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John Greenewald: That's right,
everybody. As always, thank you

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so much for tuning in and making
this your podcast or your live

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stream of choice. Some of you
are asking in the chat as I kind

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of rearranged my windows here.
Yes, this is live, originally, I

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was going to do what I call a
behind the scenes show. And that

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was going to entail a couple of
different segments. The change,

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however, is I decided to go
ahead and just do one topic,

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make it a regular show, do it
live. And have you guys kind of

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guide this a little bit? If you
haven't really been paying

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attention, the reason why I
switched, what I wanted to do

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was the New York Times published
an article today that has got

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everybody upset. And I think
that there's many different

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reasons to be upset with this.
But I think that if you had high

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expectations with the pending
UAP report that we all hope is

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coming on Monday, I always have
my doubts that the government

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does anything in time. On time,
I should say. If you had high

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hopes for that, then this New
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going to upset you. And here's
what I think is going on. It was

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written by Julian Barnes from
the New York Times. The title is

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many military UFO reports are
just foreign spying or airborne

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trash. I'll get to the article
in a minute, we'll go over it,

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we'll have some, some dissection
of it. And I will try and watch

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the chat for your questions,
pull in as many as I can. With

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but a couple of kind of
housecleaning notes here, as I

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do with the behind the scenes
shows, I decided to broadcast

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this to all of my social media.
So some of you I know are

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watching on Facebook, some of
you are on Twitter, the majority

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of you, I believe are on
YouTube. That's how I always

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recommend that you watch these
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be the biggest chat. I know some
of you all come here to interact

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with others. So if you are
watching live, go to www dot the

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black vault.com/live That will
bounce you directly to the

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channel, you'll see the video is
live as we speak. And of course,

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the chat is already bumping. The
other note that I wanted to give

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you is I am happy to take as
many questions as you'd like I

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have a little bit of time today,
which is kind of nice. And this

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is why I decided to switch. It's
because of all of the feedback

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that I have seen online on this
article. And I'm it it's it's

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getting a little bit crazy,
where people are clearly upset.

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And I wanted to do this video to
kind of put into context here

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what we're reading. Now, let me
preface it all, by saying you're

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you're looking at somebody who
has made dedicated videos, to

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the horrific reporting in the
past by the New York Times. So I

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am not sitting here trying to
defend the New York Times in any

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way. But I want to be as fair as
possible because so many are

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attacking journalist Julian
Barnes, who let me just click

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here real quick. I forget his
exact title. He's a national

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security reporter from New York
Times covering intelligence

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agencies, I thought he had a
bigger title. I should have

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looked for that. But did not but
regardless reporter for the New

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York Times, you don't just walk
into a job like that. He's

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obviously got a very big
journalistic background. He's

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done quite a bit for quite some
time. So I don't go out of the

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starting gate just trashing
somebody because they don't say

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what I like, I want to be fair
here and give anybody I don't

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care if it's the New York Times
or a blog site that no one's

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heard of, or anything in
between. I give it time to be

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right. And I give it time to
find the evidence to be right.

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But to go back what I said
you're looking at a guy who has

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made these dedicated videos,
essentially trashing previous

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reporting. So I'm not here to
defend but I'm also not here to

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trash it this time. I think the
context once we get through it

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will give a little bit more of
an understanding of where we

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should be instead of lashing
out. So that said, I am always

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surprised at the reaction to
these articles. Let me bring it

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up, just so you guys can see
what I'm talking about. Do my

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best to zoom in, collapse this,

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I hope that it will stay on for
me it goes to a paywall a lot of

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times. So I'm hoping that's not
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here's the article if you guys
haven't seen it yet, that has

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created the ruckus. Now on
Monday, we are supposed to get a

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public UAP report. I have
confirmed that there will be a

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public version. There's some
some question mark about that.

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If that gets walked back, I'll
be very, very surprised. To some

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of you that may not be a
surprise, but I wanted to at

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least clear that up that there
is talk about the public report

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and it should be delivered
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have been able to also confirm,
and this is not a shock to most

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including myself, that there
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delivered as well on the same
day as those frequent watchers

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of this channel, you know that
the day after that June report

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from last year, I had filed a
case on a mandatory

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declassification review of that
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took until March, I believe, of
this year of 2022 to get it but

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at least I got it and was able
to kind of get a little bit more

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of a glimpse into the classified
aspects of all of this, of

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course, redactions came along
with it. But it came with enough

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detail that allowed me to kind
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what else was going on. So for
those of you who might be

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curious, I'll tell you right
here, and now I've already

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drafted the case, request to
once it drops, once the product

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is created, it will be filed,
and I will go after that

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classified version as well. This
time around, I would likely

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won't be alone. The last time I
believe there was only one other

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request or that filed a couple
of weeks after myself on an MDR

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level. I know Brian Bender from
Politico had later gone after it

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through FOIA, which generated a
different version of it, but it

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was the same redactions across
the board. But anyway, there's a

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lot more eyeballs on this. And
just again, wanted to address

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those questions because I got
that asked a lot in the last

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couple of days on social media.
So what I want to do to at least

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lay the groundwork to what this
article then entails because I

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believe that what I just went
over plays into the context of

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what we're looking for. So the
header again, the headline, many

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military UFO reports are just
foreign spying, or airborne

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trash. Keyword there is many.
What what does that mean? We

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don't have a report yet. So
obviously, Julian Barnes is

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getting that from somewhere,
does many mean the majority, the

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minority, the many that he was
allowed to know about? So many

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unanswered questions there. But
at least he didn't say the

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majority, at least I don't
recall that word being used in

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here. And the headline said many
that could very well be true.

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Forget space, aliens or
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Classified assessments show that
many episodes have ordinary

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explanations. This is what gets
interesting about that sub

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header. He's hinting that he is
now privy to the classified

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assessments and what they show.
I can tell you just from

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experience on the last time
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version of the report, just the
page count, at the time of my

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filing was part of a classified
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I was able to later get that it
didn't take too long. But I was

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later able to get that. My whole
point with this is now depending

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upon Julian Barnes's sources,
were getting into a classified

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arena. He may not know the
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or anything like that. But my
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with this, from a legal
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considered a classified or a. I
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that's the wrong word. But it's
essentially a exempted piece of

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information because it's part of
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whatever Julian Barnes is
reporting and his anonymous

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sources because no one was named
in this, except for Susan Goff

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the Pentagon spokesperson, they
are talking to him about the

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classified version of this, this
that will become key here as we

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go over it.

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Government officials believe
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foreign powers and weather
balloons, or other airborne

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clutter explain most recent
incidents of unidentified aerial

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phenomenon Government speak for
UFOs as when, as well as many

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episode episodes in past years.
The sightings have puzzled the

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Pentagon and intelligence
agencies for yours fueling

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theories about visiting space
aliens and spying by a hostile

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nation using advanced
technology. But government

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officials say many of the
incidents have far more ordinary

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explanations. I know a lot of
people are upset his word usage

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of space aliens, whatever I
mean, it is what it is. We can't

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really we can't really mince
every little vowel here on the

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wording. It's clear, though,
that he's dismissing that. And

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it's clear that that his angle
here is that it's not aliens.

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It's many of them are
explainable, he did say most

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appear. Most recent incidents,
again, I don't want to get

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playing into semantics,
semantics and dissecting every

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character here. But I'm curious
as where this is going. Because

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with that caveat of the
classified assessments,

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I put a prediction out there on
Twitter a few days ago that the

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public version which will likely
reflect the classified one, if

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they get into statistics, I
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rate of being able to identify
the cases will be much higher.

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Prior if you recall, they were
only able to identify one, and

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they labeled that as a deflating
balloon. But this time around

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the question mark is what are
they going to be? So my guess

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and this is, I'm stressing
guests speculation. It's not

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using anything that I know
behind the scenes. It is

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literally just a guess. And I
put a Twitter thread out there

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just for others to have fun as
well, like take a guess what,

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how many pages? Will there be
graphics, so on and so forth.

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And one of my one of my guesses
was that they would have these

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statistics, but a much higher
percentage of identified. And I

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think the first time around in
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learning curve for them. I think
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reacted. I think they saw how
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what they did by that was going
to adjust their public message

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for many different reasons. If
you want to call that cover up

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conspiracy, whatever. That's up
to you. But I think that they're

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going to learn from that. So
that went into my guess that

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it's going to be longer. I took
a guess and said 14 pages versus

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the nine that it was prior. But
it'll show more effort. I

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believe that the graphics, I
said that there'll be four

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thumbnails, I didn't say what
the thumbnails were. But I think

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that there'll be some graphics
in there. Reason is, I think,

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though, they'll want to show
more effort. Because to the

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public, I think that it looked
rushed. I think that to

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Congress, it wasn't adequate
enough. So I think that there's

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going to be that effort to put
in a little bit more to this.

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But in the same respect, they
can use this. They can say now

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that they've done more
investigation, they've allocated

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more resources, they've
allocated more people, they've

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allocated much more to the
effort to then identify more.

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And when you go back to the
reporting here by Julian Barnes,

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if his sources are legit, which
I really don't have reason to

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doubt it, but I hate anonymous
sources. I don't care what they

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add to the UFO conversation. I
said that earlier today on

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Twitter, I don't care what side
of the fence they're on. If it's

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an anonymous source, I hate it.
It doesn't do us any good. I'm

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going to reflect the same
sentiment to this. I'm not

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saying that I buy it hook line
and sinker. But I also say I

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don't doubt it. What we're
seeing here unfold with the New

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York Times reporting, if
accurate, is exactly what we

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should have expected. I pulled
up an article posted that on

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Twitter today also that I wrote
back in 2020. And obviously,

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it's a little dated, it was 2020
August to be exact. But it was

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essentially the run up to a UFO
or UAP hearing 1960s style. I

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even have a video on this
channel, I invite you all to

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look at. And in essence, what I
did was I explored the run up to

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the previous late 1960s UFO
hearings and congressional

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interest and Senate pushes for
transparency, and let's get more

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people involved. Well, in the
end, we were left with the

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Condon report, Project Blue Book
was cancelled in 1969 officially

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closed the door and I think it
was January of 1970. And it

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wasn't until the last five years
or so that UFOs and the

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government finally started, you
know, essentially coexisting

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again. My fear in 2020, I
believe is kind of playing out.

