by doing
that, for me, the most

475
00:31:56,069 --> 00:31:59,999
appropriate way to do it is how
I'm going to dive even deeper

476
00:31:59,999 --> 00:32:04,589
into the story with you all, and
that is doing them and going

477
00:32:04,589 --> 00:32:08,519
through them and going through
them in chronological order. And

478
00:32:08,519 --> 00:32:11,789
that's what I did first when I
published them online, and so

479
00:32:11,789 --> 00:32:14,309
what we'll do is we'll break
them down in chronological

480
00:32:14,309 --> 00:32:18,689
order. That's not how they were
released. It was a pile of PDFs,

481
00:32:18,899 --> 00:32:22,439
sent throughout numerous emails.
And in my case, we're actually

482
00:32:22,439 --> 00:32:25,319
sent through different FOIA
cases. So I had to bring them

483
00:32:25,319 --> 00:32:29,009
all together and make sense of
it. And so I published them all

484
00:32:29,009 --> 00:32:31,349
online. So that's what we're
going to do, we're going to

485
00:32:31,349 --> 00:32:35,219
break down all of that material
right now. And I want to start

486
00:32:35,219 --> 00:32:41,699
with the the research documents,
there were 38 total. Now the

487
00:32:41,699 --> 00:32:44,579
titles are what you're looking
at on the screen. Now, it may be

488
00:32:44,579 --> 00:32:47,399
a little too small to read. But
don't worry, it's more of a

489
00:32:47,399 --> 00:32:51,869
visual where this breaks down
the 38 technical research

490
00:32:51,869 --> 00:32:56,729
reports, or the dirts, often
referred to as the dirts, the

491
00:32:56,729 --> 00:33:04,229
Defense Intelligence reference
documents. These are the product

492
00:33:04,289 --> 00:33:08,639
of OS app. And this was revealed
to me in a FOIA request in

493
00:33:08,639 --> 00:33:13,589
January of 2019. Not the reports
themselves, but rather the

494
00:33:13,589 --> 00:33:18,149
titles. A lot of the titles had
leaked before, but that there

495
00:33:18,149 --> 00:33:23,189
was actually a difference in the
leaked version. So so there were

496
00:33:24,419 --> 00:33:26,909
there was a little bit of
confusion there that was never

497
00:33:26,909 --> 00:33:30,419
really addressed. So what
leaked? I'm not sure it was for

498
00:33:30,419 --> 00:33:33,569
the most part, the same. But
there were differences and it

499
00:33:33,569 --> 00:33:37,739
wasn't 100% accurate. This
obviously was because this came

500
00:33:37,739 --> 00:33:42,809
from the agency outlining to
where this came from outlining

501
00:33:42,809 --> 00:33:46,139
to Senator John McCain at the
time it was written, what were

502
00:33:46,139 --> 00:33:49,079
the products of OSS app, and
that's what you see here.

503
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:56,490
37 of the 38 of what you're
looking at have been released in

504
00:33:56,490 --> 00:34:01,530
this 1500 Plus pages. This one
here, if you can read it, number

505
00:34:01,530 --> 00:34:06,360
37, I believe is the missing
one. I have filed an appeal for

506
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:10,020
this. This is state of the art
evolution of high energy laser

507
00:34:10,020 --> 00:34:15,210
weapons. That was the title of
that there were there was a

508
00:34:15,210 --> 00:34:18,420
public version and unclassified
version, excuse me, not public,

509
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:22,410
but an unclassified version and
a secret version. So likely,

510
00:34:22,410 --> 00:34:25,560
there weren't many, many
differences other than maybe a

511
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:31,680
few more details in there with
classified information at the

512
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:36,120
level of secret Other than that,
the 37 other ones were released.

513
00:34:36,450 --> 00:34:40,950
Now I'm not going to go through
all of them simply because

514
00:34:40,980 --> 00:34:44,400
that's a full video in itself,
but I invite you to download

515
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:48,570
them. There's some highly highly
scientific material in there.

516
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:54,480
And way over my head, I ain't
gonna lie, so I'm not even going

517
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:58,710
to try. But regardless, they're
there for you to download, all

518
00:34:58,710 --> 00:35:01,470
of which are at an uncluttered
to five level now officially

519
00:35:01,470 --> 00:35:04,950
released, I'm going to come back
to that slide actually, that's a

520
00:35:04,950 --> 00:35:08,160
little bit out of place. So what
I did on that page, again,

521
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,160
linked below, if you're watching
on YouTube, if you're listening

522
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,760
on the podcast, find the show
notes, you'll be able to go

523
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:19,740
ahead and download all of the
dirt papers, all 37 of them in a

524
00:35:19,740 --> 00:35:23,760
zip file, or one by one,
whichever you prefer. On the

525
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:28,140
screen. If you're watching this,
it will look like this. So

526
00:35:28,170 --> 00:35:33,150
you'll be able to download
everything. The one dirt that I

527
00:35:33,150 --> 00:35:37,560
will talk about, however, is
that Dr. Kitt green one, I want

528
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,440
to go back to it. I've already
touched on it already. But what

529
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:44,550
I did not mention was that it
had already leaked before. And

530
00:35:44,580 --> 00:35:50,400
this was published by Popular
Mechanics, and had already kind

531
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:56,220
of circulated a little bit. It
wasn't the exact dird Be because

532
00:35:56,220 --> 00:35:58,470
there were differences which I'm
going to show you right now.

533
00:35:58,650 --> 00:36:02,700
minor ones, but one of which I
think was of note. But

534
00:36:02,700 --> 00:36:06,030
regardless, the title was
different. You can see here, the

535
00:36:06,030 --> 00:36:09,120
official version anomalous acute
and subacute field effects on

536
00:36:09,300 --> 00:36:12,900
human biological tissues, versus
the leaked version, clinical,

537
00:36:12,900 --> 00:36:16,710
medical, acute and sub acute
field effects on human dermal

538
00:36:16,710 --> 00:36:19,710
and neurological tissues,
obviously, much more of a

539
00:36:19,710 --> 00:36:23,970
handful here. So my guess is
this was a draft. That's what

540
00:36:23,970 --> 00:36:27,750
I'm guessing that maybe what
leaked was was one of those

541
00:36:27,750 --> 00:36:32,310
first drafts or maybe this is
what they sent to DIA and dia

542
00:36:32,310 --> 00:36:36,630
maybe edited it down a little
bit changed the title, I don't

543
00:36:36,630 --> 00:36:41,550
know. And Dr. James McCaskey, I
can't get a hold of him doesn't

544
00:36:41,550 --> 00:36:45,180
return messages. So sadly, I'm
just kind of left to speculate a

545
00:36:45,180 --> 00:36:47,730
little bit, but regardless
wanted to at least make note

546
00:36:47,730 --> 00:36:51,990
that this had been around before
as being published by the

547
00:36:52,020 --> 00:36:56,700
Popular Mechanics. So what I did
was I started comparing the two

548
00:36:56,700 --> 00:36:59,700
just out of curiosity, the
formatting was different, which

549
00:36:59,700 --> 00:37:03,450
created a pretty drastic page
count difference. But it appears

550
00:37:03,450 --> 00:37:07,770
that there weren't major
structural differences. except a

551
00:37:07,770 --> 00:37:12,060
few that I noted here, the
advanced aerospace weapon system

552
00:37:12,060 --> 00:37:16,590
applications program or OS app,
those references were actually

553
00:37:16,590 --> 00:37:20,160
all taken out. And I don't know
why this will obviously, if you

554
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:24,330
look at the list of 38 reports,
definitely stuck out. Number

555
00:37:24,330 --> 00:37:27,150
one, it it was the only one that
dealt with UAP. It's the only

556
00:37:27,150 --> 00:37:32,730
one that mentions it at all. And
UFOs as well, deals with all

557
00:37:32,730 --> 00:37:36,180
sorts of crazy stuff like
radiation burns, and brain

558
00:37:36,180 --> 00:37:39,810
damage, and all sorts of things
that happen to the human body

559
00:37:39,810 --> 00:37:45,000
after coming into contact with
UFOs. Well, in the leaked

560
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:49,380
version, os app was referenced,
I believe, four times, and the

561
00:37:49,380 --> 00:37:52,500
official version, all the OS app
references were stripped out.

562
00:37:53,130 --> 00:37:55,770
Now the cover page remained.
I'll show you the cover in a

563
00:37:55,770 --> 00:38:00,240
second. But why why was that you
can see here, the first one here

564
00:38:00,240 --> 00:38:03,210
that showed you this is 23 of
the leaked version 10 of the

565
00:38:03,210 --> 00:38:07,170
official, the footnote strips
out the OSS app reference.

566
00:38:08,250 --> 00:38:13,020
Here's another one. Inside what
is not addressed in this review,

567
00:38:13,020 --> 00:38:16,830
again, this was from the leaked
version. We are aware of claims

568
00:38:16,830 --> 00:38:19,800
that some new and emergent
systems may be intended to cause

569
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:23,940
harm, and thus even be an
intended weapon system. We make

570
00:38:23,940 --> 00:38:28,530
no attempt here in to validate
any claims. That is certainly

571
00:38:28,530 --> 00:38:31,230
the overarching goal of the
advanced aerospace weapon system

572
00:38:31,230 --> 00:38:34,020
applications program, but not of
the study.

573
00:38:35,370 --> 00:38:40,110
You didn't attempt to verify any
claims in this study. That's how

574
00:38:40,110 --> 00:38:44,760
I took that I don't I've read it
100 times trying to figure out

575
00:38:45,630 --> 00:38:49,980
is he talking about claims of
this being weapon systems? But

576
00:38:49,980 --> 00:38:53,250
no, I think that regardless,
even if he was maybe referring

577
00:38:53,250 --> 00:38:56,280
to trying to validate claims
being weapons systems are not.

578
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:00,930
It's clear, he didn't validate
any of the claims. And as

579
00:39:00,930 --> 00:39:04,710
someone on social media have
pointed out, namely Stephen

580
00:39:04,710 --> 00:39:09,420
Green Street, video journalist
from the New York Post, host of

581
00:39:09,420 --> 00:39:11,850
the basement office, I know he's
coming out with a new season.

582
00:39:12,750 --> 00:39:17,070
credit to him on on this level
of digging, he went to the

583
00:39:17,070 --> 00:39:21,510
sources that Dr. Kitt green
used, and saw that a lot of them

584
00:39:21,510 --> 00:39:24,810
I won't say all of them, but a
lot of them were using National

585
00:39:24,810 --> 00:39:30,660
Enquirer, and like an Australian
Penthouse magazine, very

586
00:39:30,690 --> 00:39:38,400
questionable sources to create
such an extraordinary claimed

587
00:39:38,430 --> 00:39:43,710
document about effects of UAP
and UFOs. On the human body.

588
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:48,840
Would you jump to the National
Enquirer and and and essentially

589
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:53,580
smart magazines to get your
sources? Well, that's what this

590
00:39:53,580 --> 00:40:00,000
report does. It cites reports
that he's using as evidence and

591
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,660
And that is their sourcing. So
when you trace back where the

592
00:40:03,660 --> 00:40:06,990
stories are coming from, again,
you have a lot of National

593
00:40:06,990 --> 00:40:10,590
Enquirer and Penthouse magazine
and Australia and so on

594
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,800
references, and Stephen Green
Street made, I think it's like a

595
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:17,040
two minute video. And I was
contemplating getting permission

596
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,500
to show it in this video I
decided not to, because I think

597
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:23,070
there may be like some copyright
issues that I didn't want to

598
00:40:23,070 --> 00:40:29,250
deal with using it. But he uses
different clips, and visuals and

599
00:40:29,250 --> 00:40:33,690
so on and clearly shows how the
Syria quote unquote serious news

600
00:40:33,690 --> 00:40:39,420
coverage of this is missing a
major piece of the story, which

601
00:40:39,420 --> 00:40:42,570
is the sourcing. So he says it
right here that he's not

602
00:40:42,570 --> 00:40:46,050
verifying anything, any of the
claims. And then when you go

603
00:40:46,050 --> 00:40:49,110
back even further, you realize
the claims likely can't be

604
00:40:49,110 --> 00:40:53,100
verified. So does that give it
scientific merit? I'm not a

605
00:40:53,100 --> 00:40:56,040
scientist. So I'll let you guys
decide. Going back to that

606
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:59,670
report, though. No attempt to
validate these claims. That is

607
00:40:59,670 --> 00:41:02,820
certainly the overarching goal
of the OSS app, but not of the

608
00:41:02,820 --> 00:41:06,030
study. You can see here in the
official version that was

609
00:41:06,030 --> 00:41:10,380
stripped out. So he just
validate, no attempt here and to

610
00:41:10,380 --> 00:41:14,430
validate any claims, see that
here, and then a period, no

611
00:41:14,430 --> 00:41:18,030
reference to Asa. I don't know
why. It's an unclassified

612
00:41:18,030 --> 00:41:21,510
document. And it's an
unclassified program. So there's

613
00:41:21,510 --> 00:41:25,440
really kind of no reason. Here's
another one, the material does

614
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,900
not rise to the quality of the
initiative of this advanced

615
00:41:27,900 --> 00:41:30,630
aerospace weapon system
application program, in which

616
00:41:30,630 --> 00:41:33,450
this paper serves as one of
several dozen analytical

617
00:41:33,450 --> 00:41:40,410
examples, official version is
stripped out. Now, why do I

618
00:41:40,410 --> 00:41:42,810
point that out? Why do I think
it's important? Well, for the

619
00:41:42,810 --> 00:41:45,480
same reason, the Popular
Mechanics felt it was important

620
00:41:45,510 --> 00:41:49,560
to point out those references.
And so for the fact that they

621
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:57,000
felt the need to in I believe,
yeah, 2020. Popular Mechanics

622
00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:00,150
felt the need to point out the
references and numbered them on

623
00:42:00,150 --> 00:42:03,270
four different occasions off SAP
was mentioned, essentially

624
00:42:03,270 --> 00:42:08,130
drawing the line between UFO and
UAP research to OS app. How is

625
00:42:08,130 --> 00:42:10,830
it that Popular Mechanics felt
that it was important, but on

626
00:42:10,830 --> 00:42:14,370
the official version, all of
those were stripped to me there,

627
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,190
there seems to be a reason why I
don't think that that's just

628
00:42:17,190 --> 00:42:21,420
editing. And if it is, well,
that's, that's great. I'm

629
00:42:21,420 --> 00:42:24,000
looking forward to somebody
saying that. But regardless,

630
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:28,380
though, what happened to the
references? Was there an

631
00:42:28,380 --> 00:42:33,450
intended separation between that
report and OS app? I don't know.