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And it is this this effort by
the US government to finally

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have a refreshed ability to tell
the general public Well, look,

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we looked into it. There was a
lot of unknowns, but when we put

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more research resources to it,
we were able to identify

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everything

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That is not to say That's right.
Or I endorsed that. For those of

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you who know me, you might be
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there's over 330 of you watching
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now, which some of you may be
new to this channel. I'm known

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in some circles as being pretty
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also say that there's something
to these phenomena plural, that

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should be investigated. But I
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what the US government is going
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that through the 1960s, late
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they that they underwent, had
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beginning to come crashing down
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the last few years, you can
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characters, those that were
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and government personnel that
came out, it was like you could

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draw a line from the 1960s to
the last couple of years. And it

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really matched up like a
playbook. I'm not insinuating

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that it is coming from a
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something to look at. And
something to realize that this

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is a game. It has been a game
for more than 75 years. That

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sounds conspiratorial, but I can
show you reams of information

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that that supports, there is
something again to these

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phenomena that we cannot explain
not the military, not the

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government, not the general
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That's what it is. On top of
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incidents where numerous
government agencies to this day,

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consider UFO and UAP information
at the highest classification

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levels of top secret and secret
and will deny you access to

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them. I just posted a document
today about our nuclear

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arsenals, and nuclear reviews
and stuff like that, I can tell

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you after filing 10,000 requests
over the last 26 plus years,

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UFOs and UAP has been some of
the most elusive and most

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difficult topics to to
investigate. And on top of that,

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I see more games through legal
ways of accessing that that

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information than I do others.
Why is that? I don't know. And

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by the way, the majority of the
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overall, is not UFOs. Okay, so
some some may think and I think

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I saw Mick West here, MC friend
of the show, I really do respect

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MC. And you should too adds a
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don't always agree with him.
He's here in the chat, he would

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call that a five majority was
requesting UFO information,

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essentially a bias and the
numbers, that essentially I

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would see more problems with
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about UFOs. And actually, that I
wanted to point out is not a

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statistical bias. It's the
opposite. I don't request UFO

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information as much as I do
other. So I just wanted to kind

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of put that out there for for
for our friend, Mick. And hello,

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Mick. It's good to Good to see
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missed it again. There you are.
All right, MC. So welcome to the

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channel, I don't know how often
you poke in. I always like to

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think that you watch everything
and just can't touch what I have

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to say. Because you know, you
can't debunk it. But no joking

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aside, it's always good to see
it. So that being said, you have

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all that information. But when
you look at the data, you look

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at the information, you look at
the documentation. It is that

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game. And this is what they are
doing and what one of the things

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I wanted to accomplish with the
show, and I'll get back to the

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article is to encourage you not
to give up. And it doesn't

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matter where on the fence you
are. There's a lot of you know,

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hardcore believers out there.
That's not my audience. So

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you're likely not here. But
rather, if you're kind of on the

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fence, and you don't know what
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more and more frustrated, I had
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messages today from people that
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This is I'm done. Like I am so
frustrated. And I'm here to tell

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you that I've fired a nickel for
every time I had that thought,

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you know, I'd be not only rich
but retired with a private

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island somewhere. But that is
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And in the last couple of months
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people with the best of
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this mystery gets so fed up with
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what I'm done, I'm out. And
either they literally just go

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out, you never hear from them
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to a point of just attacking
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which isn't good in itself. So
there's a lot of mindsets out

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there. And I'm here to just say,
don't judge it by the New York

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Times article here. Because even
if it's accurate, even if

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everything that you read here
and no, I won't read the whole

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thing, I invite you all to do so
but even if everything that was

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printed here is absolute fact,
which it's actually provably not

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but regardless if it was
absolute fact that shouldn't

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deter you From from looking into
what this topic is all about,

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because there is still ample
evidence to support that we

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should continue to give it
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that I wanted to point out in
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into everything that we're
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attempt to explain. And I think
that that goes back to the

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project Bluebook days, they
wanted to give the impression it

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was all an investigation. But
when you look at the actual

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evidence, the real documents,
what they say at a press podium,

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is not what the actual evidence
says. And even though project

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Bluebook was largely a very
transparent, quote, unquote,

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transparent effort, meaning
journalists at the time could

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actually call the Air Force and
arrange seeing the files, there

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was a lot of stuff behind the
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that's some of the more
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realize that there wasn't really
an investigation. But rather, it

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was an effort for an explanation
that instead of investigating

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the UFOs, if you look at the
actual correspondence, so not

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necessarily the case files, but
some of the correspondence

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letters that go along with it,
you can see the dripping bias

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from the investigators. I have a
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called from the desks of project
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from the one of the original
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personnel that was found by a
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story. I won't repeat it again.
But I've talked about it quite a

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few times. But regardless, the
bottom line is all these

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documents came from this
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team toward towards the end of
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turnover. But again, directly
worked on the program took a lot

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of the unclassified material
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that material, you realize that
there was much more going on

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than an investigation that we
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rather it was an explanation.
And it also showed insight into

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Dr. J. Allen Hynek, who, if you
don't know, was the lead

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scientist that looked into the
UFO incidents through the

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40s 50s and 60s, he was the go
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hardcore skeptic who explained
everything or debunked

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everything to someone who later
became a believer. Now whether

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or not you believe everything
that Dr. J. Allen Hynek had to

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say that's irrelevant. What is
relevant is the fact that a

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scientist properly trained
properly credentialed saw what

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the military was doing, went in
with essentially a job debunk

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and came out a believer. That's
pretty interesting. Fast

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forward. Look at what we're
doing now and an investigation.

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Government military says we're
looking into it. It's a

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potential threat, which by the
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I don't think yet. That echoes
what happened during the project

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Bluebook years. And potential
threat, we're looking into it,

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we go from unknown, unknown
unknown, hey, we need more

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money. We need more
instrumentation, we need more

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everything. Now, we come to
another UAP report. And if what

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the New York Times is saying,
well, that shouldn't be a

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surprise to any of you, because
that is that cover up playbook

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that they have played time and
time again. Does that mean that

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it's right or wrong? Not
necessarily. But it does mean

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that there is a predictable
pattern. So you guys got a lot

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of reading material today. But I
invite you to go read that

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article I wrote in 2020, and
then did a video earlier in

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2021, about the same exact
thing. And it really is

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fascinating to see the parallels
on how all of this is playing

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out. Going back to that article
and I skipped quite a bit. But

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they talked about the go fast,
the gimbal and the FLIR ONE. Now

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just a quick preface for those
who aren't familiar with this

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channel because now there's
about 420 of you watching so the

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audience is growing. I assume
some of you may be new to this

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channel. I was my connection to
the gimbal, the FLIR and the go

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fast after they leaked. People
hate me when I call it a leak.

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But I think it's it's pretty
clear. They were not authorized

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to come out when they originally
did. When I was pushing the Navy

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at the time for answers is going
back a couple of years. I had

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gotten in writing this was the
first time ever that they were

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considered unidentified aerial
phenomena. That was the tag that

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they had on all three videos.
They could not identify all

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three. So I have paraphrasing
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writing. I wrote an article and
went wildly viral across the

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world. It was a huge deal. Why?
Because it was an official word.

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Never before that. Had they ever
labeled those three videos. We

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were just told the narrative
from to the stars Academy, and

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12 billion media outlets that
carry that story. But we never

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had word from the Military, I
will admit, a million times over

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myself. I was floored when I got
that I did not expect that at

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all. And I expected a
explanation of some kind. Keep

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in mind documentation internally
that Luis Elizondo had

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submitted, called them drones
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these kind of weird things going
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they're unidentified. Now back
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Besides the images of green
triangles, excuse me, they

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obviously go into those green
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you likely know them as the
other recordings released by the

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Pentagon have not been
categorized as surveillance

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incidents, at least so far. But
Pentagon officials do not

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believe that any of them
represent aliens either. So

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again, New York Times is really
kind of punching this, it's not

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aliens, it's not aliens. And
we'll we'll deal with that. And

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also in a moment, one of the
videos referred to as go fast

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appears to show an object moving
at immense speed. But in that an

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analysis by the military says
that that is an illusion created

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by the angle of observation
against water. According to

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Pentagon calculations, the
object is moving only about 30

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miles per hour. So want to deal
with that first one of the

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videos referred to as go fast.
This was one that the US Navy

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told me they considered
unidentified, they labeled it

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UAP, a few years back, and that
was a big deal. Now they're

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saying the military analyzed
that footage directly. And that

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it was simply an illusion
created by the angle of

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observation against water. This
is a moment where I wish I could

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bring MC in for at least some
context on that MC if you're

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still here, feel free to type
it. My guess is you have a video

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on this. As MC knows, and as
most of my regular audience

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knows, I stay away from all that
video analysis. I'm just not

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educated enough to get it. I can
do you know, some analysis, but

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when it gets into math, angles,
instrumentation, and some of

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those technical things that not
only MC but on the opposite end

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of this coin as well, in this
debate, both sides are when you

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talk about, let's say SVU and
Robert Powell and his team and

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when they're analyzing
everything, videos and speed

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calculations, hey, I'm here to
admit way over my noggin, right,

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so I stay out of it. But what's
interesting to me is away from

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the analysis part of it whether
or not that's right or wrong,

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this is a clear alter alteration
of the military's view they went

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from we have this unidentified
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gimbal, a couple years back to
military analyzed it, it's an

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illusion created by the angle of
observation, observation against

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water. So very reminiscent to
those project Bluebook days,

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they take in the report, it's
unidentified, and they spin it

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and identify, are they wrong?
It's quite possible. They're not

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wrong. I have no idea. Again,
not educated enough to start

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battling and duking it out from
an analysis standpoint. But

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what's interesting is, why
couldn't Why couldn't they

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figure this out years ago? Why
were they willing to put that

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label on this at the time? If
you believe all the rumors and

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stories, and we'll save the
eighth tip UFO study for a

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different debate for a different
day? Let's say for a moment,

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yes, a tip was this UFO study?
Are you telling me that they

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could not have done any analysis
at that time? Or is this spin?