632
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,320
But clearly, something was going
on for them to strip out all of

633
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:43,620
the references. The only other
dirt I will point out is the one

634
00:42:43,620 --> 00:42:47,280
on the Drake Equation. Very
interesting to put in there with

635
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,760
advanced aerospace technology. I
don't have an explanation on why

636
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:54,450
doesn't mention UFOs or UAP. But
obviously, calculating

637
00:42:54,450 --> 00:43:00,090
intelligent life in the universe
was the the aim of this. Why was

638
00:43:00,090 --> 00:43:04,350
it in here? Don't know. It's
interesting nonetheless. But

639
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:08,340
none of the other reports dealt
with UFOs or UAP.

640
00:43:09,750 --> 00:43:12,840
As I mentioned, they are on
advanced aerospace technology,

641
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:16,200
and it very much matches up to
the DoD is explanation of what

642
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:22,830
the scope was. So the majority
will call it 35. of the 37. Were

643
00:43:22,830 --> 00:43:27,630
exactly in the scope of what the
DoD said OSAP was all about two

644
00:43:27,630 --> 00:43:32,160
other ones. Absolutely
intriguing. When you dig deeper,

645
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,380
the Drake Equation still a
question mark for me, I don't

646
00:43:34,380 --> 00:43:38,460
know. But the Kitt green one
really makes you wonder, why our

647
00:43:38,460 --> 00:43:42,510
National Inquiry, National
Enquirer, and penthouse sourced

648
00:43:42,510 --> 00:43:47,970
stories, finding their way into
government research. I don't

649
00:43:47,970 --> 00:43:52,620
know. And if you I was going to
do a segment on this, and I

650
00:43:52,620 --> 00:43:57,150
decided that, number one, it's
beating a dead horse. But number

651
00:43:57,150 --> 00:44:03,750
two, there's so much to it, to
sit down and yet again, show how

652
00:44:03,750 --> 00:44:09,090
the story has changed over the
last three plus years. And when

653
00:44:09,090 --> 00:44:13,410
the New York Times and politico
led the charge on telling us all

654
00:44:13,410 --> 00:44:19,260
about a tip, and $22 million,
and bass and metamaterials this

655
00:44:19,260 --> 00:44:23,520
and UFOs that now that the
evidence is starting to surface,

656
00:44:24,030 --> 00:44:28,470
it's a completely different
picture. And I don't want to

657
00:44:28,470 --> 00:44:31,980
name names because I'm not
trying to make enemies here. But

658
00:44:31,980 --> 00:44:34,440
when you look at some of the
interviews that are done about

659
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:38,430
this and people with authority
speaking on it, and and

660
00:44:38,490 --> 00:44:43,080
essentially talking about how
this was a UFO research program

661
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:46,620
three plus years ago, they were
saying that, but now it's no

662
00:44:46,620 --> 00:44:52,410
they couldn't say UFOs but it's
the technology around UFOs. That

663
00:44:52,410 --> 00:44:55,980
all sounds great, but that
hasn't been the story. And in

664
00:44:55,980 --> 00:45:00,420
fact that a tip $22 million
thing. Well, according to Dr.

665
00:45:00,420 --> 00:45:04,710
James McCaskey, the director of
the ASA program, it was all

666
00:45:04,710 --> 00:45:09,060
wrong. That money never went to
a tip. He said that there was

667
00:45:09,060 --> 00:45:12,060
some a tip that was in the
Pentagon. That's Luis Elizondo

668
00:45:12,060 --> 00:45:15,510
is connection. But it was his
program that got the $22

669
00:45:15,510 --> 00:45:18,840
million. And if you read
skinwalkers, at the Pentagon,

670
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:23,400
which I have right here, it's
been been been around my desk

671
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:28,260
for a while now, because I keep
looking looking for things. When

672
00:45:28,260 --> 00:45:30,840
you read that book, you realize
that there are huge

673
00:45:30,900 --> 00:45:35,430
contradictions. And so what
people are doing, I think, in

674
00:45:35,430 --> 00:45:38,520
this conversation is simply
moving the goalposts, those that

675
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:43,560
are intimately involved in the
programs, moving the goalposts

676
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,920
and changing their explanations,
essentially, changing the

677
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,890
narrative to fit the evidence,
but also those that have

678
00:45:49,890 --> 00:45:53,730
followed the story, which is not
helpful. Now, I opted not to do

679
00:45:53,730 --> 00:45:58,050
a breakdown of all of that,
because the believers that hate

680
00:45:58,050 --> 00:45:58,470
me,

681
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:04,140
are simply still going to hate
me. Nothing I produce, nothing I

682
00:46:04,140 --> 00:46:07,890
put out there will change their
mind and those that are

683
00:46:07,890 --> 00:46:11,370
interested in the evidence. This
is why I'm giving a short blurb

684
00:46:11,370 --> 00:46:14,910
about it is that I invite you
now that once we go through this

685
00:46:14,910 --> 00:46:18,450
evidence, and you guys have a
better understanding, as we go

686
00:46:18,450 --> 00:46:22,530
through this deep dive of the
documents, then you will be able

687
00:46:22,530 --> 00:46:27,750
to juxtapose that evidence, and
what people are saying, and if

688
00:46:27,750 --> 00:46:30,810
you feel that the government and
the intelligence community has

689
00:46:30,810 --> 00:46:35,400
created a massive conspiracy and
fraudulently created these

690
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:40,470
documents as a cover to hide and
shield, what they wanted, which

691
00:46:40,470 --> 00:46:43,920
was UFO research, then that's
great. I would be very

692
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,620
interested in that. And the
evidence to support that

693
00:46:46,620 --> 00:46:51,300
conclusion? Or is it potentially
that sweetheart deal thing that

694
00:46:51,300 --> 00:46:55,080
I've talked about now for years,
where money was allocated for

695
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:59,490
something aerospace research, to
essentially take money from that

696
00:46:59,490 --> 00:47:04,380
program, and do what certain
individuals in the DIA and in

697
00:47:04,380 --> 00:47:09,570
the private sector wanted to do?
That is a huge possibility. It

698
00:47:09,570 --> 00:47:12,510
happens all the time, I have a
video on this very channel where

699
00:47:12,510 --> 00:47:16,650
I really dug in. So in lieu of
just doing that all over again,

700
00:47:16,650 --> 00:47:20,820
and adding another hour to this
video. I invite you guys to now

701
00:47:20,820 --> 00:47:26,460
really, once we're done here,
really digest the evidence, the

702
00:47:26,460 --> 00:47:30,210
unclassified level across the
board of what this all is, and

703
00:47:30,210 --> 00:47:33,630
see what people are saying and
see if it matches up. Because

704
00:47:33,630 --> 00:47:38,340
still, I don't think it does, as
I mentioned, and I'm going to go

705
00:47:38,340 --> 00:47:41,010
back a few to a slide, forgive
me clicking through this a

706
00:47:41,010 --> 00:47:45,240
couple times. But before we get
into the documents, I want to

707
00:47:45,720 --> 00:47:49,860
show you one redaction that
you're going to see a lot. So in

708
00:47:49,860 --> 00:47:53,160
lieu of me going over it every
time. You're going to see

709
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:56,970
redactions that are cited to 10,
United States Code section 424.

710
00:47:57,240 --> 00:47:59,490
That's disclosure of
organizational and personal

711
00:47:59,490 --> 00:48:03,300
information exemption for
specified intelligence agencies,

712
00:48:03,690 --> 00:48:08,610
namely, be one of that section
for the DIA. In plain English,

713
00:48:08,610 --> 00:48:12,390
what this is, is covering up
connections, names, personal

714
00:48:12,390 --> 00:48:16,410
information, anything that
identifies things to the DIA,

715
00:48:16,710 --> 00:48:20,610
this particular statute exempts
the information, and it allows

716
00:48:20,610 --> 00:48:25,650
them to omit it. To my surprise,
the dirt authors are an example

717
00:48:25,650 --> 00:48:28,590
of that in these documents, but
the dirt authors had been

718
00:48:28,590 --> 00:48:32,280
released before not via a leak,
but rather my FOIA requests. So

719
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:35,220
why they felt the need to redact
them. I don't know. That's one

720
00:48:35,220 --> 00:48:38,910
of the silliness is of the FOIA.
But regardless, that is what

721
00:48:38,910 --> 00:48:42,120
you're going to primarily see.
So I wanted to go over that in

722
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:47,400
the FOIA, which is five United
States Code section 552. That is

723
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:51,990
exemption B, six, and B. Six is
that personal information,

724
00:48:51,990 --> 00:48:55,020
essentially, it's the same
thing. But this gives them a

725
00:48:55,020 --> 00:49:00,150
little bit more leeway to, to
redact information to protect

726
00:49:00,180 --> 00:49:04,260
dia assets, and people and so
on. So as I mentioned, the

727
00:49:04,260 --> 00:49:07,320
website that is linked below is
all in chronological order

728
00:49:07,650 --> 00:49:11,250
really helps make these
documents make sense, but also

729
00:49:11,250 --> 00:49:14,400
help you understand the picture.
That's how we're going to, we're

730
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:20,580
gonna go through this. One of
the first things that is on

731
00:49:20,580 --> 00:49:27,630
there, the first thing was from
August 22 2008. This was the

732
00:49:27,660 --> 00:49:32,340
original contract solicitation,
or the bid solicitation that was

733
00:49:32,340 --> 00:49:36,960
put out there on the the Federal
Business Opportunities website

734
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:42,930
or fbo.gov. Since then, it's
been rebranded to Sam I believe

735
00:49:42,930 --> 00:49:48,360
it is sam.gov. But that is one
of the first documents that you

736
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,810
can download. It's been publicly
available for some time, nothing

737
00:49:51,810 --> 00:49:55,650
new to report here, but rather
it's just was in the material

738
00:49:55,650 --> 00:49:59,670
the DIA released. I was just
talking about the silliness of

739
00:49:59,670 --> 00:50:05,520
the full Get in some of the
redactions, you can still on the

740
00:50:05,550 --> 00:50:09,090
get through the Wayback Machine,
the FBO site, but also on Sam,

741
00:50:09,090 --> 00:50:13,260
you can actually find this to
sam.gov. The point of contact,

742
00:50:13,260 --> 00:50:18,480
who was the DIA person, Jennifer
Silvestri. She's still listed on

743
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,930
there, you can see all this
information you had on the foyer

744
00:50:21,930 --> 00:50:27,000
release, they exempted all under
that, that US Code that I had

745
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:31,110
referred to you guys over why
they do that I have no idea.

746
00:50:31,110 --> 00:50:34,350
It's publicly available
information. I'm not hacking

747
00:50:34,350 --> 00:50:38,460
anything doing anything
sinister. It's open and public

748
00:50:38,490 --> 00:50:41,550
to everyone. Yet they felt the
need to redact it. Who knows

749
00:50:41,550 --> 00:50:47,310
why. Next document in the dump
was September 22 2008. This was

750
00:50:47,310 --> 00:50:52,830
essentially the solicitation and
contract order. For the bass

751
00:50:52,860 --> 00:50:54,540
awarded contract you see here.

752
00:50:55,830 --> 00:50:59,910
This was the one who got the
bid. They got $10 million. You

753
00:50:59,910 --> 00:51:03,840
can see that here. And what this
document does is break down what

754
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:08,730
they had to do. And here's
another page of that particular

755
00:51:08,730 --> 00:51:12,660
form. Some of those redactions
are silly, we know who some of

756
00:51:12,660 --> 00:51:15,510
these people are just by
publicly available information.

757
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:22,530
However, skipping down here,
this is what the contractor or

758
00:51:22,530 --> 00:51:25,620
in this case bass was supposed
to deliver. So what they do is,

759
00:51:25,890 --> 00:51:28,260
you can see here, please see
continuation page for line item

760
00:51:28,260 --> 00:51:31,740
details. Because there were a
lot they broke it down into a

761
00:51:31,770 --> 00:51:38,580
attached schedule. And this was
going to outline what baths for

762
00:51:38,580 --> 00:51:42,900
the $10 million. And yes, 10
million, don't worry, put a pin

763
00:51:42,900 --> 00:51:46,740
in that, I'll get you to 22
million, but what they were

764
00:51:46,740 --> 00:51:51,240
supposed to deliver for that. So
the $10 million bought the DIA,

765
00:51:51,450 --> 00:51:54,870
all of this that you see on your
screen here that included

766
00:51:54,870 --> 00:51:59,730
Bigelow Aerospace advanced Space
Studies. Let me see here monthly

767
00:51:59,730 --> 00:52:04,410
status reports from 22,
September 2008, to 29, September

768
00:52:04,410 --> 00:52:09,510
2009, project manage management
plan for tasks. And then it

769
00:52:09,510 --> 00:52:14,070
refers back to two other line
items, research report for

770
00:52:14,070 --> 00:52:17,280
tasks, so on comprehensive
integrated threat assessment,

771
00:52:17,730 --> 00:52:21,720
travel, accounting,
appropriation, other direct

772
00:52:21,720 --> 00:52:24,510
costs, which some of these line
items, again, you can see our

773
00:52:24,510 --> 00:52:28,500
blur redacted before as
essentially protecting corporate

774
00:52:28,500 --> 00:52:33,300
information so that his
competitors can't go in and see

775
00:52:33,300 --> 00:52:37,860
how they broke down the money.
Option year. Yeah, so this, this

776
00:52:37,860 --> 00:52:41,220
breaks down the monthly status
reports. And that this first

777
00:52:41,220 --> 00:52:46,050
contract was was gonna go you
can see here for 2008 to 2009,

778
00:52:46,650 --> 00:52:50,850
then the option year, the option
was after the first year, they

779
00:52:50,850 --> 00:52:53,820
can take an option to do one
other one. And I believe by the

780
00:52:53,820 --> 00:52:57,180
paperwork, they can do five
total years. So it wasn't

781
00:52:57,180 --> 00:53:01,200
supposed to be kept after the
second year. But rather, they

782
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:06,030
just didn't see value in it. But
it outlines that the first

783
00:53:06,030 --> 00:53:11,670
option year would begin in 2009,
and go to 2010, and so on and so

784
00:53:11,670 --> 00:53:16,980
forth. So it goes on from there.
What I want to outline for

785
00:53:16,980 --> 00:53:20,070
excuse me profile on this
particular document is down here

786
00:53:20,070 --> 00:53:27,270
you see this page two of 51,
page three of 51. There were

787
00:53:27,270 --> 00:53:30,780
only these these essentially
three pages in this contract,

788
00:53:31,230 --> 00:53:36,750
the 51 page number, I'm not sure
I appealed this as well. Because

789
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:41,550
if we're missing those 48 other
pages or so where are they and

790
00:53:41,550 --> 00:53:46,440
what did they say? So we have
somewhat of an idea? Is it a

791
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:49,530
mistake? Did they use a template
and this is an indicator of a

792
00:53:49,530 --> 00:53:54,900
rushed process? Quite possibly,
there's no way around that. But

793
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:59,310
and the reason why I say that is
it ends halfway on the page here

794
00:53:59,310 --> 00:54:03,330
and ends with other which most
outlines like this do when it's

795
00:54:03,330 --> 00:54:07,650
at the end. But pages four
through 51 likely may be

796
00:54:07,650 --> 00:54:11,310
something else entirely. So not
a breakdown of their schedule

797
00:54:11,310 --> 00:54:15,090
and reports and essentially the
deliverables but something else.