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And I don't have an answer to
that. But I find it interesting

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that they have done a 180 on the
label, and it doesn't stop at

434
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and I may have I may have
misspoke on the gimbal and go

435
00:28:50,129 --> 00:28:53,459
fast. So forgive me if I did.
What I just went over was the go

436
00:28:53,459 --> 00:28:58,229
fast video. And that was the
illusion created by the angle of

437
00:28:58,229 --> 00:29:01,769
observation against water. So I
think I caught myself Miss

438
00:29:01,769 --> 00:29:05,069
speaking there labeling that the
gimbal hopefully on the screen

439
00:29:05,069 --> 00:29:09,089
that made sense for you watching
this visually. But they also

440
00:29:09,089 --> 00:29:11,729
talked about the gimbal. So it
didn't just stop at the go fast.

441
00:29:12,359 --> 00:29:16,019
It is on the gimbal as well. The
gimbal shows an object that

442
00:29:16,019 --> 00:29:18,809
appears to be turning or
spinning military officials now

443
00:29:18,809 --> 00:29:22,649
believe that is the optics of
the classified image sensor

444
00:29:22,949 --> 00:29:26,339
designed to help target weapons
make the object appear like it

445
00:29:26,339 --> 00:29:32,309
is moving in a strange way is a
joys of live because if I screw

446
00:29:32,309 --> 00:29:35,609
up can't go back. So forgive me
on the the misspeak there but

447
00:29:35,609 --> 00:29:40,139
obviously gimble there now
explaining as well. Mick would

448
00:29:40,139 --> 00:29:42,929
be the person to kind of again
give a little bit of context

449
00:29:42,929 --> 00:29:46,859
from that skeptical point of
view. I will let him and those

450
00:29:46,859 --> 00:29:49,979
that have done the analysis on
the other end of the spectrum to

451
00:29:49,979 --> 00:29:56,129
Duke that out for the same
reason. over my head. They also

452
00:29:56,129 --> 00:29:59,969
talked about the FLIR and I'm
just gonna have to do a cheat

453
00:29:59,999 --> 00:30:08,819
here to find it. Least I think
they did forgive me here as I

454
00:30:08,819 --> 00:30:13,979
kind of look around, why isn't
this I'm not sure what happened

455
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:24,660
Okay, some of you helped me out
here when I was preparing for

456
00:30:24,660 --> 00:30:32,670
the show and I will fully admit
I was kind of rushing in the

457
00:30:32,670 --> 00:30:37,320
sense that this is this is all
unfolding right now. I'm fairly

458
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,560
confident that they labeled the
FLIR ONE as the one that hovers

459
00:30:40,590 --> 00:30:44,070
over the water, and I was going
to chat with you guys about the

460
00:30:44,130 --> 00:30:47,970
inaccuracy of that and it
appears that FLIR ONE has been

461
00:30:47,970 --> 00:30:54,510
taken out. So TBD I'm not going
to do this on the fly with you

462
00:30:54,510 --> 00:30:58,860
guys. Maybe in the chat if you
guys want to do this. I'm, I'm

463
00:30:58,860 --> 00:31:02,730
fairly confident I read FLIR ONE
in here, but it's not on there

464
00:31:02,730 --> 00:31:07,320
anymore. FLIR does not exist,
but it says now. Pentagon

465
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,840
analysts remain puzzled by some
of the videos collected by the

466
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,750
military one where an object
hovers over the water jumps are

467
00:31:12,750 --> 00:31:15,870
radically then peels away is
more difficult to explain

468
00:31:15,870 --> 00:31:18,900
official said But analysts who
have studied that video, as well

469
00:31:18,900 --> 00:31:21,630
as ones associated with
eyewitness reports from aviators

470
00:31:22,020 --> 00:31:26,070
are convinced it is not a piece
of alien technology here. Let me

471
00:31:26,070 --> 00:31:28,890
check something real quick. Let
me see if there's corrections

472
00:31:28,890 --> 00:31:35,970
already. Not yet. Okay. Ah, I'm
Julian took it out. Thank you,

473
00:31:35,970 --> 00:31:42,960
MC. I. Oh, you're to blame MC. I
knew it. Yeah, see, all of this

474
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,410
is happening. All this is
happening, kind of as we're

475
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,530
dissecting this, so the New York
Times is altering their

476
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,560
description. I was going to
point out the inaccuracy about

477
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:57,210
that Mick obviously tweeted
about it, and Julian Barnes took

478
00:31:57,210 --> 00:32:02,910
it out. So okay, there you go.
But it's not noted in the bottom

479
00:32:02,910 --> 00:32:06,330
I'm sure there's some
journalistic rule that allows

480
00:32:06,330 --> 00:32:09,360
them not to have to list the
correction but because that does

481
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,870
create quite a bit of of
confusion. So we'll deal with

482
00:32:12,870 --> 00:32:15,870
that in a later video. But thank
you Mick. As always, I know

483
00:32:15,870 --> 00:32:19,230
you're on top of a lot of this
stuff here. Hold on as we go

484
00:32:19,230 --> 00:32:22,380
here, Midwest also as about the
paragraph is basically still

485
00:32:22,380 --> 00:32:26,280
there. Just remove mentioned a
FLIR ONE. So I'm curious MC if

486
00:32:26,310 --> 00:32:30,090
if there by the description, it
doesn't seem like it would be

487
00:32:30,090 --> 00:32:33,000
the FLIR video, which I was
going to point out. But are they

488
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:37,170
now talking about a different
video? Is that something that we

489
00:32:37,170 --> 00:32:39,930
haven't seen yet is that
something will potentially see

490
00:32:40,380 --> 00:32:43,980
released with the public report
or potentially aired and later

491
00:32:43,980 --> 00:32:46,710
hearing. I mean, who knows?
These are all guesses, because

492
00:32:46,710 --> 00:32:50,580
as you can see, the New York
Times is changing stuff, as

493
00:32:50,580 --> 00:32:54,510
we're as we're talking. So
that's that back on track here.

494
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,140
I invite you to read the whole
article. But I think what we're

495
00:32:58,140 --> 00:33:03,120
seeing here is potentially
potential potentially accurate

496
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:07,680
reporting. Bear with me in the
context of how it's being

497
00:33:07,710 --> 00:33:11,250
reported, that if the government
is going to take this stance,

498
00:33:11,550 --> 00:33:16,740
Julian Barnes shouldn't be
crucified by UFO, Twitter or

499
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:21,120
whomever is going after him. I
posted on one thread today. And

500
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:25,080
I don't want to, you know, talk
ill of anybody, so no names

501
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:29,400
needed, but essentially name
calling. Julian Barnes. I don't

502
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:33,930
know Julian Barnes. And I just
find it unfair that we start

503
00:33:33,930 --> 00:33:38,850
attacking the messenger, because
if he's reporting on the stance

504
00:33:38,850 --> 00:33:41,310
of, of what the government is
going to be saying in this

505
00:33:41,310 --> 00:33:46,440
report, if this is accurate, for
the most part, and that was what

506
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:50,220
I was going to reference was the
FLIR reference about accuracy.

507
00:33:50,460 --> 00:33:53,010
But let's just say the core of
this as accurate and what the

508
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,790
government is going to say on
Monday, or if the report is

509
00:33:56,790 --> 00:34:01,200
late. Why are we crucifying
reporter who's who's actually

510
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,350
reporting accurately, you know,
go after the government, but go

511
00:34:04,350 --> 00:34:07,350
after them with evidence and
let's see what's going to

512
00:34:07,350 --> 00:34:10,560
happen. And that's the bottom
line that I think a lot of

513
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:14,700
people are forgetting on a
couple sides of this, those that

514
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,400
I had mentioned earlier, that
are just getting so fed up with

515
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,260
this, and they're just kind of
piecing out and they don't want

516
00:34:19,260 --> 00:34:21,000
to deal with the conversation
anymore.

517
00:34:22,710 --> 00:34:25,560
We have to understand that the
government side of this is only

518
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:30,450
one small piece of the puzzle.
And on top of that, what they

519
00:34:30,450 --> 00:34:35,610
say what kind of how I phrase it
often is what they say at a

520
00:34:35,610 --> 00:34:38,160
press podium, but we all know
that it's not always a press

521
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:41,940
podium, but whether that be
press statements, or public

522
00:34:41,940 --> 00:34:46,500
reports, or even a congressional
hearing. That's not the end all

523
00:34:46,530 --> 00:34:50,760
be all. And that's not me,
again, being a conspiracy

524
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:55,710
theorist or conspiratorial, but
rather that's being realistic.

525
00:34:55,860 --> 00:34:59,970
That is using a documented
history that what the gun

526
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,960
Government and military wants
you to believe is not always

527
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:09,240
necessarily the truth. big
shocker there I know, but it is

528
00:35:09,240 --> 00:35:12,120
provable. And we've seen that
time and time again. Now does

529
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,120
that prove aliens? Of course
not. And I'm not here to say

530
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:19,500
that nor should anybody, we
really truly just don't know

531
00:35:19,530 --> 00:35:24,660
what's going on. But speaking of
aliens, and how the this article

532
00:35:24,660 --> 00:35:27,570
essentially poo pooed, that
whole idea go on, it's not space

533
00:35:27,570 --> 00:35:30,150
aliens is not aliens. And
there's, there's quite a few

534
00:35:30,150 --> 00:35:34,740
references to aliens, there's 12
of them to be exact if you do a

535
00:35:34,740 --> 00:35:41,730
word find. So alien or aliens
appear 12 times in this article,

536
00:35:42,330 --> 00:35:45,390
Extra Terrestrial another one,
maybe there's other forms of

537
00:35:45,390 --> 00:35:49,200
saying alien. So obviously,
they're really pushing this

538
00:35:49,230 --> 00:35:52,230
narrative, meaning the New York
Times that, hey, there's no

539
00:35:52,230 --> 00:35:56,640
evidence, this is aliens. And it
looks like you know, many of

540
00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:02,160
them are drones, and foreign
spying equipment or drones, or

541
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,790
trash. I don't know why trash
came out of nowhere. I mean, if

542
00:36:05,790 --> 00:36:08,130
trash was that common, which I'm
sure that there's going to be

543
00:36:08,130 --> 00:36:12,330
some type of cases that do that.
We would have saw that more in

544
00:36:12,330 --> 00:36:15,390
the in the in the first report,
which we didn't, we saw that as

545
00:36:15,390 --> 00:36:18,150
one of the categories, but none
of them fit. But who knows,

546
00:36:18,150 --> 00:36:21,840
maybe something they've done in
the last year now puts a large

547
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:26,340
majority, or many or however you
want to say it in the trash

548
00:36:26,340 --> 00:36:30,000
category. But that is all kind
of a question mark. But here's

549
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,880
kind of one of the issues that I
had. And I know another thing

550
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,640
that I had tweeted out today,
but just to kind of put it into

551
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:41,790
context is that you see the New
York Times and as I mentioned in

552
00:36:41,790 --> 00:36:45,630
the beginning of the show, do
some horrible reporting when it

553
00:36:45,630 --> 00:36:51,030
comes to UAP. And I did then
what I do now, and I do try and

554
00:36:51,030 --> 00:36:55,920
be as fair as possible, some of
my biggest haters out there will

555
00:36:55,920 --> 00:37:01,710
not agree with me. But truly do
try and be as again, as fair as

556
00:37:01,710 --> 00:37:05,130
possible and give it time to
either be true or for evidence

557
00:37:05,130 --> 00:37:08,550
to present itself. And when it's
clearly not like for example,

558
00:37:08,550 --> 00:37:12,660
the New York Times article that
talked about offworld vehicles,

559
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,870
when you have quite a few
corrections listed at the bottom

560
00:37:15,870 --> 00:37:19,050
of the article, you know that
something kind of went awry,

561
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,630
corrections are going to happen.
I don't fault journalists if

562
00:37:21,630 --> 00:37:24,750
they have to correct something.
But I do fall journalist for

563
00:37:24,750 --> 00:37:27,480
being careless. And I think that
that's one of the things that

564
00:37:27,570 --> 00:37:31,710
happened in that article. But in
the effort to be fair, you have

565
00:37:31,740 --> 00:37:35,160
a article that says 15 times
combining alien and

566
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:39,270
extraterrestrial, it's not that
but the same masthead, The New

567
00:37:39,270 --> 00:37:47,250
York Times had reported that in
July of 2020, Dr. Eric Davis,

568
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,160
who now works for Aerospace
Corporation, a defense

569
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,640
contractor said he gave a
classified briefing to a defense

570
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:57,630
department agency as recently as
March about retrievals. From off

571
00:37:57,660 --> 00:38:02,400
world vehicles not made on this
earth. If you ask me they're

572
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,460
insinuating aliens are
extraterrestrial, right? I mean,

573
00:38:05,670 --> 00:38:08,370
you can't have an offworld
vehicle that's not made on

574
00:38:08,370 --> 00:38:12,990
planet Earth, and have it be
human. So and nor is that a

575
00:38:12,990 --> 00:38:15,240
natural thing. So okay,

576
00:38:15,240 --> 00:38:19,020
so we're talking about aliens,
right? That's clearly what this

577
00:38:19,020 --> 00:38:25,110
article was putting so much on.
For those who aren't aware in

578
00:38:25,110 --> 00:38:29,580
here. Senator Harry Reid was
quoted before he passed away as

579
00:38:29,580 --> 00:38:33,330
essentially confirming the
notion that there was retrieved

580
00:38:33,330 --> 00:38:38,670
material of offworld vehicles
that was later taken out and

581
00:38:38,670 --> 00:38:42,000
corrected. At the bottom of the
article, I have a full video,

582
00:38:42,180 --> 00:38:45,420
dissecting that article, the
corrections, the messiness of

583
00:38:45,420 --> 00:38:49,860
it, and I even show you
corrections that were made well

584
00:38:49,860 --> 00:38:52,830
after it was published, and not
just in the first hour or so.

585
00:38:53,010 --> 00:38:55,500
But well, after it was published
that they changed things but

586
00:38:55,500 --> 00:38:59,610
didn't note it. So again, I
don't pretend to know every

587
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,730
single journalistic requirement
that they have to list

588
00:39:02,730 --> 00:39:05,670
corrections. I just think that
that was pretty shady when you

589
00:39:05,670 --> 00:39:08,610
already have a list of
corrections. But that being

590
00:39:08,610 --> 00:39:12,180
said, The New York Times
reported this. This is I want to

591
00:39:12,180 --> 00:39:16,020
stress the New York Times and
not you know, Joe Blows blog

592
00:39:16,020 --> 00:39:18,630
somewhere where an anonymous
source comes around and says,

593
00:39:18,630 --> 00:39:23,340
Well, you know, we've retrieved
UFO Alien technology. I just

594
00:39:23,340 --> 00:39:26,190
can't tell you where or who I am
or how I know that, but trust

595
00:39:26,190 --> 00:39:30,450
me, bro. That's not what this
is. They named the person in

596
00:39:30,450 --> 00:39:34,080
this New York Times article. So
you know, contrary to what

597
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:37,140
usually is the fact where you
have anonymous sources with

598
00:39:37,140 --> 00:39:40,530
claims like this. You actually
have someone and even though

599
00:39:40,530 --> 00:39:45,840
Harry Reid's support, quote was
taken out, you still have Dr.

600
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:49,950
Eric Davis, despite my personal
thoughts on the validity of

601
00:39:49,950 --> 00:39:53,910
this, when you write for the New
York Times, and it's not an op

602
00:39:53,910 --> 00:39:57,930
ed, I would think that the
weight of the masthead that ran

603
00:39:57,930 --> 00:40:02,460
the article comes along with it.
The editorial board is there for

604
00:40:02,490 --> 00:40:05,400
a reason that they look at the
claims that their paper is

605
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,970
printing and go, Okay, this may
be an anonymous source. But can

606
00:40:08,970 --> 00:40:11,820
you back this up? Can you back
this up? Can you back this up?

607
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:15,990
And between the journalist and
that board and again, their

608
00:40:16,170 --> 00:40:20,280
their whole process of verifying
the information, then they

609
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:24,510
become comfortable putting their
masthead on it. an op ed comes

610
00:40:24,510 --> 00:40:27,240
with a disclaimer. So that's
totally different. It's an

611
00:40:27,270 --> 00:40:31,530
opinion editorial. It shows
somebody's thoughts or beliefs

612
00:40:31,530 --> 00:40:35,190
about something. And that
disclaimer says we don't

613
00:40:35,190 --> 00:40:39,480
necessarily endorse the ideas or
beliefs in this article. That's

614
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:43,950
not what happens with reporting
like this. And yet, even though

615
00:40:43,950 --> 00:40:47,490
it was a mess, Dr. Davis's
claims stayed in there. So

616
00:40:47,700 --> 00:40:51,900
question is did the New York
Times editorial board away from

617
00:40:51,900 --> 00:40:54,780
the journalists that were on the
byline, which were Ralph

618
00:40:54,780 --> 00:40:59,070
Blumenthal and Leslie Kane on
this particular article? July

619
00:40:59,070 --> 00:41:02,820
23 2020, was when it was
published. There's the headline

620
00:41:02,820 --> 00:41:05,400
for if you want to look it up no
longer in shadows, Pentagon's

621
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:12,210
UFO unit will make some findings
public. If they published that,

622
00:41:12,210 --> 00:41:16,380
don't you think that that should
be referenced in an article like

623
00:41:16,380 --> 00:41:20,280
this? Where now they're saying
there's nothing, no evidence to

624
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,970
aliens? There's no, they didn't
say offworld vehicles, but

625
00:41:23,970 --> 00:41:28,230
essentially no evidence of any
of that. It's okay, if

626
00:41:28,230 --> 00:41:32,490
journalists contradict each
other, but the paper itself are,

627
00:41:32,820 --> 00:41:36,810
is publishing these facts. And
to me, and this is just an

628
00:41:36,810 --> 00:41:40,620
opinion, again, maybe there's
some kind of, you know, written

629
00:41:40,620 --> 00:41:43,890
rule out there that I'm just not
aware of. But when, when a

630
00:41:43,890 --> 00:41:48,570
publication like this deals with
a topic within 24 months of each

631
00:41:48,570 --> 00:41:53,640
other, and you have wildly
different reporting, shouldn't

632
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:58,140
that contradiction, at the very
least be noted? I'm not even

633
00:41:58,140 --> 00:42:03,060
saying correct it. I'm just
saying, note it, that all of the

634
00:42:03,060 --> 00:42:06,750
sources that Julian Barnes who
he did not name, by the way,

635
00:42:06,750 --> 00:42:10,680
except Susan golf, and her tone
was, you know, pretty much the

636
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,440
same of what we're used to just
there's classification for a

637
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:18,630
reason, no evidence of aliens,
whatever. If that's what all of

638
00:42:18,630 --> 00:42:22,170
his sources are saying, Should
he not have referenced his own

639
00:42:24,660 --> 00:42:28,140
mainstream outlet that he's
writing for that contradicted

640
00:42:28,140 --> 00:42:32,400
that with a named source? I
would think you'd at least want

641
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:36,030
to note the contradiction. And
this isn't just because I like

642
00:42:36,030 --> 00:42:40,410
UFO is where I think you should
do a certain thing. But in 2020,

643
00:42:40,410 --> 00:42:43,860
that was the stance of the New
York Times, that if they truly

644
00:42:43,860 --> 00:42:47,160
vetted the information that they
published, there was enough for

645
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,250
them to say, You know what,
there's likely enough truth to

646
00:42:50,250 --> 00:42:53,130
this, that we feel comfortable
putting our masthead above it.