798
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:19,140
I found some some examples of
it. It's kind of unfair to try

799
00:54:19,140 --> 00:54:22,290
and think that this would be
exactly the same. So regardless,

800
00:54:22,290 --> 00:54:26,040
I appealed saying, hey, it looks
like you guys ignored these

801
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:29,520
pages and did not give them to
me. So we'll see what what comes

802
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:35,160
out of that appeal. December
16 2008, this file comes up.

803
00:54:35,940 --> 00:54:39,390
It's a PowerPoint presentation,
advanced aerospace weapon system

804
00:54:39,390 --> 00:54:42,930
applications contract status.
The contract number you see

805
00:54:42,930 --> 00:54:50,100
there H H M 402 Dash 08 Dash c
dash 0072. That was known as the

806
00:54:50,100 --> 00:54:53,430
identifier for OSS app. It's on
the contract if you look at it,

807
00:54:54,240 --> 00:55:00,000
and again dated 16 December of
2008 all unclassified and this

808
00:55:00,330 --> 00:55:02,910
If you follow along the
chronology was not too long

809
00:55:02,940 --> 00:55:07,770
after just a couple of months
after the OS app started, it was

810
00:55:07,770 --> 00:55:11,040
awarded and started advanced
unconventional aerospace weapons

811
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:14,580
system technical studies, threat
projections through 2050

812
00:55:14,580 --> 00:55:19,530
timeframe, not extrapolations of
current technology, in the

813
00:55:19,530 --> 00:55:24,210
following areas lift propulsion
control, all of this is very

814
00:55:24,210 --> 00:55:27,840
much the same as what we've
already gone over. So all SAP

815
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:32,400
was supposed to be forward
looking at at the technology of

816
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:33,000
the future.

817
00:55:35,490 --> 00:55:39,660
Another page in that same slide
presentation in December,

818
00:55:40,620 --> 00:55:43,770
initial contract status brief
was given to and then a name

819
00:55:43,770 --> 00:55:49,500
redacted on 10 November, subject
was raised by Senator Reid and a

820
00:55:49,500 --> 00:55:54,180
meeting with redacted on 13th
November. So just a couple of

821
00:55:54,180 --> 00:55:59,640
months in Senator Reid is
already showing interest in what

822
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:04,620
is going on with this program
that he funded. I will say, but

823
00:56:04,620 --> 00:56:08,550
I'm not saying that it just
never happens. It's not really

824
00:56:08,550 --> 00:56:13,260
common from what I've seen to
have sitting senators like

825
00:56:13,260 --> 00:56:18,450
follow that closely what's going
on with a program on that level.

826
00:56:18,630 --> 00:56:22,080
Now, let me stress on that
level. Of course, they follow

827
00:56:23,340 --> 00:56:27,660
developments, they get briefed
themselves, sometimes they held

828
00:56:27,660 --> 00:56:32,580
hearings, and so on. But in
meetings like this four, out of

829
00:56:32,580 --> 00:56:36,240
all of the classified and
unclassified things that dia are

830
00:56:36,240 --> 00:56:40,380
doing, he just happens to show
interest in the one contract

831
00:56:40,380 --> 00:56:45,120
that he helped fund that got
awarded to the corporation that

832
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:50,280
was in his great State of
Nevada. Coincidence? Again, it

833
00:56:50,310 --> 00:56:53,010
leads into that sweetheart deal
thing, why was he so interested?

834
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:56,640
Maybe it was just a curiosity,
and that's fine before you sent

835
00:56:56,640 --> 00:57:00,900
me hate mail. That that's fine.
If it was just curiosity. All

836
00:57:00,900 --> 00:57:03,660
I'm saying is there's not a
whole lot of examples where

837
00:57:03,660 --> 00:57:08,220
senators are doing just that, in
these types of situations.

838
00:57:09,240 --> 00:57:12,810
Bigelow Aerospace advanced Space
Studies submitted complete

839
00:57:12,810 --> 00:57:17,640
program management plans in the
12 technical areas on 21

840
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:20,580
November for dia comment and
approval. So obviously the

841
00:57:20,580 --> 00:57:24,240
contract was playing out. They
were figuring out what those

842
00:57:24,270 --> 00:57:27,690
dirt reports essentially what
would become the dirt what they

843
00:57:27,690 --> 00:57:31,110
were going to be. technical
approaches being implemented by

844
00:57:31,110 --> 00:57:33,960
contractor are established
traditional techniques with an

845
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:37,230
intended scope of contract.
Technical Report deliverables

846
00:57:37,230 --> 00:57:39,960
will be under subcontract within
two months and completed within

847
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:43,500
seven months. equal amount
monthly payments to Contractor

848
00:57:43,500 --> 00:57:46,740
have commenced and allowed for
research subcontracts to be put

849
00:57:46,740 --> 00:57:50,340
into place quickly, obviously,
referring to the dirt authors,

850
00:57:51,300 --> 00:57:54,600
difficulties and establishing a
research effort from the ground

851
00:57:54,630 --> 00:57:57,600
up, staff management
consultants, clearances

852
00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:01,080
facilities, is noted in this
PowerPoint presentation as a

853
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:07,200
challenge. program management
plans 12 PMPs are very good to

854
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:10,260
excellent. I wonder how they
determine like what's very good

855
00:58:10,260 --> 00:58:13,950
and what's Excellent. But I
don't know that multiple reports

856
00:58:13,950 --> 00:58:17,340
and each technical area within
the contracted period. In

857
00:58:17,340 --> 00:58:21,510
general, each PMP has two to
four feasibility of technical

858
00:58:21,510 --> 00:58:26,070
concept studies, suggested
comparison of the aerospace

859
00:58:26,070 --> 00:58:30,090
vehicle concept with observable
data review literature for

860
00:58:30,090 --> 00:58:33,060
recent concept proposed by
academia and national labs,

861
00:58:33,510 --> 00:58:35,850
information exchange with
government contractors in the

862
00:58:35,850 --> 00:58:38,280
aerospace and electronics
sectors. So obviously, this

863
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:41,310
PowerPoint, I didn't go over
every slide. So those are just

864
00:58:41,310 --> 00:58:45,000
some mixed pages on some
highlights. But again, you can

865
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:48,180
download the full presentation,
but obviously at this stage of

866
00:58:48,180 --> 00:58:51,870
the game, still ramping up,
still figuring things out, still

867
00:58:51,870 --> 00:58:57,300
moving forward. jumped to
January 5 2009. This was a

868
00:58:57,300 --> 00:59:01,380
different type of document in
the dump. You can see the

869
00:59:01,380 --> 00:59:04,620
highlighted section there,
Senator Reed visit to redacted

870
00:59:04,620 --> 00:59:09,450
five January 2009. So Senator
Reid coming back to likely

871
00:59:09,450 --> 00:59:12,570
somewhere in the DIA. If I were
to venture a guess, by the way,

872
00:59:12,570 --> 00:59:15,960
this is the defense warning
office. One of those silly

873
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:19,470
things that I don't know why
they redact but we do know from

874
00:59:19,470 --> 00:59:25,470
the leaks that the defense
warning office was the office

875
00:59:25,470 --> 00:59:31,710
within the DIA that that led
this effort. The purpose of this

876
00:59:31,710 --> 00:59:36,120
particular memo to provide
redacted with the current status

877
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:38,910
of the advanced aerospace weapon
system application contract.

878
00:59:39,150 --> 00:59:43,290
Should Senator Reid raise the
topic. This obviously

879
00:59:43,290 --> 00:59:47,430
establishes that read based on
that previous document already

880
00:59:47,430 --> 00:59:50,250
has this interest. He's already
raising it just a couple months

881
00:59:50,250 --> 00:59:54,390
and and obviously is showing a
big interest. So before his

882
00:59:54,390 --> 00:59:58,020
visit, looks like about three
days before their briefing,

883
00:59:58,020 --> 01:00:00,960
whomever is going to be involved
in that Eating or at least one

884
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:06,180
of them about offset what
they're doing. And just in case

885
01:00:06,180 --> 01:00:08,580
that Harry Reid shows an
interest in any raises the

886
01:00:08,580 --> 01:00:12,360
topic, which I found interesting
that they went to this level of

887
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:16,170
planning, because he probably
indicated he was very interested

888
01:00:16,170 --> 01:00:20,340
in it. Jumping down to the
talking points, I'm skipping

889
01:00:20,340 --> 01:00:22,470
stuff again that we've already
kind of went over but I invite

890
01:00:22,470 --> 01:00:25,890
you to read it all. Talking
Points, reviewed the PMPs and

891
01:00:25,890 --> 01:00:29,910
rated them as very good to
excellent redacted granted bass

892
01:00:29,940 --> 01:00:34,140
approval to proceed with the
technical reports may be likely

893
01:00:34,140 --> 01:00:37,290
McCaskey there, but obviously a
name.

894
01:00:38,730 --> 01:00:41,910
Facility clearance the Defense
Security Service conducted a

895
01:00:41,910 --> 01:00:46,830
site inspection on the bass
facility on 17 December 2008.

896
01:00:47,250 --> 01:00:50,460
The inspection was completed
satisfactorily, and the facility

897
01:00:50,460 --> 01:00:55,020
clearance process is expected to
be completed shortly. Contract

898
01:00:55,020 --> 01:00:58,260
is on track. The contract is
currently proceeding on schedule

899
01:00:58,260 --> 01:01:01,110
and within cost. The technical
reports will be under

900
01:01:01,110 --> 01:01:07,230
subcontract by February of 2009
and completed by the end of July

901
01:01:07,530 --> 01:01:14,730
2009. So those were the the
polling point that they wanted

902
01:01:14,730 --> 01:01:18,150
to prepare for January of 2009.
For reads visit fast forward to

903
01:01:18,150 --> 01:01:24,270
May 4 2009. Here's another visit
by Senator Harry Reid visit to

904
01:01:24,270 --> 01:01:29,610
the director of the DIA and the
same thing to provide redacted

905
01:01:29,610 --> 01:01:32,370
with the current status of the
advanced aerospace weapon system

906
01:01:32,370 --> 01:01:37,200
applications contract. Should
Senator Reid raise the topic. So

907
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:40,590
here months later, they remain
prepared a lot of those things

908
01:01:40,590 --> 01:01:44,430
and points and everything are
the same. A lot of the same

909
01:01:44,430 --> 01:01:48,090
background information anyway,
Senator Reid sponsored language

910
01:01:48,090 --> 01:01:51,870
in the July 28, supplemental
appropriation bills so on and so

911
01:01:51,870 --> 01:01:57,510
forth. And it breaks down
everything. The same memo and

912
01:01:57,510 --> 01:02:01,920
may 4 the establishment of a
fiscal year 2010 University

913
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:04,530
grant program for advanced
aerospace research and

914
01:02:04,530 --> 01:02:08,580
experimentation, focusing on the
best grad schools in the US has

915
01:02:08,580 --> 01:02:12,330
commenced. That's pretty cool.
Now I don't pretend to say that

916
01:02:12,330 --> 01:02:15,780
I've listened to every single
interview that those connected

917
01:02:15,780 --> 01:02:20,880
to OS app have given. But that
seems new to me. I don't know

918
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:23,850
that doesn't ring a bell. So I'm
not entirely sure what that's

919
01:02:23,850 --> 01:02:28,650
referring to or what they did at
all. Again, back to the memo.

920
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:31,770
This contract is providing a
unique opportunity for dia to

921
01:02:31,770 --> 01:02:34,890
both understand very advanced
aerospace related technology and

922
01:02:34,890 --> 01:02:38,130
to determine its threat
potential to the United States.

923
01:02:38,670 --> 01:02:41,760
As the effort expands in the
future with one worldwide

924
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:45,780
calibrated data collection to
world class expert analysis

925
01:02:45,810 --> 01:02:49,470
three, university and national
lab collaboration for

926
01:02:49,740 --> 01:02:52,890
information exchange with major
aerospace and electronic firms

927
01:02:53,130 --> 01:02:58,020
and five enhanced oni and Neysa
cooperation. Dia will be the

928
01:02:58,020 --> 01:03:00,840
integrating force behind the
development of a center of

929
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:05,550
excellence in the area of
advanced aerospace weapon system

930
01:03:05,550 --> 01:03:09,540
applications. The continued
support and guidance of Senator

931
01:03:09,810 --> 01:03:13,140
Reid and Senator in your way is
crucial to the success of this

932
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:13,680
endeavor.