647
00:42:53,340 --> 00:42:57,810
So New York Times published the
claim. Again, I'm stressing

648
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:02,610
regardless of what I feel about
it. Fast forward to 2022. Now

649
00:43:02,610 --> 00:43:06,150
we're about to get a second UAP
report, that same publication,

650
00:43:06,630 --> 00:43:10,320
prints an article that just
completely destroys the hopes

651
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,780
and dreams of everybody who
thought offworld vehicles are

652
00:43:12,780 --> 00:43:14,310
being retrieved by the US
government.

653
00:43:15,060 --> 00:43:18,780
So doesn't matter who's right or
wrong? Wouldn't you note it? And

654
00:43:18,780 --> 00:43:22,320
they didn't have no idea why. So
those are some of the things

655
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:25,170
that I want to kind of point out
that we are in a mess of a

656
00:43:25,170 --> 00:43:30,240
situation. And if you think you
know what these phenomena are,

657
00:43:30,240 --> 00:43:32,580
and you think you know, what
we're gonna get either Monday or

658
00:43:32,580 --> 00:43:37,080
if it's late whenever we get it.
You likely probably don't, I

659
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:42,630
don't. None of us do it. It is
an absolute crapshoot of what

660
00:43:42,630 --> 00:43:48,750
this is going to be. But I will
say it don't have the, the

661
00:43:48,750 --> 00:43:53,280
outrageous expectations that I'm
seeing some circles have. And

662
00:43:53,310 --> 00:43:59,580
and I had seen a post, I don't
know if he wants me to, to

663
00:43:59,580 --> 00:44:03,060
spotlight him. So I'm not but
his first name is Kyle. And so

664
00:44:03,060 --> 00:44:06,480
he had written that other people
were posting that it was going

665
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:11,340
to be disclosure. And I like to
try and stay on top of things,

666
00:44:11,370 --> 00:44:15,000
but you can't always. And I
thought oh, come on, like some

667
00:44:15,060 --> 00:44:17,670
people are really saying like,
this is disclosure like this, is

668
00:44:17,670 --> 00:44:23,790
it capital D. Aliens are here,
type of disclosure. And

669
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:27,720
essentially, he said yes. And I
was like, Oh, come on, that

670
00:44:27,720 --> 00:44:30,720
can't be and sure enough, I
started seeing these posts from

671
00:44:30,720 --> 00:44:33,960
people with a small following.
So it's not like, you know, one

672
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:38,040
follower joined this month, and
they're making big claims that

673
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:41,550
people are out there thinking
that that aliens are about to be

674
00:44:41,550 --> 00:44:43,770
admitted to in our entire
planet, it's going to change.

675
00:44:44,580 --> 00:44:48,090
And I'm here to say that's not
going to happen. And I look I

676
00:44:48,090 --> 00:44:52,350
cross my fingers. I'm wrong. But
we have to taper our

677
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:59,880
expectations down to reality and
the reality is secrecy and a

678
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:04,230
Active cover up that has gone on
for well more than half a

679
00:45:04,230 --> 00:45:07,920
century. And that is provable.
There's evidence to that I don't

680
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:12,210
think even the biggest debunkers
would, would, would hide from

681
00:45:12,210 --> 00:45:17,190
that statement. The cover up
doesn't equate to aliens. But

682
00:45:17,190 --> 00:45:20,280
what I'm saying is that that is
what they've done. They've

683
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:25,530
obviously skated this to death.
So why would we expect any any

684
00:45:25,530 --> 00:45:29,730
different. And the great thing
about though, just to end that

685
00:45:29,730 --> 00:45:34,170
thought on a positive note, is
the great thing about all of

686
00:45:34,170 --> 00:45:40,290
this is, regardless of what we
get in the public realm, the

687
00:45:40,290 --> 00:45:45,270
public report or a public
hearing, which is all great, but

688
00:45:45,300 --> 00:45:51,180
what goes into that is a paper
trail that far outweighs what we

689
00:45:51,180 --> 00:45:55,410
hear and see. And that's why I
always want to stress to people

690
00:45:55,410 --> 00:46:01,200
don't get discouraged. Just
don't this is what they've done

691
00:46:01,380 --> 00:46:05,670
for decades, doesn't mean it's
alien, doesn't mean it's not, it

692
00:46:05,670 --> 00:46:09,840
just means this is par for the
course. But that paper trail

693
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:14,370
that's being generated, as they
are doing all of this work is

694
00:46:14,490 --> 00:46:19,440
gold, it will keep me and people
like me busy, hopefully, for

695
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:23,610
years to come, simply because
they are putting more money into

696
00:46:23,610 --> 00:46:29,640
this effort. And thus far, we
are seeing a strengthening of

697
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:32,130
the secrecy, which a lot of
people hate me saying, but

698
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:35,640
that's just the reality of it.
But what does that show you is

699
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,010
that just an instrumentation
that's classified, they don't

700
00:46:38,010 --> 00:46:41,430
want to show you? Well, I beg to
differ. I've done a video on

701
00:46:41,430 --> 00:46:45,780
this as well, where I think that
that argument is, is completely

702
00:46:45,780 --> 00:46:49,440
baseless, you don't, you don't
over classify everything, just

703
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,320
because the sensor that took
something is classified, there's

704
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:56,070
a lot of stuff that goes along
with that, that would be at an

705
00:46:56,070 --> 00:46:59,550
unclassified level or something
that wouldn't be exempt. That,

706
00:46:59,580 --> 00:47:03,120
again, is in a different video
have already done and I'm likely

707
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,790
going to talk about that again.
But these arguments that it's

708
00:47:05,790 --> 00:47:08,550
all just classified technology,
or we don't want to tell our

709
00:47:08,550 --> 00:47:13,290
enemies, in my opinion, is
provably bunk. And we can now

710
00:47:13,290 --> 00:47:16,380
prove that by looking at the
information they have put

711
00:47:16,380 --> 00:47:20,040
forward already, some of which
was like, like pulling teeth.

712
00:47:20,700 --> 00:47:23,550
But look at what they've put
forward already that there was

713
00:47:23,550 --> 00:47:26,820
material there for us to see.
And that they were able to

714
00:47:26,820 --> 00:47:29,940
release it. So for them to now
alter that and go oh, sorry, we

715
00:47:29,940 --> 00:47:33,360
can't show you anything now is
ridiculous. And that

716
00:47:34,380 --> 00:47:40,020
I'm I'm highly not shelling a
version of that argument. But I

717
00:47:40,050 --> 00:47:44,850
but I want in much more detail
in a appeal to the US Navy. So

718
00:47:44,850 --> 00:47:50,280
I'm fighting their decision to
withhold all UAP information,

719
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:54,810
videos, photographs, and so on,
which I do know now that exist,

720
00:47:54,990 --> 00:47:58,140
by their own admission, I just
don't know how many, but they

721
00:47:58,140 --> 00:48:02,490
have withheld all that. So my
argument was, the likelihood

722
00:48:02,490 --> 00:48:04,590
that we've already seen
everything that's able to be

723
00:48:04,590 --> 00:48:08,310
released is likely nil. And I,
again went into much greater

724
00:48:08,310 --> 00:48:11,400
detail. So don't get
discouraged. Bottom line,

725
00:48:11,610 --> 00:48:13,620
whether you're a skeptic
believer, or somewhere in

726
00:48:13,620 --> 00:48:17,550
between, this conversation is
going to continue, it doesn't

727
00:48:17,550 --> 00:48:21,540
matter what Julian Barnes says,
or the New York Times prints or

728
00:48:21,570 --> 00:48:26,430
or whomever posts on Twitter,
or, or what you know, whatever

729
00:48:26,430 --> 00:48:29,430
it is, at the end of the day,
this conversation is going to

730
00:48:29,430 --> 00:48:34,200
continue and whatever that
report says, I can guarantee you

731
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:38,040
it's not the end, it just isn't
I think that there will be

732
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:43,560
enough question marks still,
that will keep the majority of

733
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:47,370
us interested. If you're looking
for disclosure in Aliens, it's

734
00:48:47,370 --> 00:48:50,820
not going to happen if you want
to keep pushing forward and

735
00:48:50,820 --> 00:48:54,510
motivate other people to take
part in this whether it be more

736
00:48:54,510 --> 00:48:57,900
journalists or more scientists,
more investigators, more

737
00:48:57,900 --> 00:49:01,680
researchers, more whomever stick
around, because I think that

738
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:05,220
there's going to be a lot more
information that comes out. And

739
00:49:05,580 --> 00:49:10,710
in my opinion, the best evidence
to support that was not given to

740
00:49:10,710 --> 00:49:15,870
you or I willingly. It was not
in the UAP report from last

741
00:49:15,870 --> 00:49:19,140
year. It was not in the UAP
hearing. It was the

742
00:49:19,140 --> 00:49:23,130
documentation and even the
photos and videos that have come

743
00:49:23,130 --> 00:49:26,670
out through the Freedom of
Information Act that support why

744
00:49:26,670 --> 00:49:32,040
I say that and why I hold that
belief. So stick around. I

745
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:34,980
really want to stress that
because it was so discouraging

746
00:49:35,190 --> 00:49:41,370
to see what I've seen just in
the last four hours, five hours

747
00:49:41,370 --> 00:49:44,940
or so since this article came
out. I think I woke up. Yeah,

748
00:49:44,940 --> 00:49:48,480
I'm not sure what time it was.
But regardless, it's so

749
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:53,250
discouraging to see that because
you can't let this get you down.