933
01:03:19,230 --> 01:03:23,670
noting here that on May 8, these
two documents naval labeled

934
01:03:23,670 --> 01:03:27,030
briefs you can download I'm just
gonna go over one slight

935
01:03:27,030 --> 01:03:29,910
differences which explains the
page count difference, but

936
01:03:29,910 --> 01:03:32,220
essentially they were advanced
aerospace weapon system

937
01:03:32,220 --> 01:03:36,420
application contract status
reports or rather PowerPoint

938
01:03:36,420 --> 01:03:43,530
presentations. You can see here
again eighth may 2009. Overview

939
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:46,140
support for contract was
mentioned by Senator Harry Reid

940
01:03:46,140 --> 01:03:50,880
and a meeting with redacted on
13th November 2008. So clearly

941
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:54,420
they are continuing that
awareness that Senator Harry

942
01:03:54,420 --> 01:03:59,130
Reid is actively interested in
this difficulty in establishing

943
01:03:59,130 --> 01:04:02,430
a research effort from the
ground up staff management

944
01:04:02,430 --> 01:04:04,740
consultants, clearances
facilities have been quickly and

945
01:04:04,740 --> 01:04:07,620
successfully resolved. So
remember that challenge that I

946
01:04:07,620 --> 01:04:11,310
mentioned to you just months
prior? Now it is listed as a

947
01:04:11,310 --> 01:04:16,170
overcome challenge. The
immediate way ahead, begin

948
01:04:16,170 --> 01:04:19,440
publishing the 24 technical
report deliverables as soon as

949
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:23,070
possible. Continue to build
research database architecture,

950
01:04:23,730 --> 01:04:26,880
initiate University national lab
research grant solicitation

951
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:31,020
program, ensure that this
special compartmentalize

952
01:04:31,020 --> 01:04:34,020
information personal security
clearances continue to be

953
01:04:34,020 --> 01:04:36,840
quickly and successfully
processed. And that Skiff

954
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:41,250
certification is granted Tabas
begin processing of lower level

955
01:04:41,250 --> 01:04:44,490
clearances through disco as part
of focused counter intelligence

956
01:04:44,910 --> 01:04:50,250
efforts. So this was their plan
for the future as of May of

957
01:04:50,250 --> 01:04:54,840
2009. Now remember, we've set up
such a interest by Harry Reid

958
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:57,600
here the dirts haven't been
delivered yet. But they're

959
01:04:57,600 --> 01:05:02,700
saying let's do this fast. Now.
Here we're going from May of

960
01:05:02,700 --> 01:05:08,190
2009. To the next month, June
24 2009. This is the infamous

961
01:05:08,190 --> 01:05:13,200
Harry Reid letter requesting SAP
status for essentially OS app

962
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:19,350
which he nicknamed a tip or
erroneously a ITP, which was

963
01:05:19,350 --> 01:05:22,710
essentially copied and pasted to
numerous other documents. But

964
01:05:22,740 --> 01:05:26,820
how he broke it down advanced
aerospace threat and

965
01:05:26,850 --> 01:05:33,270
identification program, and then
incorrectly put a ITP instead of

966
01:05:33,300 --> 01:05:38,970
a tip. Regardless, though, that
name kind of stuck. But this is

967
01:05:38,970 --> 01:05:44,070
when He submitted his request to
the Deputy Secretary of Defense,

968
01:05:44,070 --> 01:05:48,750
namely William Lind the third to
give it SAP status. Now, on a

969
01:05:48,750 --> 01:05:51,240
side note, I'm not going to go
too deep into that letter, but

970
01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:55,110
I've done a full video breakdown
on the mystery behind that

971
01:05:55,110 --> 01:05:59,190
letter. There is a big story
behind it, meaning, there's a

972
01:05:59,190 --> 01:06:04,500
lot of detail and very weird
occurrences about it. So make

973
01:06:04,500 --> 01:06:06,780
sure if you're interested, I'll
put that in the show notes

974
01:06:06,780 --> 01:06:09,750
below. If you're interested in
that letter, definitely take a

975
01:06:09,750 --> 01:06:13,350
look. Because my research on
that went well over a year or

976
01:06:13,350 --> 01:06:17,880
two, trying to track it down.
And I showed ample proof that it

977
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:22,350
seems like that That letter was
just gone and just vanished. So

978
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:26,370
take that for what it's worth.
I'm kind of following up on one

979
01:06:26,370 --> 01:06:29,130
other lead. Hopefully I'll have
an update for you guys. But

980
01:06:29,370 --> 01:06:37,200
check out that video if you're
interested. So that was sorry,

981
01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:39,090
here's I flipped over I want to
make sure I have the dates right

982
01:06:39,090 --> 01:06:43,590
so that was June of 2009.
Jumping to a PowerPoint

983
01:06:43,590 --> 01:06:47,820
presentation contract status on
August 24th 2009. performance by

984
01:06:47,820 --> 01:06:50,880
Bigelow Aerospace advanced Space
Studies has been excellent and

985
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:53,910
they are in full compliance
compliance with aerospace

986
01:06:53,910 --> 01:06:57,390
contract and then it gives the
AAS HAP contract. Extensive

987
01:06:57,390 --> 01:07:00,480
monthly status reports received
12 project management plans

988
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:04,920
received and executed 26.
detailed research reports twice

989
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:09,660
the minimum requirement received
by 30 June 2009. Reviews of

990
01:07:09,660 --> 01:07:13,080
reports have been overwhelmingly
positive, recommend that dia

991
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:16,170
should go forward with the
option you're one with bass

992
01:07:16,290 --> 01:07:20,220
subject to available funding $12
million for the continuation of

993
01:07:20,220 --> 01:07:23,940
that contract by dia has been
submitted in the fiscal year

994
01:07:23,940 --> 01:07:27,900
2010 defense budget funding
likely to be approved. Remember

995
01:07:27,900 --> 01:07:31,620
I said I'd get you to 22
million. So you're number one 10

996
01:07:31,620 --> 01:07:35,370
million year option year number
one, technically, your number

997
01:07:35,370 --> 01:07:40,950
two would be 12 million for a
total of 22. Going forward in

998
01:07:40,950 --> 01:07:43,830
that presentation contracting
officer will extend this

999
01:07:43,830 --> 01:07:48,240
contract through 30. September,
in order to use fiscal year 2010

1000
01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:51,690
funds and option year one
extension will be at no

1001
01:07:51,690 --> 01:07:53,760
additional cost to the
government. I think that was

1002
01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:56,940
just a legal thing. That way
they could keep bass going

1003
01:07:56,940 --> 01:08:00,570
through that timeframe to get to
fiscal year 2010. And just

1004
01:08:00,570 --> 01:08:02,880
immediately continue with with
the funding.

1005
01:08:04,290 --> 01:08:07,230
Bass has indicated that they are
willing to operate at risk and

1006
01:08:07,230 --> 01:08:10,800
option year one until fiscal
year 2010 funding arrives

1007
01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:13,410
essentially bass was saying,
Hey, we're pretty comfortable,

1008
01:08:13,410 --> 01:08:16,500
you guys are going to get it and
keep us on it was already stated

1009
01:08:16,500 --> 01:08:20,100
as such. So they were just going
to keep going and that Robert

1010
01:08:20,100 --> 01:08:23,310
Bigelow would essentially front
the bills until they would start

1011
01:08:23,340 --> 01:08:27,480
paying again from fiscal year
2010 funds, the funds the joys

1012
01:08:27,480 --> 01:08:32,040
of government funding and
contracts. Option your one

1013
01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:37,080
deliverables. CLI and by the way
is contract line item number so

1014
01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:39,210
that calls back to those
contracts that I was talking

1015
01:08:39,210 --> 01:08:43,080
about. And the different
breakaway line items 12 monthly

1016
01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:46,830
status reports 12 area
management plans delivery by

1017
01:08:46,830 --> 01:08:52,680
June of 2010. Where I want to
also note I appealed this as

1018
01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:57,270
well. Even though there are
periodic PowerPoint

1019
01:08:57,270 --> 01:09:01,920
presentations inside dia, which
is one of which we're looking at

1020
01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:07,410
now from August of 2009. These
contracts stipulate that VAs was

1021
01:09:07,410 --> 01:09:12,030
supposed to be doing monthly
status reports of their own and

1022
01:09:12,030 --> 01:09:15,960
submitting them to dia. So what
you're looking at is the DIA

1023
01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:21,150
status report likely. This is a
guess, created by James

1024
01:09:21,150 --> 01:09:24,390
McCaskey. He's very
complimentary on bass. I think

1025
01:09:24,390 --> 01:09:29,310
that he wanted that contract to
continue. But again, just just a

1026
01:09:29,340 --> 01:09:32,970
it's just speculation there. But
I'm guessing he did the

1027
01:09:33,030 --> 01:09:36,750
PowerPoints that we're looking
at now. But by the paperwork,

1028
01:09:37,410 --> 01:09:41,670
bass would have done monthly
status reports submitted to dia,

1029
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:45,720
that dia would take all of those
and evaluate meaning McCaskey

1030
01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:49,560
and however many people he had
working on this team, if any,

1031
01:09:49,860 --> 01:09:54,270
and then create these these
status PowerPoint presentations

1032
01:09:54,270 --> 01:09:57,360
to give to his boss and
essentially justify everybody's

1033
01:09:57,360 --> 01:10:00,240
paycheck. And why are they
getting 10s of million Hands up

1034
01:10:00,240 --> 01:10:04,080
dollars. While this is why it's
excellent, it's great. They're

1035
01:10:04,110 --> 01:10:07,320
they're fulfilling, there's no
extra cost here. They're doing

1036
01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:10,530
this. They're doing that. It's
all great fine and dandy. Let's

1037
01:10:10,530 --> 01:10:14,400
keep going. And so that's that's
what I see here. But I appealed,

1038
01:10:14,730 --> 01:10:19,530
based on this evidence that none
of those monthly bass reports

1039
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:23,850
were released. Now I call them
bass reports. But yes, they will

1040
01:10:23,850 --> 01:10:27,840
be subject to FOIA. Why? Because
they are deliverables on a

1041
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:31,380
government contract, not a
grant. So they are not

1042
01:10:31,380 --> 01:10:34,920
proprietary information, in my
opinion, and there is no

1043
01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:38,610
indicator here as much as others
have tried to claim that some of

1044
01:10:38,610 --> 01:10:42,240
that information would remain
proprietary. Would portions

1045
01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:47,910
remain exempt? Under B four?
Yes, they would we see that in

1046
01:10:47,910 --> 01:10:52,290
the contract that was that I
showed you guys on screen with

1047
01:10:52,290 --> 01:10:55,710
the before redactions, generally
how the money breaks out. So we

1048
01:10:55,710 --> 01:10:59,100
know that $10 million went over
there, it's taxpayer money, we

1049
01:10:59,100 --> 01:11:03,240
want to account for it in an
unclassified setting, but how

1050
01:11:03,270 --> 01:11:07,200
then a private contractor
divvies up that money, what they

1051
01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:11,640
spend it on and so on, there are
protections under FOIA that

1052
01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:15,300
shields that so that way
competitors can't come and spy

1053
01:11:15,300 --> 01:11:20,610
and, and so on and so forth. So
that is kind of a quick

1054
01:11:20,610 --> 01:11:25,530
explanation of that. But but for
the information to be entirely

1055
01:11:26,550 --> 01:11:32,040
untouchable by FOIA is untrue,
if it is in the contract to be

1056
01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:37,080
delivered to dia, why, again,
taxpayer money, you and I paid

1057
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:39,960
for it if you're in America, if
you're in the world, I know you

1058
01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:44,880
want to see it anyway. Same
presentation, August of 2,024th

1059
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:48,510
of 2009 program management
issues redacted will be

1060
01:11:48,510 --> 01:11:53,010
transferring to redacted during
fiscal year 2010. I am not sure.

1061
01:11:53,220 --> 01:11:57,630
Nor will I speculate with that
is redacted due to economical

1062
01:11:57,630 --> 01:12:01,080
issues will not be transferring.
So, I don't know if those are

1063
01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:05,640
people or potentially offices or
what program will likely become

1064
01:12:06,210 --> 01:12:12,870
a sap by June of 2010. So
obviously, whomever wrote this

1065
01:12:13,050 --> 01:12:17,790
assumed that the DoD would
create a sap and knew that Harry

1066
01:12:17,790 --> 01:12:21,450
Reid had asked the Deputy
Secretary of Defense about it.

1067
01:12:21,870 --> 01:12:24,870
Remember that letter went to the
Deputy Secretary of Defense. So

1068
01:12:24,870 --> 01:12:28,500
how much did it circulate? We
don't know. But whoever was

1069
01:12:28,500 --> 01:12:32,370
creating these PowerPoints knew
darn well the request was in.

1070
01:12:32,580 --> 01:12:35,970
And he believed based on an
assumption that was wrong. That

1071
01:12:35,970 --> 01:12:40,740
OS app would become a sap a
special access program that

1072
01:12:40,740 --> 01:12:44,040
would essentially give it a lot
more access than what I've

1073
01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:49,560
currently had. Best option
appears to be to move, redacted

1074
01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:52,680
and program to redacted during
this time.

1075
01:12:54,180 --> 01:12:57,600
can also assist redacted in his
role as redacted. So we're not

1076
01:12:57,630 --> 01:13:01,740
we're not sure who this is. We
can speculate, sure, but we have

1077
01:13:01,740 --> 01:13:04,560
no idea who these individuals
are that are being protected

1078
01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:09,990
there. September 2 2009. Here's
the amendment of solicitation or

1079
01:13:09,990 --> 01:13:14,970
the modification of a contract
essentially, option year one.

1080
01:13:15,210 --> 01:13:20,430
This was the extension for the
$12 million that went here, you

1081
01:13:20,430 --> 01:13:23,940
go to Bigelow Aerospace. And
then you can see here the

1082
01:13:23,940 --> 01:13:28,200
checkmark, this supplemental
agreement is is entered into

1083
01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:32,820
pursuant to the authority of so
on and so forth. So it's a

1084
01:13:32,820 --> 01:13:35,640
little hard to read on my
screen, I apologize. But here's

1085
01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:39,360
kind of the key takeaway. The
purpose of this modification is

1086
01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:43,170
to a extend the current period
of performance to 30, September

1087
01:13:43,410 --> 01:13:52,140
2009. Revise option your dates
to be one October 2009 to 30,

1088
01:13:52,140 --> 01:13:55,350
September 2010. Remember how
they said that they were going

1089
01:13:55,350 --> 01:13:58,020
to extend at no costs.
Essentially, this was the

1090
01:13:58,020 --> 01:14:02,190
contract to then push it forward
to 30. September, which was the

1091
01:14:02,190 --> 01:14:07,290
end of the fiscal year, get it
into fiscal year 2010. And then

1092
01:14:07,290 --> 01:14:11,280
enter letter C here. Exercise
option year one subject to

1093
01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:14,520
availability of funds, everybody
was pretty confident that the

1094
01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:19,440
funds were going to be there. D
there's a reference to law if

1095
01:14:19,440 --> 01:14:22,440
they are I'm not entirely sure
what that is. Not important.

1096
01:14:22,650 --> 01:14:24,900
Funds are not presently
available for this contract. The

1097
01:14:24,900 --> 01:14:27,570
government's obligation under
this contract is contingent upon

1098
01:14:27,570 --> 01:14:30,480
the availability of appropriated
funds from which payment for

1099
01:14:30,480 --> 01:14:33,810
contract purposes can be made.
No legal liability on the part

1100
01:14:33,810 --> 01:14:36,600
of the government for any
payment may arise until funds

1101
01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:38,670
are made available to the
contracting officer for the

1102
01:14:38,670 --> 01:14:41,340
contract. And until the
contractor receives notice of

1103
01:14:41,340 --> 01:14:44,160
such availability to be
confirmed in writing by the

1104
01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:47,580
contracting officer. You lawyers
out there will love all of that

1105
01:14:47,580 --> 01:14:51,690
word salad. And then finally, e
all other terms of condition

1106
01:14:51,690 --> 01:14:55,470
remain unchanged. So plain
English, extending the contract

1107
01:14:55,500 --> 01:14:59,160
getting additional funds and
getting a second year or what

1108
01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:05,490
they labeled option. In year
one, October 32,009. Here was a

1109
01:15:05,490 --> 01:15:09,600
information memo. That was a
review of the advanced aerospace

1110
01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:12,660
contract deliverables. So now
those first sets of dirts came

1111
01:15:12,660 --> 01:15:17,790
in. In the memo itself, as a
reminder, you made this request

1112
01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:24,090
to redacted personnel during a
15 May 2009. Meeting with you

1113
01:15:24,150 --> 01:15:27,720
after your meeting with Senator
Harry Reid. The goal of the

1114
01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:30,330
contract is to identify key
technologies and physics

1115
01:15:30,330 --> 01:15:33,840
concepts that would support
revolutionary aerospace vehicle

1116
01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:37,230
research and development.
Contracted studies were designed

1117
01:15:37,230 --> 01:15:41,820
to provide a prioritized list of
technologies concepts that then

1118
01:15:41,820 --> 01:15:44,370
would drive detailed focus
searches into foreign aerospace

1119
01:15:44,370 --> 01:15:48,090
research and development, again,
reinforcing this aerospace

1120
01:15:48,090 --> 01:15:52,410
research to create essentially
these reports on what's

1121
01:15:52,410 --> 01:15:57,390
feasible, what could potentially
harm us 20 3040 years from now.

1122
01:15:57,990 --> 01:16:02,850
So therefore, what should be we
be researching? Fast forward in

1123
01:16:02,850 --> 01:16:06,150
the memo, eight reviews were
performed by other authors

1124
01:16:06,150 --> 01:16:10,740
listed in the table? Five were
performed by outside reviewers,

1125
01:16:10,740 --> 01:16:14,550
including three research staff
members at Sandia National

1126
01:16:14,550 --> 01:16:17,940
Laboratories. So now, I don't
know if you'd consider this

1127
01:16:17,940 --> 01:16:21,420
technically a peer review. But
it was being reviewed by peer

1128
01:16:21,420 --> 01:16:26,220
scientific peers, five of which
were, or excuse me, three of

1129
01:16:26,220 --> 01:16:29,400
which were staff members at
Sandia National Labs. Yes, I

1130
01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:33,870
have filed FOIA cases there to
try and track down what was what

1131
01:16:33,870 --> 01:16:38,010
was the connection was this
outside of their official duty,

1132
01:16:38,010 --> 01:16:42,030
and they asked for a favor was
this official? I don't know. I'm

1133
01:16:42,030 --> 01:16:44,280
not aware of anybody ever
addressing that, but I'm going

1134
01:16:44,280 --> 01:16:48,570
after the documents nonetheless.
So if you look a little bit

1135
01:16:49,320 --> 01:16:53,400
further into the same metal here
October 30. Based on draft

1136
01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:55,770
budget guidance, Congress
apparently will fund the

1137
01:16:55,770 --> 01:16:59,970
contracts option near one at 12
million in fiscal year 2010.

1138
01:17:00,090 --> 01:17:04,620
redacted, will use the 26th
fiscal year 2009 technical

1139
01:17:04,620 --> 01:17:08,820
reports and having bass evaluate
potential adversary exploitation

1140
01:17:08,820 --> 01:17:12,060
worldwide, select studies
amenable to classified

1141
01:17:12,060 --> 01:17:16,320
experimental verification by
bass and have bass conduct new

1142
01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:19,800
classified and unclassified
studies with select academic and

1143
01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:23,820
industry partners. deliverables
are expected in late summer

1144
01:17:24,060 --> 01:17:25,170
2010.

1145
01:17:26,700 --> 01:17:29,970
I don't see any, I'm just going
to point it out. Even I'm not

1146
01:17:29,970 --> 01:17:32,070
going to beat the dead horse
throughout this I've been trying

1147
01:17:32,070 --> 01:17:36,900
not to. But we're at October
32,009, numerous internal dia

1148
01:17:36,900 --> 01:17:40,470
documents, and PowerPoint
presentations information memos

1149
01:17:40,710 --> 01:17:45,870
tying into visitors by a sitting
United States Senator, namely

1150
01:17:45,870 --> 01:17:48,930
Harry Reid, who was not just
kind of a nobody in the US

1151
01:17:48,930 --> 01:17:53,940
Senate. And yet not one mention
of anything paranormal, Dyno,

1152
01:17:53,940 --> 01:18:03,720
beavers, cryptids Skinwalker
Ranch UFOs UAAP. Nothing, but

1153
01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:08,460
rather exactly like the contract
said, they were looking at this

1154
01:18:08,460 --> 01:18:11,670
aerospace technology to
essentially create the center of

1155
01:18:11,670 --> 01:18:15,300
expertise, where we can look and
say, okay, look, this seems the

1156
01:18:15,300 --> 01:18:19,320
most feasible that in 30 years
from now China could have this,

1157
01:18:19,500 --> 01:18:23,130
Russia could have this arann
could have this. So instead of

1158
01:18:23,130 --> 01:18:26,760
sitting back and waiting for it,
we should research this. And

1159
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:30,270
since this was a complete
failure, we should not research

1160
01:18:30,270 --> 01:18:34,320
that. Essentially, this is what
I'm taking away from all of this

1161
01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:36,660
research and all of this
language on what they were

1162
01:18:36,660 --> 01:18:42,240
trying to accomplish. And
ironically, about ish, 40 years

1163
01:18:42,240 --> 01:18:45,600
prior to OS app, there was
something called Project

1164
01:18:45,630 --> 01:18:50,100
outgrowth. And project outgrowth
was a nearly identical study,

1165
01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:54,060
looking at forward looking
technology and what could

1166
01:18:54,060 --> 01:18:57,090
potentially we can see in the
future, and so on and so forth.

1167
01:18:57,330 --> 01:19:01,380
Very, very similar to offset one
of those things that was

1168
01:19:01,590 --> 01:19:05,850
researched and project outgrowth
controlling a craft with the

1169
01:19:05,850 --> 01:19:10,230
power of the human brain. So
this type of fringe research, if

1170
01:19:10,230 --> 01:19:15,120
it was that is not new, but
there's no talk of it in the

1171
01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:19,470
status reports, or anything, but
rather, it coincides with that

1172
01:19:19,470 --> 01:19:24,180
public vision of what OS app
was. And when I say public, it

1173
01:19:24,180 --> 01:19:28,920
was publicly posted in 2008. And
that's what all these documents

1174
01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:35,430
are kind of, in my, in my
opinion, showing that memo also

1175
01:19:35,430 --> 01:19:38,190
had attached some of the
reviews, I invite you to read

1176
01:19:38,190 --> 01:19:40,380
them, I'm not going to go
through them, obviously glowing

1177
01:19:40,380 --> 01:19:43,860
reviews by whomever they chose
to review, whether that was

1178
01:19:43,860 --> 01:19:49,290
planned or a true peer review. I
don't know. This particular

1179
01:19:49,290 --> 01:19:53,670
document, we're going to assume
it's November of 2009. This

1180
01:19:53,670 --> 01:19:56,970
particular one was not a member
I said earlier in this

1181
01:19:56,970 --> 01:20:01,860
presentation. There was one that
was not sent out via A FOIA this

1182
01:20:01,860 --> 01:20:05,550
was that document. I don't know
why it could just have been an

1183
01:20:05,550 --> 01:20:09,810
oversight. I'm just not aware of
anybody, including myself

1184
01:20:09,810 --> 01:20:12,240
getting it through FOIA, but it
popped up on the reading room.

1185
01:20:12,540 --> 01:20:15,570
Now it's deleted, but I had
snatched it and put it on the

1186
01:20:15,570 --> 01:20:18,570
website, so you will be able to
download it in the link below.

1187
01:20:19,410 --> 01:20:22,590
Based on the information within
it's probably about November

1188
01:20:22,590 --> 01:20:26,670
2009. In this timeframe, review
of Special Access Program

1189
01:20:26,700 --> 01:20:31,740
request. Senator Harry Reid
letter to the honorable william

1190
01:20:31,740 --> 01:20:37,200
Lind, the third Deputy Secretary
of Defense, dated 24, June 2009.

1191
01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:40,620
That's the infamous Harry Reid
SAP request letter. Key

1192
01:20:40,620 --> 01:20:44,310
takeaways from this memo, who
was written for Miss Honi, or

1193
01:20:44,310 --> 01:20:49,080
honey Smith, who was the
director of special programs

1194
01:20:49,440 --> 01:20:52,380
within the Office of the
Undersecretary of Defense for

1195
01:20:52,380 --> 01:20:57,450
intelligence. I won't expand on
that yet. But maybe you guys can

1196
01:20:57,450 --> 01:21:02,970
start filling in the blanks on
director of special programs in

1197
01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:08,580
Oh Usdi. Now it's called Oh,
Usdi and s they have changed the

1198
01:21:08,580 --> 01:21:13,590
name. But regardless more on
that at a little later date. Key

1199
01:21:13,590 --> 01:21:15,870
takeaways from the memo, we
cannot find adequate

1200
01:21:15,870 --> 01:21:19,350
justification to establish a
restricted SAP. So they looked

1201
01:21:19,350 --> 01:21:22,500
at Harry Reid's request, looked
at what OS app was doing, have

1202
01:21:22,500 --> 01:21:27,000
no idea why he requested it. All
of the eighth tip, or you can

1203
01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:31,050
see here the copy and paste a
ITP referencing Harry Reid's

1204
01:21:31,050 --> 01:21:35,130
letter. We know that's wrong.
All of the AI TP documents

1205
01:21:35,130 --> 01:21:39,330
delivered to redacted again,
that's where I think DW O is

1206
01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:44,010
defense warning office during
the first year, fiscal year 2009

1207
01:21:44,010 --> 01:21:48,750
were unclassified, as the
contractor had yet to establish

1208
01:21:48,750 --> 01:21:52,470
a secure facility, and the
employees were going through the

1209
01:21:52,470 --> 01:21:55,980
vetting process for their
clearances. So that entire first

1210
01:21:55,980 --> 01:22:01,740
year, they didn't have the
proper facility to essentially

1211
01:22:01,740 --> 01:22:05,850
house classified material or
information.

1212
01:22:07,650 --> 01:22:09,870
That that's key, I think I have
a slide for it, if not all

1213
01:22:09,870 --> 01:22:13,470
pointed out anyway. But just
remember that I said that. In

1214
01:22:13,470 --> 01:22:17,070
the second paragraph of the
reference, Senator very Harry

1215
01:22:17,070 --> 01:22:20,490
Reid CITES, quote, The
identification of several highly

1216
01:22:20,490 --> 01:22:24,090
sensitive, unconventional
aerospace related findings that

1217
01:22:24,090 --> 01:22:27,990
will require extraordinary
protection. While the majority

1218
01:22:27,990 --> 01:22:31,680
of the unclassified reports do
indeed discuss unconventional

1219
01:22:31,980 --> 01:22:38,130
aerospace technologies, we are
unaware as to which, if any, are

1220
01:22:38,130 --> 01:22:41,310
so sensitive that they require
the extra protection provided by

1221
01:22:41,310 --> 01:22:45,450
a restricted SAP, we can only
assume that these statements are

1222
01:22:45,450 --> 01:22:48,810
in keeping with the security and
counterintelligence concerns

1223
01:22:49,260 --> 01:22:57,420
that are the main focus of the
senators letter. So the DA was

1224
01:22:57,420 --> 01:23:00,360
clueless on why Senator Harry
Reid was asking for SAP status,

1225
01:23:00,360 --> 01:23:03,390
they couldn't find any
justification for it whatsoever.

1226
01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:08,460
Obviously, ultimately shot it
down. Here's another November

1227
01:23:08,460 --> 01:23:12,930
13 2009 memo very similar to the
one I just read to you review a

1228
01:23:12,930 --> 01:23:16,830
special access program request.
This was for a written for the

1229
01:23:16,830 --> 01:23:20,280
director of special programs,
Office of the Undersecretary of

1230
01:23:20,280 --> 01:23:23,970
Defense for intelligence, likely
the same person in that other

1231
01:23:23,970 --> 01:23:27,360
memo. Not sure if one was a
draft. That's why it didn't come

1232
01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:29,940
out through FOIA and then they
accidentally dumped it online. I

1233
01:23:30,150 --> 01:23:32,520
don't know still trying to
figure all that out. But

1234
01:23:32,520 --> 01:23:36,660
regardless, still still pointing
out here. Dia cannot find

1235
01:23:36,660 --> 01:23:39,150
justification to establish a
restricted SAP we already went

1236
01:23:39,150 --> 01:23:41,910
through that, based on
classification levels of current

1237
01:23:41,910 --> 01:23:45,090
projected program deliverables.
There is insufficient grounds to

1238
01:23:45,090 --> 01:23:49,170
classify this open program and
voc alternative or compensatory

1239
01:23:49,170 --> 01:23:53,010
control measures or establish a
restricted SAP. So in other

1240
01:23:53,010 --> 01:23:55,320
words, they were looking at this
goal and there's no reason for

1241
01:23:55,320 --> 01:24:00,600
any of that, even anything
closely to a sap classifying

1242
01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:03,750
their overall program by
derivative means is impractical

1243
01:24:03,750 --> 01:24:07,350
given Department of Defense
regulation, DOD 50 200.1 Dash

1244
01:24:07,350 --> 01:24:11,430
our information security program
guidance, no reports produced

1245
01:24:11,430 --> 01:24:15,750
thus far extracted, paraphrased
or restated information obtained

1246
01:24:15,750 --> 01:24:18,840
from previously classified
material. Future reports that

1247
01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:22,020
contain classified information
will be marked and protected

1248
01:24:22,020 --> 01:24:24,900
according to the original
classifying authority. In other

1249
01:24:24,900 --> 01:24:27,750
words, they get the request from
Harry Reid, he says give it SAP

1250
01:24:27,750 --> 01:24:30,720
status. The reviewers look at
all the information it's an

1251
01:24:30,720 --> 01:24:33,810
unclassified at this point
across the board. There's no

1252
01:24:33,810 --> 01:24:37,320
reason for them to classify it,
let alone give it SAP status.

1253
01:24:37,740 --> 01:24:41,550
They said moving forward if they
do go to a classified level,

1254
01:24:41,730 --> 01:24:45,480
which they ultimately did with
one report, there's still no

1255
01:24:45,480 --> 01:24:50,130
reason to justify that as a sap.
Going back to the letter

1256
01:24:50,130 --> 01:24:53,310
classifying the overall program
by original means is in

1257
01:24:53,310 --> 01:24:57,300
advisable. information contained
in the report is not owned by

1258
01:24:57,300 --> 01:25:01,800
Produced by or for or under or
control of the US government.

1259
01:25:02,430 --> 01:25:05,730
Dia cannot identify any damage
that could result from

1260
01:25:05,730 --> 01:25:09,660
unauthorized disclosure of
publicly available information.