750
00:49:53,460 --> 00:49:57,570
And that is something that I'm
not trying to beat a dead horse

751
00:49:57,570 --> 00:50:02,100
on, but rather tell you there's
still Well enough evidence there

752
00:50:02,190 --> 00:50:04,680
that I guarantee will not be in
the UAP report because I think

753
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:08,310
they're just dealing with more
recent stuff post, you know,

754
00:50:08,310 --> 00:50:13,200
they'll have the 2004 Nimitz.
And then 2014 2015 or so

755
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:16,710
encounters of gimbal. Go fast.
But then, you know, maybe some

756
00:50:16,710 --> 00:50:22,230
of the more recent sightings and
so on. And truth be told that

757
00:50:22,230 --> 00:50:25,590
the majority of those, maybe our
foreign surveillance systems,

758
00:50:25,590 --> 00:50:29,430
drones, maybe even classified
technology, or Sure, I'll accept

759
00:50:29,430 --> 00:50:32,940
trash, whatever, if that's what
they want to, you know, claim

760
00:50:32,940 --> 00:50:36,120
that a lot of these are. But I
think that history now has shown

761
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:39,720
us enough that there is
something there. And if they

762
00:50:39,720 --> 00:50:43,260
want to go back and start to try
and open those case files a

763
00:50:43,260 --> 00:50:47,070
little bit. Great, that would be
welcome. Although from an

764
00:50:47,070 --> 00:50:50,520
investigative standpoint, it's
probably going to be hard, I can

765
00:50:50,550 --> 00:50:52,860
prove beyond a shadow of a doubt
some of the more interesting

766
00:50:52,860 --> 00:50:56,790
documents have been redacted,
and the originals, quote,

767
00:50:56,790 --> 00:51:01,680
unquote, last, I've talked about
UFO material that was found post

768
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:05,190
project Bluebook in the CIA
files, when I tried to get the

769
00:51:05,190 --> 00:51:08,820
CIA to address that the
documents were gone. So the

770
00:51:08,820 --> 00:51:13,290
redactions stay, and will stay
in perpetuity forever and ever,

771
00:51:13,530 --> 00:51:16,860
until the doom of the planet
Earth. And that's unfortunate.

772
00:51:16,890 --> 00:51:20,820
So maybe the current cases are
all we have. And that's

773
00:51:20,820 --> 00:51:25,050
unfortunate. But anybody who's
seriously looked at UFOs, knows

774
00:51:25,050 --> 00:51:29,490
darn well, that, that it's not
the majority of them, that are

775
00:51:29,490 --> 00:51:34,170
interesting. It's just not, it's
a minority, and it's a fraction

776
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:41,250
of a percent, maybe, arguably.
It's a fraction, though, and a

777
00:51:41,250 --> 00:51:44,370
small one at that. But that's
what we need to find. That's

778
00:51:44,370 --> 00:51:47,040
what we need to look at. That's
what scientists need to look at.

779
00:51:47,370 --> 00:51:52,410
And just because they say many
are explained, I don't care. I

780
00:51:52,410 --> 00:51:54,780
mean, I really don't if the
government wants to claim all of

781
00:51:54,780 --> 00:51:57,900
them will have that
conversation. But if they say

782
00:51:57,900 --> 00:52:00,870
many, we shouldn't be mad at
that we should actually already

783
00:52:00,870 --> 00:52:04,320
know that being involved in this
conversation. So I'm kind of

784
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:08,430
surprised at again, that
discipline disappointment by

785
00:52:08,430 --> 00:52:11,040
some that are just saying,
forget it. Because we shouldn't

786
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:14,340
be there. We should already know
that what Julian Barnes printed

787
00:52:15,420 --> 00:52:18,690
with a couple exceptions here
and there. If it's accurate, it

788
00:52:18,690 --> 00:52:21,930
shouldn't surprise us, because
that's been par for the course.

789
00:52:22,740 --> 00:52:26,850
Alright, so since we are live,
as you guys are watching this on

790
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:30,630
on, well, I've forgot that I'm
broadcasting this everywhere. So

791
00:52:30,630 --> 00:52:36,000
YouTube, Twitter, Facebook
Facebook group. Feel free to

792
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:36,900
post your questions.

793
00:52:37,650 --> 00:52:40,530
The rest of this will be up to
you how long you want me to

794
00:52:40,530 --> 00:52:47,850
stick around? I don't mind at
all, how long, at least within

795
00:52:47,850 --> 00:52:51,270
some kind of reason. It's
Friday. But hey, wait a minute.

796
00:52:51,270 --> 00:52:54,780
Get that out of there. All
right. So feel free to post your

797
00:52:54,780 --> 00:52:59,490
questions. I'm gonna do my best
here and try and answer them. Or

798
00:52:59,490 --> 00:53:04,950
at least see them and answer
them the best that I can. First

799
00:53:04,950 --> 00:53:07,710
one that popped out to me
Richard Wolff, why no nga or NRO

800
00:53:07,710 --> 00:53:11,850
data at all? Richard, I actually
disagree with that. There is Ng

801
00:53:11,850 --> 00:53:15,510
and NRO data, they're both
listed in the classified report.

802
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:18,750
Let me go ahead. And some of
this will be on the fly guy. So

803
00:53:18,750 --> 00:53:23,070
forgive me if I am jumping
around, and maybe have to just

804
00:53:23,070 --> 00:53:28,410
kind of put you on hold here as
I pull up what I am about to

805
00:53:28,410 --> 00:53:37,020
say. But the classified UAP
report. And the agencies that

806
00:53:37,020 --> 00:53:41,550
were involved in that report.
Why didn't it jump down? Hold

807
00:53:41,550 --> 00:53:48,570
on. These were all the agencies
that were involved in the

808
00:53:48,570 --> 00:53:54,330
classified report. So you'll see
the NRO and nga as contributing

809
00:53:54,330 --> 00:54:00,060
to that report. My nga requests
are still open. And you've kind

810
00:54:00,060 --> 00:54:05,100
of reminded me, Richard, to look
into that. And I will, if I can

811
00:54:05,100 --> 00:54:10,740
find a piece of paper. I'll ask
the NGA about the FOIA requests.

812
00:54:10,740 --> 00:54:15,030
But I do have open UAP related
requests with them. With the

813
00:54:15,030 --> 00:54:18,840
NRO. You will you will see
documents online, I also have

814
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:21,180
other cases that are that I know
for a fact are still ongoing,

815
00:54:21,180 --> 00:54:23,610
because that's unfolding, kind
of actually as we speak in the

816
00:54:23,610 --> 00:54:27,060
last couple of weeks. There's
been some updates on them. But

817
00:54:27,180 --> 00:54:29,400
I'll I'll publish everything
when I actually get it. I just

818
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,760
have nothing to say yet. But
things are moving. But with the

819
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,670
NRO, I've already received
documents about their

820
00:54:35,670 --> 00:54:39,000
contribution. And in fact, I
believe it was the NRO release

821
00:54:39,210 --> 00:54:43,290
through FOIA that actually
showed and proved that the UAP

822
00:54:43,290 --> 00:54:50,520
task force so this was prior to
arrow. They had a advisory

823
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:56,310
panel, the NRO had at least one
member on it. So that advisory

824
00:54:56,310 --> 00:54:59,460
panel was kind of revelatory in
the sense that even though it's

825
00:54:59,460 --> 00:55:02,070
kind of a good then you would
think that they would have such

826
00:55:02,070 --> 00:55:06,450
a thing. They they put it in
writing. So I've been going

827
00:55:06,450 --> 00:55:11,100
after since the moment I got
that for a list of that advisory

828
00:55:11,100 --> 00:55:14,550
panel and who was on it. And
sometimes it is a little bit

829
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:19,500
difficult to pry names loose.
What I was hoping for was maybe

830
00:55:19,500 --> 00:55:24,780
positions, expertise, agencies
that they that they were from,

831
00:55:24,780 --> 00:55:31,260
and I believe that was denied.
And I've appealed it. But

832
00:55:31,260 --> 00:55:35,010
regardless, I just don't have
any end result yet. But I've

833
00:55:35,010 --> 00:55:39,330
been going after it. So. So just
to go back to your question.

834
00:55:39,660 --> 00:55:44,100
They're definitely involved in
the conversation. 100% It's

835
00:55:44,100 --> 00:55:50,940
undeniable. So hopefully, there
you go. I see. I'm not sure what

836
00:55:50,940 --> 00:55:53,520
the right answer here is on
questions. If you could put them

837
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:57,510
all caps, that would be great.
There's close to 500 people

838
00:55:57,540 --> 00:56:01,260
watching now. So my chat has
every social media network. So

839
00:56:01,260 --> 00:56:05,820
every comment and chat goes up.
So I apologize if I miss your

840
00:56:05,820 --> 00:56:08,580
question. Feel free to repost it
within a reasonable amount of

841
00:56:08,580 --> 00:56:12,360
time. Just try not to flood the
channel too much. For the sake

842
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:16,080
of other people, Black Dread
Scotland, thank you so much for

843
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:19,530
your support of the channel
watching on YouTube. What role

844
00:56:19,530 --> 00:56:23,490
do you think electronic warfare
plays in UFO sightings? I feel

845
00:56:23,490 --> 00:56:26,580
like it's a good explanation for
some of the recent UFOs caught

846
00:56:26,580 --> 00:56:32,910
on radar. If you're talking
about electronic warfare, like

847
00:56:32,910 --> 00:56:37,740
essentially spoofing equipment,
if I'm understanding what you're

848
00:56:37,770 --> 00:56:40,860
what you're asking correctly, I
think it plays a huge role. does

849
00:56:40,860 --> 00:56:43,980
it explain everything? No, I
doubt it. But I think that we

850
00:56:43,980 --> 00:56:48,810
have to look at that capability
and that ability to essentially

851
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:52,410
make your enemy think they are
seeing something that they

852
00:56:52,410 --> 00:56:56,730
actually aren't. And the end
result from that would be

853
00:56:56,730 --> 00:57:02,190
absolute confusion, and chaos.
And and and them trying to

854
00:57:02,190 --> 00:57:06,360
figure out what is real, what is
not what's really there. Is this

855
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:10,170
something that is is physically
there or just on our

856
00:57:10,170 --> 00:57:13,290
instruments. So yeah, I mean, I
think that if I'm understanding

857
00:57:13,290 --> 00:57:17,310
you correctly, there's there's
absolutely something to it. So,

858
00:57:17,610 --> 00:57:21,600
great question. I think that
these phenomena are explained in

859
00:57:21,630 --> 00:57:26,910
a lot of different ways. I think
too many people want a catch all

860
00:57:27,570 --> 00:57:30,390
explanation. Something that goes
across the board explains

861
00:57:30,390 --> 00:57:31,560
everything. It's all aliens, I

862
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:37,200
told you, haha, it's not going
to happen. There's no clear,

863
00:57:37,410 --> 00:57:42,210
single explanation. And again,
that may be super obvious to

864
00:57:42,210 --> 00:57:45,960
some of you. But it still
surprises me that let's just say

865
00:57:45,990 --> 00:57:49,290
and this goes into your question
about electronic warfare again,

866
00:57:49,290 --> 00:57:52,110
assuming that I understood you,
right. Let's just deal with the

867
00:57:52,110 --> 00:57:59,580
Nimitz. And I was interviewed
for the Showtime special JJ

868
00:57:59,580 --> 00:58:05,070
Abrams. Three, I think was three
part series called UFO. And in

869
00:58:05,070 --> 00:58:07,680
there talked about the
possibility that we were dealing

870
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:10,890
with classified technology
potentially classified

871
00:58:11,490 --> 00:58:17,160
platforms. What if the guys on
the Nimitz or whomever thought

872
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:19,890
that they were seeing something
dropped from super high altitude

873
00:58:19,890 --> 00:58:23,430
all the way down at a immense
rate of speed? What if it just

874
00:58:23,430 --> 00:58:25,800
wasn't there? Because if I
remember correctly, I don't

875
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:29,190
think that there was a visual
sighting on that aspect of the

876
00:58:29,190 --> 00:58:33,000
case. But regardless, right, I
mean, we have to have that as

877
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:36,450
part of the conversation, that
if I believe it was PJ Hughes

878
00:58:36,450 --> 00:58:39,570
saying that the Air Force came
in and took the, the tapes from

879
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:44,610
from, from the, from the
instrumentation there, why would

880
00:58:44,610 --> 00:58:47,700
they? Why would they do that the
Air Force has happened to have

881
00:58:47,700 --> 00:58:51,330
been around. So there's a lot of
unanswered questions there. And

882
00:58:51,330 --> 00:58:54,750
even conflicting information
that I think that we should look

883
00:58:54,750 --> 00:58:58,320
at that keeps that type of
explanation in play. Now, why

884
00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:01,560
did I bring that up? Well,
simple because I brought that

885
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:04,890
up, and then you get attacked
from people saying, well, this

886
00:59:04,890 --> 00:59:07,650
case can't be that and this
case, can't be that it's like,

887
00:59:07,650 --> 00:59:10,620
Why didn't say this case? Was
that or that case? Was that?

888
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:14,340
That people I think, just
operate off the mindset that if

889
00:59:14,340 --> 00:59:17,970
you believe one case has an
explanation, then you

890
00:59:17,970 --> 00:59:22,470
immediately address everything.
If you say one thing is a drone,

891
00:59:22,710 --> 00:59:25,440
then you immediately are
labeled, that you just put a

892
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:29,820
drone as everything and that you
can't have that as part of the

893
00:59:29,820 --> 00:59:33,540
conversation. You literally have
to drill down into every case

894
00:59:33,540 --> 00:59:39,090
every document every claim every
everything and drill down to a

895
00:59:39,090 --> 00:59:45,390
microscopic level to see what
may or may not make sense. But

896
00:59:45,390 --> 00:59:49,590
that doesn't mean that if it
works for case A it's gonna work

897
00:59:49,590 --> 00:59:55,080
for case B it did just just
there's no connection there. And

898
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:59,730
we have to keep that in mind and
I truly feel like sometimes I

899
00:59:59,730 --> 01:00:02,460
make points like that. Or it's
like God, John, like everybody's

900
01:00:02,460 --> 01:00:05,310
going to agree with you. Why do
you even waste the time. But

901
01:00:05,310 --> 01:00:08,160
when you get involved with like
the social media interactions,

902
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:11,280
I'm not talking about just
twitter or just Facebook, but

903
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:14,280
rather, I like to communicate on
a lot of different platforms,

904
01:00:14,460 --> 01:00:18,480
because I learned a lot. But you
see that a lot enough to where I

905
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:22,200
feel you need to waste the time
and pointed out and kind of get

906
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:27,870
reminded, like, we just can't be
in that mindset. So hopefully,

907
01:00:27,870 --> 01:00:30,930
that helped out. Polly
Ratterman. What do you think

908
01:00:30,930 --> 01:00:33,150
about the latest leaked videos
and photos from Virginia,

909
01:00:33,150 --> 01:00:37,230
Brazil? Thank you. So I'm
working on hopefully getting

910
01:00:37,260 --> 01:00:41,670
James Fox on this channel. He's
always a busy guy. I know that

911
01:00:41,670 --> 01:00:45,390
so we've we've exchanged some
messages. So I'd love to explore

912
01:00:45,390 --> 01:00:49,770
what the claims are. I haven't
seen any leaked videos yet. I

913
01:00:49,770 --> 01:00:52,770
saw the leaked photograph that
kind of, you know, made its

914
01:00:52,770 --> 01:00:55,980
rounds a little bit on social
media. It looked hooky from the

915
01:00:55,980 --> 01:00:58,770
get go. And sure enough, like
usually, if you just sit back

916
01:00:58,770 --> 01:01:02,310
for about 20 minutes, the
internet takes over and they

917
01:01:02,310 --> 01:01:06,630
rounded it down to a screenshot
from like our old older

918
01:01:06,630 --> 01:01:11,490
recreation of the Virginia
incident. So if that's the one,

919
01:01:11,490 --> 01:01:14,670
you're referring to the
photograph of the alien that

920
01:01:14,670 --> 01:01:18,570
kind of look tied up and you see
the big bulging eyes was just

921
01:01:18,570 --> 01:01:21,840
simply from a recreation of an
older show, and somebody posted

922
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:24,690
the screenshots. If there's
something else I'm not privy to,

923
01:01:24,690 --> 01:01:28,380
though, Polly feel free to to
let me know, because I'm not I'm

924
01:01:28,380 --> 01:01:32,610
not real. I'm not real sure that
a video came out, but it could

925
01:01:32,610 --> 01:01:35,940
very well have. I mean, there's
so much that happens in this

926
01:01:35,940 --> 01:01:44,040
topic that you can overlook
quite a bit. Archangel Reese,

927
01:01:44,130 --> 01:01:46,800
are you John, are you aware of
the leaked Homeland Security

928
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:48,960
FLIR footage of rubber duck?
Yeah.

929
01:01:50,639 --> 01:01:52,949
Good question. It goes back. I
think what like last year or

930
01:01:52,949 --> 01:01:55,499
something like that, my
connection to it was the guy

931
01:01:55,499 --> 01:01:58,709
that brought it out, I had
reached out, they were having

932
01:01:58,709 --> 01:02:02,129
trouble disseminating the raw
footage, like the uncompressed,

933
01:02:02,609 --> 01:02:06,659
I have been running the black
vault for 26 years, I've got

934
01:02:06,689 --> 01:02:10,529
multiple dedicated servers, and
whenever I can love to offer

935
01:02:10,529 --> 01:02:13,799
help to those that are kind of
struggling, passing around big

936
01:02:13,799 --> 01:02:17,879
files. So I reached out and
still host the rubber duck

937
01:02:17,879 --> 01:02:21,719
footage, I think in the closest
uncompressed format that I

938
01:02:21,719 --> 01:02:25,589
could. Personally I don't think
that it's a anything

939
01:02:25,679 --> 01:02:30,809
extraordinary, sadly. And I
mean, no disrespect, the guy

940
01:02:30,809 --> 01:02:36,539
does not like me at all anymore.
But I think that the source of

941
01:02:36,539 --> 01:02:38,159
that is is not

942
01:02:44,489 --> 01:02:49,709
not credible. So I don't And
again, I always hate saying

943
01:02:49,709 --> 01:02:50,969
stuff like that, because I don't
want to come off as

944
01:02:50,969 --> 01:02:54,389
disrespectful. But there's been
a couple of videos now that are

945
01:02:54,389 --> 01:02:58,199
just kind of questionable where
they came from. They could just

946
01:02:58,199 --> 01:03:02,939
be very explainable. But I just
didn't see anything from that.