1261
01:25:10,980 --> 01:25:13,590
Although the information can
loosely be tied to one of the

1262
01:25:14,190 --> 01:25:18,030
eligibility criteria for
classification, scientific,

1263
01:25:18,030 --> 01:25:20,490
technological or economic
matters related to national

1264
01:25:20,490 --> 01:25:24,780
security, DIA is prohibited from
classifying basic scientific

1265
01:25:24,780 --> 01:25:29,010
research. And its result unless
it clearly relates to national

1266
01:25:29,010 --> 01:25:32,850
security, this requirement has
not been met. So everything that

1267
01:25:32,850 --> 01:25:37,020
they saw was all scientific
related, what they considered

1268
01:25:37,050 --> 01:25:40,560
basic, let me see to make sure I
have that right. basic

1269
01:25:40,560 --> 01:25:44,670
scientific research, and all the
results that came into it had no

1270
01:25:44,670 --> 01:25:47,460
national security risk
whatsoever if it went out into

1271
01:25:47,460 --> 01:25:50,580
the public. What was also
interesting was it it seems like

1272
01:25:50,580 --> 01:25:53,730
something that I've pointed out
for years, that all the dirt

1273
01:25:53,730 --> 01:25:56,460
authors when they leaked out,
and I have this in the link

1274
01:25:56,460 --> 01:25:59,940
below as well. It's a dirt
Research Center, that not only

1275
01:25:59,940 --> 01:26:04,230
has all the dirt now, but also
the related papers, that pretty

1276
01:26:04,230 --> 01:26:07,200
much across the board, the
author's had very similar papers

1277
01:26:07,230 --> 01:26:13,200
already circulating around. And
with Kitt. Green as the example.

1278
01:26:13,440 --> 01:26:16,980
What leaked was likely something
he had already created or a

1279
01:26:16,980 --> 01:26:21,270
draft. So where did the $22
million go if what appeared to

1280
01:26:21,270 --> 01:26:26,700
be a lot of these people? The
the author's already had the a

1281
01:26:26,700 --> 01:26:29,100
lot of this written, and they
took what they had already

1282
01:26:29,100 --> 01:26:32,940
written, reworked it and out
popped a dirt. Do they really

1283
01:26:32,940 --> 01:26:36,630
get like a million dollars for
that? Or is there something else

1284
01:26:36,630 --> 01:26:42,540
going on? So when I read that,
and they say that nothing, dia

1285
01:26:42,540 --> 01:26:46,080
cannot identify any damage that
can result from unauthorized

1286
01:26:46,080 --> 01:26:48,960
disclosure of publicly available
information publicly available,

1287
01:26:48,960 --> 01:26:53,460
meaning everything was already
out there in the in the ether

1288
01:26:53,490 --> 01:26:57,540
already. Backing up classifying
the overall program by original

1289
01:26:57,540 --> 01:27:00,510
means is inadvisable.
information contained in the

1290
01:27:00,510 --> 01:27:06,990
report is not owned by Produced
by or for or under control of

1291
01:27:06,990 --> 01:27:11,610
the US government. So the
reports themselves how I dissect

1292
01:27:11,610 --> 01:27:14,850
that, and any attorney can
correct me, the reports

1293
01:27:14,850 --> 01:27:18,270
themselves are going to be a
product of the US government,

1294
01:27:18,270 --> 01:27:21,600
hence subject to FOIA. That's
why we have them through FOIA.

1295
01:27:21,840 --> 01:27:26,640
And no outside corporate
approval was needed. The before

1296
01:27:26,640 --> 01:27:29,910
exemption again, covers that
corporate information. That's

1297
01:27:29,910 --> 01:27:35,940
the report itself. However, the
information within how I look at

1298
01:27:35,940 --> 01:27:41,460
this was all publicly available.
So therefore, since the authors

1299
01:27:41,460 --> 01:27:45,720
were creating a report at an
unclassified level, using

1300
01:27:45,720 --> 01:27:49,020
sources, like the National
Enquirer, and penthouse, no

1301
01:27:49,050 --> 01:27:52,380
light, well, kind of, but like
that, where they were pulling

1302
01:27:52,380 --> 01:27:56,070
information from outside
sources, those outside sources

1303
01:27:56,070 --> 01:28:01,320
being public, you can't classify
that. Hence the unclassified

1304
01:28:01,320 --> 01:28:05,550
label. And then they justify it
by saying nothing is connected

1305
01:28:05,550 --> 01:28:09,090
to any national security related
matter. So you can still pull in

1306
01:28:09,090 --> 01:28:12,090
unclassified, publicly available
information. But if you

1307
01:28:12,090 --> 01:28:15,720
attribute it to a classified
something, then fine, the report

1308
01:28:15,720 --> 01:28:21,660
would be classified, yet, that
is not the case here. So I know

1309
01:28:21,660 --> 01:28:25,530
that's a lot. But at least
again, it's showing what the

1310
01:28:25,710 --> 01:28:30,210
weight of these reports really
were to the DIA. And then it

1311
01:28:30,210 --> 01:28:33,660
becomes when you start seeing
dissection like this internally,

1312
01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:38,850
it becomes much more clear why
the DIA would say these are a

1313
01:28:38,850 --> 01:28:42,000
very little interest to the DIA.
If you guys move it out to

1314
01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:45,870
another government agency, sure,
we can maybe see some value over

1315
01:28:45,870 --> 01:28:48,240
there. And we'll get to those
documents in a second where it

1316
01:28:48,240 --> 01:28:53,400
does cite that. But other than
that the DIA had no. No

1317
01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:58,530
interest. Last paragraph in this
memo. In this or last one I'll

1318
01:28:58,530 --> 01:29:01,170
read to you. In the second
paragraph of his letter, Senator

1319
01:29:01,170 --> 01:29:03,750
Reid cites the identification of
several highly sensitive,

1320
01:29:03,750 --> 01:29:06,750
unconventional aerospace related
findings that will require

1321
01:29:06,750 --> 01:29:09,060
extraordinary protection.
Although most of the

1322
01:29:09,060 --> 01:29:12,150
unclassified reports discuss
unconventional aerospace

1323
01:29:12,150 --> 01:29:15,720
technology, DIA is unaware of
the report containing

1324
01:29:15,720 --> 01:29:18,720
information sufficiently
sensitive or vulnerable to

1325
01:29:18,720 --> 01:29:23,100
require extra protection with
either accm or restricted SAP,

1326
01:29:23,280 --> 01:29:25,830
very similar to what I just read
to you guys on the previous

1327
01:29:25,830 --> 01:29:29,160
memo, dia assumes these
statements are in reference to

1328
01:29:29,160 --> 01:29:32,280
future phases of the program and
highlights security and

1329
01:29:32,280 --> 01:29:35,700
counterintelligence concern, and
so on. So again, I don't mean to

1330
01:29:35,700 --> 01:29:38,910
be repetitive, but you can see a
lot of these documents very much

1331
01:29:38,940 --> 01:29:46,620
overlap. Fast forward now to
November 19 of 2009. About a

1332
01:29:46,620 --> 01:29:51,030
week later, dia visit with
Senator Harry Reid, this one was

1333
01:29:51,030 --> 01:29:52,050
at the Capitol building.

1334
01:29:55,500 --> 01:29:59,160
You can see in the memo event,
objective or intent to provide

1335
01:29:59,160 --> 01:30:03,630
the redact acted with an
overview of the redacted

1336
01:30:03,630 --> 01:30:09,690
authored I m, which is tab one,
signed by the redacted in

1337
01:30:09,690 --> 01:30:14,730
response to a Usdi. Special
Programs tasking to evaluate

1338
01:30:14,730 --> 01:30:18,900
Senator Reid's request to place
the advanced aerospace threat

1339
01:30:18,900 --> 01:30:23,070
Identification Program under a
restricted Special Access

1340
01:30:23,100 --> 01:30:27,360
Program. Also to prepare the
redacted to address any

1341
01:30:27,360 --> 01:30:31,350
questions by Senator Reid on the
quality and value of the

1342
01:30:31,350 --> 01:30:36,210
products produced thus far under
the current contract, tab three.

1343
01:30:36,360 --> 01:30:38,880
So there's three tabs that are
that are mentioned, there's like

1344
01:30:38,880 --> 01:30:42,540
attachments. They're not there,
but you can easily deduce what

1345
01:30:42,540 --> 01:30:45,810
there are tab two would be his
letter. tab three would be the

1346
01:30:45,810 --> 01:30:49,620
contract that we already went
over, so on and so forth, jumped

1347
01:30:49,620 --> 01:30:52,860
down background information.
Senator Reid's letter was

1348
01:30:52,860 --> 01:30:56,940
delivered to the depth SecDef,
approximately one month before

1349
01:30:56,940 --> 01:30:59,580
all the draft technical reports
from the contractor were

1350
01:30:59,580 --> 01:31:05,730
received by redacted again,
likely the DW well, to our

1351
01:31:05,730 --> 01:31:08,940
knowledge, the senator did not
receive copies of these draft

1352
01:31:08,940 --> 01:31:13,860
reports. Although he was aware
of the general topic list. Thus,

1353
01:31:13,860 --> 01:31:16,770
we cannot find a direct link
between the content of the

1354
01:31:16,770 --> 01:31:22,080
reports and his letter, redacted
at the request of Usdi. Special

1355
01:31:22,080 --> 01:31:25,710
Programs evaluated Senator
Reid's letter and could not find

1356
01:31:25,710 --> 01:31:28,200
any technical issues addressed
in the reports that were

1357
01:31:28,200 --> 01:31:32,040
sufficiently sensitive to
require the extra protection

1358
01:31:32,070 --> 01:31:37,380
associated with restricted SAP.
Senator Reid cites the

1359
01:31:37,380 --> 01:31:40,860
identification of several highly
sensitive, unconventional

1360
01:31:40,860 --> 01:31:44,580
aerospace related findings that
will require extraordinary

1361
01:31:44,580 --> 01:31:49,620
protection. Senator Reid cites
the identification of several

1362
01:31:49,620 --> 01:31:52,950
highly sensitive, unconventional
aerospace related findings that

1363
01:31:52,950 --> 01:31:56,010
will require extraordinary
protection. Although most of the

1364
01:31:56,010 --> 01:31:58,590
unclassified reports discuss
unconventional aerospace

1365
01:31:58,590 --> 01:32:02,430
technology, DIA is unaware of
which ones the senator believes

1366
01:32:02,430 --> 01:32:07,020
are sensitive. In other words,
dia yet again was clueless a lot

1367
01:32:07,020 --> 01:32:10,710
of similar wording here. But
obviously, a point that they are

1368
01:32:10,710 --> 01:32:16,140
stressing dia position based on
the content of the delivered

1369
01:32:16,140 --> 01:32:22,710
fiscal year 2009. And expect
fiscal year 2010 technical

1370
01:32:22,710 --> 01:32:26,700
reports, dia cannot find
sufficient grounds under DoD

1371
01:32:26,700 --> 01:32:30,600
regulations to establish a
restricted SAP. However, the

1372
01:32:30,600 --> 01:32:35,910
concerns that Senator Reid
raises seem to suggest that the

1373
01:32:35,910 --> 01:32:39,030
security and counterintelligence
issues are in regard to future

1374
01:32:39,030 --> 01:32:42,450
phases of this program, and not
necessarily the current contract

1375
01:32:42,450 --> 01:32:46,530
effort. If this assumption is
correct, then Senator Reid is

1376
01:32:46,530 --> 01:32:49,800
looking ahead to a research
development and acquisition

1377
01:32:49,800 --> 01:32:53,550
effort that lies outside the DoD
intelligence community's

1378
01:32:53,550 --> 01:32:57,840
purview. This, in turn would
argue that any future efforts

1379
01:32:57,840 --> 01:33:02,520
beyond fiscal year 2010 When the
current contract ends should be

1380
01:33:02,520 --> 01:33:06,840
moved under the appropriate DoD
entity. I've spoken about agency

1381
01:33:06,840 --> 01:33:11,760
purview many, many times before.
And going back to the allegation

1382
01:33:11,760 --> 01:33:16,620
of Dia at Skinwalker Ranch under
our SAP and looking at UAP and

1383
01:33:16,620 --> 01:33:21,090
Utah and cryptids and dyno
beavers and all that that the

1384
01:33:21,090 --> 01:33:24,510
book skinwalkers at the Pentagon
alleges, that's not in the

1385
01:33:24,510 --> 01:33:28,980
purview of the DIA. And you can
see here, they clearly state

1386
01:33:29,430 --> 01:33:33,630
that if Senator Harry Reid is
taking us out beyond what it is,

1387
01:33:34,560 --> 01:33:38,820
and he wants that to be a
research, development and

1388
01:33:38,820 --> 01:33:42,870
acquisition effort, essentially
more on the lines of what we've

1389
01:33:42,870 --> 01:33:47,790
heard about our SAT, but just on
different topics, like acquiring

1390
01:33:47,790 --> 01:33:52,590
UAP data and meta materials. And
this that and the other thing,

1391
01:33:53,250 --> 01:33:56,520
it's clear, right hear that it
would not fit into the purview

1392
01:33:56,520 --> 01:34:00,840
of the DIA. Now I'm stretching
it there to try and, like get

1393
01:34:00,840 --> 01:34:04,710
you to a paranormal research
program. I'm stretching that.

1394
01:34:05,430 --> 01:34:09,180
That's not what this says. But I
mean, that's what it would be if

1395
01:34:09,180 --> 01:34:13,020
OSS, Apple was doing all of
that. And so it's clear as day

1396
01:34:13,020 --> 01:34:16,380
here that the DIA is saying,
hey, if that's what he wants,

1397
01:34:16,380 --> 01:34:20,370
meaning a research, development
and acquisition program, that's

1398
01:34:20,370 --> 01:34:21,000
not us.

1399
01:34:21,540 --> 01:34:26,580
It's not our purview. So I'm
glad to see that because I

1400
01:34:26,580 --> 01:34:32,580
wasn't off base with the idea
that this type of a program

1401
01:34:32,580 --> 01:34:37,470
meaning what OS app is allegedly
versus what it it is on paper.

1402
01:34:38,160 --> 01:34:41,730
It just wouldn't it's the DEA
doesn't do that, especially on

1403
01:34:41,730 --> 01:34:46,020
US soil, even through a
contractor. So it's a question

1404
01:34:46,020 --> 01:34:50,490
that I've asked for years, even
to Mr. Elizondo, nobody can

1405
01:34:50,490 --> 01:34:55,200
answer it. Nobody could tell me
why. And although I did an

1406
01:34:55,200 --> 01:34:58,950
interview with a gentleman who
worked at Skinwalker Ranch, who

1407
01:34:58,950 --> 01:35:04,110
felt maybe there was Some weapon
research there on him. That also

1408
01:35:04,110 --> 01:35:09,360
was a stretch, but maybe I can
start to see something sinister

1409
01:35:09,360 --> 01:35:13,920
like that maybe huge maybe? I
don't but I'm saying at the time

1410
01:35:13,920 --> 01:35:19,110
maybe. And yet nothing. Nobody's
been able to answer that

1411
01:35:19,110 --> 01:35:24,510
question on how OS app as a
paranormal research program, and

1412
01:35:24,540 --> 01:35:29,880
and and researching all of the
aspects that they've said that

1413
01:35:29,880 --> 01:35:34,590
they've done, how that fits into
the DIA is purview. And here in

1414
01:35:34,590 --> 01:35:38,160
my opinion, is proof of just
that that was given to Senator

1415
01:35:38,160 --> 01:35:40,980
Harry Reid saying hey, look,
that's not what this agency is

1416
01:35:40,980 --> 01:35:45,000
about. potential areas of
concern in the same memo.

1417
01:35:45,900 --> 01:35:49,110
Senator Reid may insist upon
keeping a tip efforts at DIA

1418
01:35:49,110 --> 01:35:53,280
during a time of considerable
disruption to the redacted

1419
01:35:53,280 --> 01:35:58,500
assets, due to the BR AC move
the and then about a line and a

1420
01:35:58,500 --> 01:36:02,220
half of redaction. These issues
will make it very difficult for

1421
01:36:02,220 --> 01:36:08,340
dia to exercise proper program
management. With the redactions

1422
01:36:08,340 --> 01:36:10,740
there, I really don't know what
they're talking about, nor have

1423
01:36:10,740 --> 01:36:13,380
I really dug in to try and
figure out what was going on at

1424
01:36:13,380 --> 01:36:16,950
this timeframe internally at
DIA. But obviously, they were

1425
01:36:16,950 --> 01:36:21,060
noting that this was a big
concern to even continue it. If

1426
01:36:21,060 --> 01:36:23,940
Senator Reid strongly desires
the ATF to be placed under a

1427
01:36:23,940 --> 01:36:28,320
sap, then doing so within the
DOD intelligence community would

1428
01:36:28,320 --> 01:36:33,420
be difficult to justify.
However, if the focus of the

1429
01:36:33,420 --> 01:36:37,440
program were to become more RDA
oriented than a sap would be

1430
01:36:37,440 --> 01:36:42,720
easier to justify under the
current DoD 50 200.1 dash are,

1431
01:36:43,380 --> 01:36:46,530
essentially if the scope
changed, they started getting

1432
01:36:46,530 --> 01:36:50,700
into many more developmental
areas in declassified research,

1433
01:36:50,700 --> 01:36:53,790
then, yes, a sap may be
justified. And that's what they

1434
01:36:53,790 --> 01:36:58,830
were saying here. Also, in
November 2009, this was undated.

1435
01:37:00,210 --> 01:37:02,700
Senator Harry Reid's request to
put the advanced aerospace

1436
01:37:02,700 --> 01:37:06,090
threat Identification Program
under special access protection.

1437
01:37:06,120 --> 01:37:09,690
This was a packet that was given
during that timeframe to the

1438
01:37:09,690 --> 01:37:13,260
deputy Deputy Secretary of
Defense for that meeting that

1439
01:37:13,260 --> 01:37:17,400
they were having with Senator
Reid. So essentially, this was

1440
01:37:17,430 --> 01:37:20,220
we'll call it a briefing packet
and a lot of the attachments,

1441
01:37:20,220 --> 01:37:23,730
you can download it at the
website that I link below. A lot

1442
01:37:23,730 --> 01:37:25,650
of those attachments we've
already gone over, but it was

1443
01:37:25,650 --> 01:37:29,160
like a packet that was given to
the DEP SEC def, which allowed

1444
01:37:29,160 --> 01:37:32,490
him to kind of see that
overview. And you'll be able to

1445
01:37:32,520 --> 01:37:37,890
go through all of that. This was
a data known likely mid to late

1446
01:37:37,890 --> 01:37:41,610
2009. I put them at the end
because chronologically, I can't

1447
01:37:41,610 --> 01:37:45,150
tell you exactly where they fit.
But this was another memo that

1448
01:37:45,150 --> 01:37:49,800
was released, very much going
over a lot of what we already

1449
01:37:49,800 --> 01:37:57,330
have. You can see here, this was
a breakdown of the advanced

1450
01:37:57,330 --> 01:38:00,720
aerospace threat identification
program was first sponsored in

1451
01:38:00,720 --> 01:38:03,780
fiscal year 2008, defense
supplemental appropriation act

1452
01:38:03,780 --> 01:38:07,560
by Senators read and anyway,
with a $10 million ad, the

1453
01:38:07,560 --> 01:38:10,290
purpose of this congressional ad
was to investigate foreign

1454
01:38:10,290 --> 01:38:13,170
advanced aerospace weapon
threats from the President out

1455
01:38:13,170 --> 01:38:16,530
to the next 40 years and to
build an infrastructure to house

1456
01:38:16,530 --> 01:38:19,260
the center of expertise on
advanced aerospace technologies,

1457
01:38:19,710 --> 01:38:22,590
all of which, what we've gone
over on numerous documents, that

1458
01:38:22,590 --> 01:38:29,130
seems to be very repetitive, and
it is simply because the story

1459
01:38:29,130 --> 01:38:32,130
when it comes to those core
details really didn't change

1460
01:38:32,160 --> 01:38:35,340
internally in these documents.
There was never caught a

1461
01:38:35,340 --> 01:38:37,470
contract awarded and then
something that came out and

1462
01:38:37,470 --> 01:38:40,320
went, hey, you know what, we
were looking into this advanced

1463
01:38:40,320 --> 01:38:43,080
aerospace research, but these
Donald beaver sound a lot more

1464
01:38:43,080 --> 01:38:45,780
interesting. So we're going to
change the scope of the project.

1465
01:38:45,960 --> 01:38:52,230
None of that is indicated in any
of these documents at all. And

1466
01:38:52,230 --> 01:38:56,640
see here on June 24, Senator
Reid sent a letter to Deputy

1467
01:38:56,640 --> 01:38:59,220
Secretary of Defense Lynn
requesting the DoD establish an

1468
01:38:59,220 --> 01:39:03,000
alternate compensatory control
measure or SAP for this project.

1469
01:39:03,000 --> 01:39:06,900
Again, it these timelines are
solidified throughout numerous

1470
01:39:06,900 --> 01:39:11,700
documents very much coinciding
with each other. This last

1471
01:39:11,700 --> 01:39:15,990
paragraph, whoever wrote the
letter is referenced here in

1472
01:39:15,990 --> 01:39:18,510
November 2009, Deputy Secretary
of Defense Lynn

1473
01:39:18,510 --> 01:39:22,800
and I met with Senator Reid to
discuss this program. At that

1474
01:39:22,800 --> 01:39:27,000
time, we determined the reports
were of limited value to dia.

1475
01:39:27,420 --> 01:39:31,050
However, I did suggest that
could be of merit to other

1476
01:39:31,050 --> 01:39:35,460
organizations and that upon the
completion of the DIA contract,

1477
01:39:35,790 --> 01:39:38,400
the project could be
transitioned to another agency

1478
01:39:38,400 --> 01:39:45,060
or component that are suited to
oversee the project. So in

1479
01:39:45,060 --> 01:39:47,280
November of 2009, they were
already telling Reid they

1480
01:39:47,280 --> 01:39:51,330
weren't interested. Now this
obviously went into Missy all

1481
01:39:51,330 --> 01:39:55,830
through 2008 2009 Then fiscal
year 2010. So they've let it go

1482
01:39:55,830 --> 01:39:59,340
that option year one, but the
writing was on the wall, that it

1483
01:39:59,340 --> 01:40:05,040
was I'm gonna go kaput. Here's
another unknown dated status

1484
01:40:05,040 --> 01:40:10,140
report, likely again, mid to
late 2009. Again, more evidence

1485
01:40:10,140 --> 01:40:13,710
that monthly status reports were
received 12 project management

1486
01:40:13,710 --> 01:40:16,860
plans received an executed a lot
of which were not released, all

1487
01:40:16,860 --> 01:40:19,710
of which really were not
released under FOIA. I have

1488
01:40:19,710 --> 01:40:24,540
appealed all of that contracting
officer, you know, this is very

1489
01:40:24,540 --> 01:40:28,110
similar to what we've already
went over. So I won't go over

1490
01:40:28,110 --> 01:40:28,620
again.

1491
01:40:30,090 --> 01:40:33,750
And yeah, finishing off very
similar points to what we've

1492
01:40:33,750 --> 01:40:37,110
already said. Now, going back to
you remember that line where I

1493
01:40:37,110 --> 01:40:41,880
said that there was an amendment
and that amendment to the

1494
01:40:41,880 --> 01:40:45,870
contract of the original bid
solicitation, there were three

1495
01:40:45,870 --> 01:40:49,080
different versions of the offset
bid solicitation that you can

1496
01:40:49,080 --> 01:40:52,620
all download, you don't have to
take my word for it. I'll link

1497
01:40:52,620 --> 01:40:56,220
the Wayback Machine link below
as well, including I believe

1498
01:40:56,220 --> 01:41:00,270
that the sam.gov link is still
active. And you can download the

1499
01:41:00,270 --> 01:41:04,710
different versions and the
changes to that bid solicitation

1500
01:41:04,740 --> 01:41:09,330
as it morphed. Since it had been
posted, meaning they can amend

1501
01:41:09,330 --> 01:41:12,690
things, they can add things that
can change things, and so on.

1502
01:41:12,960 --> 01:41:18,210
One of the things that they
changed in the chronology before

1503
01:41:18,210 --> 01:41:22,470
bass ever been on the program
was to change that the bitter

1504
01:41:22,500 --> 01:41:25,650
whomever one of the
prerequisites was that you had

1505
01:41:25,650 --> 01:41:29,040
to have an approved facility to
house that classified

1506
01:41:29,040 --> 01:41:32,460
information. That was a
requirement. But remember, those

1507
01:41:32,460 --> 01:41:36,870
documents said that bass had yet
to receive that approval at all

1508
01:41:37,050 --> 01:41:41,550
for their facility in fiscal
year 2009. So nothing was

1509
01:41:41,550 --> 01:41:46,380
classified. And in fact, if you
recall, Robert Bigelow said he

1510
01:41:46,380 --> 01:41:51,180
spent his own money to modify
his building, in what he says I

1511
01:41:51,180 --> 01:41:53,730
believe preparation for
metamaterials are something that

1512
01:41:53,730 --> 01:41:56,790
he was supposed to get, but
never did. All of that made it

1513
01:41:56,790 --> 01:42:00,870
seem like wow, he was really
investing in this program, and

1514
01:42:00,870 --> 01:42:04,350
really wanting to essentially
split the cost with the

1515
01:42:04,350 --> 01:42:07,980
government. In my opinion,
that's a stretch now, because

1516
01:42:07,980 --> 01:42:13,590
now one of those amendments was
changing that requirement to it

1517
01:42:13,590 --> 01:42:17,550
wasn't being required. And it
was like how convenient for

1518
01:42:17,550 --> 01:42:21,930
Robert Bigelow, before he ever
been on the program, that in

1519
01:42:21,930 --> 01:42:26,100
August, before he submitted the
bid, they change that

1520
01:42:26,100 --> 01:42:29,490
requirement, then in this
internal documentation, it

1521
01:42:29,490 --> 01:42:33,870
reinforces he didn't meet the
requirement. He later did,

1522
01:42:34,170 --> 01:42:37,920
because he invested his own
money. But that wasn't that was

1523
01:42:37,920 --> 01:42:41,310
under the guise that he did it
to kind of help the government

1524
01:42:41,310 --> 01:42:45,090
know, he needed to do that. That
was what he needed to do to get

1525
01:42:45,090 --> 01:42:51,900
into the classified creation of
all of those reports. But what

1526
01:42:51,900 --> 01:42:55,800
all of those reports, then
translated to was only one in

1527
01:42:55,800 --> 01:42:59,490
the 38 dirts. That's the one
that's been withheld. Other than

1528
01:42:59,490 --> 01:43:04,230
that, he never created any, if
option here to option, your

1529
01:43:04,230 --> 01:43:08,670
three, option, your four, if
they all got executed, there

1530
01:43:08,670 --> 01:43:12,390
would be 10s of millions of
additional dollars that could

1531
01:43:12,390 --> 01:43:15,690
have went in, and by him
modifying his building and

1532
01:43:15,690 --> 01:43:21,630
getting that classified status,
what then he could do was get

1533
01:43:21,630 --> 01:43:27,900
more money, but then potentially
get a SAP status. And then he

1534
01:43:27,900 --> 01:43:32,040
would really be essentially
sitting pretty in regards to

1535
01:43:32,040 --> 01:43:38,430
information access, financial
access for contract extensions,

1536
01:43:38,520 --> 01:43:43,500
spending, and potentially have
offset moved out of Dia into an

1537
01:43:43,500 --> 01:43:49,080
agency that it was more more
appropriate for for that r&d

1538
01:43:49,080 --> 01:43:53,250
effort, and so on. And you can
kind of fill in the blanks that

1539
01:43:53,250 --> 01:43:55,650
it potentially could go on for
years if they accomplish what

1540
01:43:55,650 --> 01:43:59,010
they what they wanted to
accomplish. So I'm ending it

1541
01:43:59,010 --> 01:44:03,090
there because it really shows
what we've been told in a

1542
01:44:03,090 --> 01:44:07,080
different light. And remember, I
say moving the goalposts. Well,

1543
01:44:07,110 --> 01:44:10,500
before that evidence came out,
it kind of made it seem like he

1544
01:44:10,500 --> 01:44:14,190
was investing in this program
with his own money. And he was

1545
01:44:14,460 --> 01:44:18,090
under the impression he was
going to get material from the

1546
01:44:18,090 --> 01:44:21,810
government. But in reality that
was a contractual obligation

1547
01:44:21,990 --> 01:44:27,060
that he did not meet and per
historical evidence that anybody

1548
01:44:27,060 --> 01:44:31,650
can cite. They changed that
requirement. Conveniently,

1549
01:44:31,680 --> 01:44:36,330
miraculously, coincidentally,
weeks before he submitted the

1550
01:44:36,330 --> 01:44:40,380
bid. So yet again, even more
evidence the writing was on the

1551
01:44:40,380 --> 01:44:45,720
wall that this was all created
for him. So now I end you with

1552
01:44:45,720 --> 01:44:51,300
you on where is all of that UFO
and paranormal study

1553
01:44:51,300 --> 01:44:55,260
information? I know we have the
Kitt Green report, but

1554
01:44:55,290 --> 01:44:58,530
questionable sourcing at best
and publicly available

1555
01:44:58,530 --> 01:45:03,780
information. The Drake equation,
again, a wildcard. But

1556
01:45:03,780 --> 01:45:07,350
everything else fits exactly to
what this aerospace research

1557
01:45:07,350 --> 01:45:12,030
was. So when you look at the
recent interviews, I'll ask you,

1558
01:45:12,060 --> 01:45:16,590
and please, you don't have to
agree with me. But do you feel

1559
01:45:16,620 --> 01:45:16,980
that they

1560
01:45:16,980 --> 01:45:21,540
are moving the goalposts? That
what was the story in 2007, and

1561
01:45:21,540 --> 01:45:28,950
to 2008, or excuse me into
2017 2018 2019, about OS app in

1562
01:45:28,950 --> 01:45:33,600
2000, allegedly seven, 2008 and
2009. You've got all these

1563
01:45:33,600 --> 01:45:35,490
different stories and all these
different years, and they've

1564
01:45:35,490 --> 01:45:40,500
morphed over time. What does
that mean? A lot of people say,

1565
01:45:40,500 --> 01:45:43,350
well, the government is
embarrassed about UFOs. Keep in

1566
01:45:43,350 --> 01:45:47,250
mind, that's the same government
right now, that is getting a

1567
01:45:48,090 --> 01:45:51,480
task force that's been set up
for quite some time now

1568
01:45:51,480 --> 01:45:56,460
disbanded for a bigger effort to
investigate UAP. They comment on

1569
01:45:56,460 --> 01:46:01,440
UAP. Quite often, they have
confirmed UAP videos that have

1570
01:46:01,440 --> 01:46:04,320
leaked to the government. It's
the same government that people

1571
01:46:04,320 --> 01:46:07,950
say is embarrassed to talking
about UFOs, that are seemingly

1572
01:46:07,980 --> 01:46:11,820
talking a lot about UFOs. So
those two things can't go hand

1573
01:46:11,820 --> 01:46:14,940
in hand. Some may say, well,
they want to cover up their lie,

1574
01:46:15,240 --> 01:46:17,910
we'll tell you what, they've
already changed their tune on a

1575
01:46:17,910 --> 01:46:20,850
couple of different claims
before, namely, they said now

1576
01:46:20,850 --> 01:46:24,060
they utilized UAP reports, but
it wasn't the scope of the

1577
01:46:24,060 --> 01:46:27,330
program. So what is it is that
the government they didn't want

1578
01:46:27,330 --> 01:46:31,440
to get caught in a lie? Or are
they changing their their tune?

1579
01:46:31,440 --> 01:46:34,920
And so on and so forth? Why
won't they just admit that OS

1580
01:46:34,920 --> 01:46:38,100
app did this? Or is there a
deeper story? And I think that

1581
01:46:38,100 --> 01:46:41,910
that's what for me is the most
important aspect of this is the

1582
01:46:41,910 --> 01:46:46,290
context of what OS app was all
about. And when you get into I'm

1583
01:46:46,290 --> 01:46:50,100
not going to make the allegation
directly. But when you get into

1584
01:46:50,100 --> 01:46:52,950
the conversation, and I believe
we should have this conversation

1585
01:46:53,190 --> 01:46:57,420
about the misappropriation of
funds, or a contract that was

1586
01:46:57,420 --> 01:47:03,030
given a certain header, and the
reality was something else, we

1587
01:47:03,030 --> 01:47:05,880
need to talk about that because
as much as I love UFO and

1588
01:47:05,880 --> 01:47:08,760
paranormal research, and I
believe it should be funded, it

1589
01:47:08,760 --> 01:47:11,940
should be funded appropriately,
because look what happened if

1590
01:47:11,940 --> 01:47:15,780
this is true, and they're that
this was some secret effort, and

1591
01:47:15,780 --> 01:47:17,820
everybody has moved the
goalposts, and they're fine with

1592
01:47:17,820 --> 01:47:21,660
it now that the evidence is just
covered up or whatever. If it's

1593
01:47:21,660 --> 01:47:25,020
unclassified, then Bigelow
Aerospace has it, they should

1594
01:47:25,020 --> 01:47:28,140
release it, because that will
show the government is lying.

1595
01:47:28,170 --> 01:47:31,740
Right? Why wouldn't Why wouldn't
he just do that there's no rhyme

1596
01:47:31,740 --> 01:47:35,490
or reason not to. Some have
alleged it's proprietary, and

1597
01:47:35,490 --> 01:47:38,460
that they're hiding it in the
private sector. Okay, well, we

1598
01:47:38,460 --> 01:47:42,420
know for a fact it's
unclassified. So why not release

1599
01:47:42,420 --> 01:47:45,840
it? If he's interested in the
transparency, that we should be

1600
01:47:45,840 --> 01:47:49,830
interested in seeing that
transparency, and getting all of

1601
01:47:49,830 --> 01:47:53,010
the reports? Essentially, you
and I paid for it if you're

1602
01:47:53,010 --> 01:47:56,040
American, and if you're outside
of America? I know you want to

1603
01:47:56,040 --> 01:48:01,020
see it, too. So we should be
able to ask who got taxpayer

1604
01:48:01,020 --> 01:48:05,190
money, where that information is
and to clarify, because it's

1605
01:48:05,220 --> 01:48:09,210
unclassified. And if the
government says that all SAP had

1606
01:48:09,210 --> 01:48:13,650
nothing to do with UFO or UAP
research, Fine, let them say

1607
01:48:13,650 --> 01:48:18,300
that bass. I don't know if it's
considered defunct now, I know

1608
01:48:18,300 --> 01:48:21,930
that nobody's really working for
it. But Bigelow Aerospace, put

1609
01:48:21,930 --> 01:48:25,170
all that stuff out there. Put
your label on it for all we

1610
01:48:25,170 --> 01:48:30,030
care. I personally could care
less, if the research was solid,

1611
01:48:30,030 --> 01:48:34,140
and you did what you said. It's
not classified. And if you want

1612
01:48:34,140 --> 01:48:38,040
to contradict that, fine,
because if it is classified,

1613
01:48:38,160 --> 01:48:42,330
then we solidify the DIA
absolutely lied to hit Senator

1614
01:48:42,330 --> 01:48:47,100
Harry Reid lied to their
superiors, they fabricated

1615
01:48:47,100 --> 01:48:53,160
evidence, and it goes into deep
allegations. So let's, let's

1616
01:48:53,160 --> 01:48:57,780
have that conversation. But yet
no one wants to talk. But you

1617
01:48:57,780 --> 01:49:02,430
can buy a book that doesn't have
the evidence that we need, has a

1618
01:49:02,430 --> 01:49:06,150
lot of claims. And I was told
behind the scenes. Hey, John,

1619
01:49:06,510 --> 01:49:11,550
look at the back. There are tons
of reports that you can FOIA and

1620
01:49:11,550 --> 01:49:14,760
that will prove everything.
Well, guess what? I did FOIA

1621
01:49:14,760 --> 01:49:18,510
them, and so did a lot of other
people. They're not there. Now,

1622
01:49:18,510 --> 01:49:23,010
I'm not taking the government at
its word. I never do. I wrote

1623
01:49:23,010 --> 01:49:27,390
books about not doing just that.
So I know that they lie. And I

1624
01:49:27,390 --> 01:49:32,790
know that they can obfuscate
profusely. So that's why I'm

1625
01:49:32,790 --> 01:49:36,030
filing appeals. And I've already
filed numerous appeals on this

1626
01:49:36,030 --> 01:49:39,690
very topic, but in the same
breath, if I question one side,

1627
01:49:39,690 --> 01:49:42,900
I have to question the other. I
was told to FOIA those reports

1628
01:49:42,900 --> 01:49:45,960
and they're just not there. Now,
others argue well, their best

1629
01:49:45,960 --> 01:49:50,640
reports. Why aren't those same
people asking why then bass

1630
01:49:50,640 --> 01:49:56,160
won't release them. They're not
classified. They're just not

1631
01:49:56,160 --> 01:49:59,520
redact names. That's fine.
redact dollar signs. That's

1632
01:49:59,520 --> 01:50:03,150
fine. But if this was funded by
us that money, that's taxpayer

1633
01:50:03,150 --> 01:50:06,030
dollars, and if there's some
legal loophole that people want

1634
01:50:06,030 --> 01:50:09,990
to fall back on, that they can
hide from FOIA, and it's some

1635
01:50:09,990 --> 01:50:13,440
big cover up on the side of DIA.
Well, guess what?

1636
01:50:13,770 --> 01:50:17,910
It still isn't classified. And
bass slash Bigelow Aerospace can

1637
01:50:17,910 --> 01:50:21,720
give it to all of us, yet they
don't. Why aren't the biggest

1638
01:50:21,720 --> 01:50:24,210
advocates for this being a
paranormal research program?

1639
01:50:24,420 --> 01:50:27,480
Knocking on Bigelow's door
going, hey, you know what,

1640
01:50:27,750 --> 01:50:32,550
let's, let's, let's figure this
out. Let's put all those reports

1641
01:50:32,550 --> 01:50:38,250
out there onto the public realm
and, and see what we can do. Get

1642
01:50:38,250 --> 01:50:40,800
the DIA talking about this. And
if they don't, who cares?

1643
01:50:40,920 --> 01:50:42,900
Because now we have the
information yet they won't do

1644
01:50:42,900 --> 01:50:45,900
it. All those unanswered
questions have lingered for

1645
01:50:45,900 --> 01:50:49,860
years. So those that have
preached about transparency and

1646
01:50:49,860 --> 01:50:52,530
wanting the government to say
more, are the ones that are

1647
01:50:52,530 --> 01:50:56,130
working for the government, and
apparently, part of the cover

1648
01:50:56,130 --> 01:51:00,510
up, whether it be as connected
to the government, or whether it

1649
01:51:00,510 --> 01:51:03,900
be as connected to the corporate
world? It's a cover up

1650
01:51:03,900 --> 01:51:09,120
nonetheless. Because where are
the reports? So this book, that

1651
01:51:09,120 --> 01:51:13,290
lists a ton of them in the back
didn't come out through FOIA.

1652
01:51:13,500 --> 01:51:17,400
And although I'm appealing for
them, where are they? Bigelow

1653
01:51:17,400 --> 01:51:22,200
Aerospace has an opportunity now
to shut people like me up that

1654
01:51:22,200 --> 01:51:27,180
have concerns over the
narrative. And trust me, I want

1655
01:51:27,180 --> 01:51:30,990
to be proven wrong. I love this
topic. Anybody who watches this

1656
01:51:30,990 --> 01:51:36,000
channel knows that I love this
topic. Yet their mum, they don't

1657
01:51:36,000 --> 01:51:40,470
do interviews outside one or two
very tight niche. Journalists

1658
01:51:40,500 --> 01:51:44,280
that that that do the
interviews. Why not? I've

1659
01:51:44,280 --> 01:51:48,090
reached out, I've asked come on
to my show. And we can figure

1660
01:51:48,090 --> 01:51:52,500
out what best way to take this
and translate it into a FOIA to

1661
01:51:52,500 --> 01:51:55,830
get something of substance but
nobody wants to do it. Why not?

1662
01:51:56,220 --> 01:52:00,810
I don't get it. This is the most
secretive unclassified program

1663
01:52:01,290 --> 01:52:05,940
that I've ever come across. And
that said, facetiously, if they

1664
01:52:05,940 --> 01:52:09,780
wanted to classify it, they
would, but they didn't. Why not?

1665
01:52:10,200 --> 01:52:14,070
Nobody's asking that question.
Why did they change the topic,

1666
01:52:14,160 --> 01:52:19,440
excuse me the bid solicitation
that seemingly was written just

1667
01:52:19,440 --> 01:52:22,860
for Robert Bigelow, before he
ever even bid on the contract.

1668
01:52:23,670 --> 01:52:27,990
Those people have lambasted me
for years, putting out the idea

1669
01:52:27,990 --> 01:52:33,330
that he was likely the chosen
winner of this months, and maybe

1670
01:52:33,330 --> 01:52:36,750
even much longer before the bid
solicitation ever went out.

1671
01:52:37,260 --> 01:52:42,600
Those same people are ignoring
the evidence. So I can ramble on

1672
01:52:42,600 --> 01:52:46,110
for a while now, but I'll end
it. And I hope this gave you

1673
01:52:46,110 --> 01:52:49,800
guys some indicator of the
official evidence than that's

1674
01:52:49,800 --> 01:52:53,790
there. And although I don't
endorse it, although I don't say

1675
01:52:53,790 --> 01:52:57,180
hey, look, this is, this is the
real story, and everybody else

1676
01:52:57,180 --> 01:53:03,120
is bunk. This is the level of
evidence we need to prove or

1677
01:53:03,120 --> 01:53:08,790
disprove a story. So if this
book wants to come out, and list

1678
01:53:08,790 --> 01:53:12,180
all these reports, and so on,
and so forth, and say that all

1679
01:53:12,180 --> 01:53:17,160
of that contradicts the company
line, the DIA line, the official

1680
01:53:17,160 --> 01:53:24,810
narrative, then show it, and I
will absolutely be happy to

1681
01:53:24,810 --> 01:53:28,830
profile it for you. Forgive my
sound effect there from my

1682
01:53:28,830 --> 01:53:33,300
email. I appreciate you guys
tuning in to this very deep dive

1683
01:53:33,300 --> 01:53:34,920
on a very interesting topic.

1684
01:53:36,390 --> 01:53:39,960
I learned a lot myself doing
these presentations, but I hope

1685
01:53:39,960 --> 01:53:43,530
you learned some as well. I will
end it the way I started it. I

1686
01:53:43,530 --> 01:53:46,260
know these deep dives aren't for
everybody. But if you're at this

1687
01:53:46,260 --> 01:53:52,290
point, I compliment you for
sticking with a hour 45 ish or

1688
01:53:52,290 --> 01:53:56,520
so breakdown of these documents
because it shows me you want to

1689
01:53:56,520 --> 01:53:59,970
know more. I don't expect you
all to believe with every point

1690
01:53:59,970 --> 01:54:04,620
that I make. That's opinion. But
rather I see now if you're at

1691
01:54:04,620 --> 01:54:08,010
this point of the video, that
you look at the at the documents

1692
01:54:08,010 --> 01:54:11,700
and the evidence to make up your
own mind. And that is what this

1693
01:54:11,700 --> 01:54:14,730
channel is all about. It's not
about agreeing with me. It's

1694
01:54:14,730 --> 01:54:19,230
about looking up the evidence
and making the opinions and

1695
01:54:19,230 --> 01:54:23,520
decisions on your own. So I wish
you Godspeed on your journey

1696
01:54:23,520 --> 01:54:27,120
trying to figure out all of this
because it's a mess. And until

1697
01:54:27,120 --> 01:54:30,360
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1710
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1711
01:55:14,490 --> 01:55:18,300
Greenewald Jr signing off. And
until next time, we'll see you

1712
01:55:18,300 --> 01:55:18,600
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