947
01:03:02,939 --> 01:03:06,089
And the analysis of that from
from various people out there

948
01:03:06,089 --> 01:03:09,179
that really showed me Hey, you
know, this is this is something

949
01:03:09,209 --> 01:03:12,509
extraordinary. So, regardless,
you could still download the

950
01:03:12,509 --> 01:03:15,869
rubber duck footage, I invite
anybody to do so offer your two

951
01:03:15,869 --> 01:03:20,819
cents, if you're an Anala. You
know, as an analyst, feel free

952
01:03:20,819 --> 01:03:23,069
to post your analysis, if
there's something that, you

953
01:03:23,069 --> 01:03:29,249
know, other people missed, I'm
always all for it. Chat, I'm a

954
01:03:29,249 --> 01:03:31,739
little behind, obviously. So I'm
kind of scrolling through the

955
01:03:31,739 --> 01:03:35,909
all capital letters really helps
me a lot. So I'm reading these

956
01:03:35,909 --> 01:03:39,299
on the fly here. Can any
underwater info underwater info

957
01:03:39,299 --> 01:03:42,959
be discussed in the report? Or
is it all classified? Well, when

958
01:03:42,959 --> 01:03:47,969
the underwater UA, P, which,
under underwater UFOs, I don't

959
01:03:47,969 --> 01:03:50,189
know how you would term it
because it's they're not flying

960
01:03:50,189 --> 01:03:56,159
and they're not aerial but that
phenomena underwater, which

961
01:03:56,159 --> 01:03:59,249
clearly they are seeing, when it
came up in the hearing, they

962
01:03:59,249 --> 01:04:05,009
essentially pushed it to a
classified or close session. So

963
01:04:05,039 --> 01:04:08,189
will anything be in this report,
your guess is as good as mine, I

964
01:04:08,189 --> 01:04:13,529
have no idea. But the precedent
that has been set is the detail

965
01:04:13,559 --> 01:04:17,279
any detail for that matter about
the underwater phenomena,

966
01:04:17,279 --> 01:04:21,269
whatever that might be, is
classified and they could not

967
01:04:21,269 --> 01:04:25,229
say anything in that public
hearing. So we'll see on Monday.

968
01:04:27,089 --> 01:04:29,519
It's one of those things that
would the way I described it the

969
01:04:29,519 --> 01:04:33,959
other day was essentially
anything can happen. And

970
01:04:33,989 --> 01:04:38,069
whatever does happen, I will
likely be surprised but have

971
01:04:38,069 --> 01:04:42,419
expected it but can't believe
that it happened and will be let

972
01:04:42,419 --> 01:04:45,719
down you know like there's all
these range of emotions is

973
01:04:45,719 --> 01:04:50,039
likely all true, but all not. We
just shouldn't be surprised at

974
01:04:50,039 --> 01:04:54,629
anything anymore. So if it's in
there, the underwater stuff is

975
01:04:54,629 --> 01:04:57,449
in there. I wouldn't be
surprised if it's in there

976
01:04:57,449 --> 01:05:00,119
though. Like again, if it's in
there, I would still be

977
01:05:00,119 --> 01:05:03,119
surprised. I know that doesn't
make sense. But it's like,

978
01:05:03,119 --> 01:05:06,299
again, these things when they
happen, it's like surprising,

979
01:05:06,299 --> 01:05:08,939
but not, and then something else
will happen. You're really

980
01:05:08,939 --> 01:05:11,069
surprised to happen. But then
it's like, Oh, I'm not really

981
01:05:11,069 --> 01:05:15,689
surprised. So it adds to that
confusion. And I know it sounds

982
01:05:15,689 --> 01:05:18,539
crazy to say it that way. But
it's just kind of the best way

983
01:05:18,539 --> 01:05:25,889
that that I can term it. Sorry,
going through the questions

984
01:05:25,889 --> 01:05:32,849
here. Dobby Dazzler thank you
for that super sticker. By the

985
01:05:32,849 --> 01:05:36,299
way, for those who are listening
on other platforms have no idea

986
01:05:36,299 --> 01:05:39,659
what I'm referring to. On
YouTube, there's something

987
01:05:39,659 --> 01:05:43,319
called Super Chat. This is a way
to support the channel. I do

988
01:05:43,319 --> 01:05:47,009
point this out every time I do
bring up the super chats. 100%

989
01:05:47,369 --> 01:05:51,179
goes to the channel itself. I
don't take anything for me

990
01:05:51,179 --> 01:05:55,019
personally. It goes right back
into the website. One thing

991
01:05:55,019 --> 01:05:58,679
actually, just so you guys know
what, what stuff like this goes

992
01:05:58,679 --> 01:06:02,819
for. I'm going to be doing
another video on this. But I

993
01:06:02,819 --> 01:06:07,949
just recently posted the sixth
and final release from NASA of

994
01:06:07,949 --> 01:06:12,119
their internal communications
about UAP. And there have been

995
01:06:12,119 --> 01:06:14,939
some fascinating revelations
that have come out of that,

996
01:06:15,269 --> 01:06:18,749
about the UAP taskforce reaching
out to NASA about

997
01:06:20,190 --> 01:06:23,580
NASA Administrator Bill Nelson
getting classified briefings

998
01:06:23,820 --> 01:06:27,300
about how the fact that the
classified stuff would be the

999
01:06:27,300 --> 01:06:31,350
only stuff that would show Bill
Nelson something that the public

1000
01:06:31,350 --> 01:06:34,050
material likely wouldn't I
believe they they termed it

1001
01:06:34,050 --> 01:06:37,890
scratch his itch. So he wanted
to know more about all of this.

1002
01:06:37,890 --> 01:06:41,280
And they essentially said the
public report public material

1003
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:47,400
was not going to be worthwhile.
So it was a fascinating internal

1004
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:51,570
look at what was going on
through through various NASA

1005
01:06:51,570 --> 01:06:56,220
departments and personnel. I had
kind of specifically targeted 10

1006
01:06:56,220 --> 01:07:00,630
or 12 different people, some of
which were more, I don't wanna

1007
01:07:00,630 --> 01:07:03,900
say more important, but they
were, they were more prevalent,

1008
01:07:03,900 --> 01:07:08,610
I guess, as the right word in
the UAP conversation. So it was

1009
01:07:08,670 --> 01:07:14,130
fascinating to see all of that
unfold. Another great fine that

1010
01:07:14,130 --> 01:07:17,910
came out of that was a paper by
Dr. David Spergel, who all of

1011
01:07:17,910 --> 01:07:22,200
you guys have probably heard of
by now. He's the chairman of the

1012
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:27,240
UAP study effort by NASA. Well,
well, before he was announced or

1013
01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:31,440
even became or probably was
asked to do such a thing. He had

1014
01:07:31,470 --> 01:07:34,740
written a paper that from my
view, had never been released

1015
01:07:34,740 --> 01:07:39,270
publicly before about UAP. And
that also came out in the FOIA

1016
01:07:39,270 --> 01:07:41,910
request. So I'm going to be
doing more of a deep dive video

1017
01:07:41,910 --> 01:07:44,460
in that I've already highlighted
some of those documents on this

1018
01:07:44,460 --> 01:07:47,520
channel. But to go back to the
super chats, that's what it goes

1019
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:53,040
towards that bill for that alone
was just shy of about $400. So

1020
01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:57,840
it was just one case, the next
go around. And I'll have more on

1021
01:07:57,840 --> 01:08:03,330
this soon. I expect the bill to
be higher. The case only took me

1022
01:08:03,330 --> 01:08:08,580
through about June or July of
last year. So there has been now

1023
01:08:08,580 --> 01:08:12,570
another year and a half, which
will include all of the material

1024
01:08:12,570 --> 01:08:16,020
on the run up to and then
depending upon when some of this

1025
01:08:16,020 --> 01:08:21,390
is processed. The NASA UAP
effort as it stands right now,

1026
01:08:21,780 --> 01:08:25,710
that next case, I envision will
likely have more material with a

1027
01:08:25,710 --> 01:08:29,730
bigger bill. So the Super Chat,
everything that you guys give

1028
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:34,560
goes right to that. So didn't
mean to get long winded. But I

1029
01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:38,100
also like to show you guys I
really appreciate it. And that's

1030
01:08:38,100 --> 01:08:41,700
why all of you benefit from it.
And I literally do show the

1031
01:08:41,700 --> 01:08:44,790
receipts just so you know, I'm
not making it up. On the on the

1032
01:08:44,790 --> 01:08:48,180
NASA page, you'll see the
receipt for the $400. So you

1033
01:08:48,180 --> 01:08:51,000
know when they say you show the
receipts, I literally do that

1034
01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:54,150
for you guys. So thank you for
all of those who have done the

1035
01:08:54,150 --> 01:08:56,370
super chats. I see some more
coming up here in the chat. So

1036
01:08:56,370 --> 01:09:00,030
I'll I'll definitely get to
those. I just want to get to as

1037
01:09:00,030 --> 01:09:07,050
many questions and comments as I
can. Richard Wolff Richard,

1038
01:09:07,050 --> 01:09:09,390
thank you. Thank you John, for
all the info on your hard work.

1039
01:09:09,390 --> 01:09:11,940
We really do appreciate it.
Thank you Richard. I do

1040
01:09:11,940 --> 01:09:19,590
appreciate your support of the
channel thank you and forgive

1041
01:09:19,590 --> 01:09:23,940
the pauses This is a huge chat
with all all the people talking

1042
01:09:23,940 --> 01:09:27,480
right now. So try and get
through the video or excuse me

1043
01:09:27,480 --> 01:09:32,790
get through to the questions how
Hi John, where's this

1044
01:09:32,790 --> 01:09:35,400
explanation slash video analysis
proven go fast was only

1045
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:38,820
traveling at 30 miles an hour?
That's a That's a great

1046
01:09:38,820 --> 01:09:46,620
question. And hold on. I just
shut my window. There it is. I'm

1047
01:09:46,620 --> 01:09:49,980
gonna pull this back up. For
those who may have joined late,

1048
01:09:50,370 --> 01:09:53,040
one of the videos referred to as
go fast. That's when you're

1049
01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:55,170
asking right because I got a
confused before when I was

1050
01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:58,890
talking about gimbal and go fast
appears to show an object moving

1051
01:09:58,890 --> 01:10:01,350
in immense speed but in an
analysis by the military says

1052
01:10:01,350 --> 01:10:04,320
that it is an illusion created
by the angle of observation

1053
01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:06,960
against water. According to
Pentagon calculations, the

1054
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:10,950
object is moving only about 30
miles per hour. So where is

1055
01:10:10,950 --> 01:10:15,030
that? It's a great question,
Stephen. We don't know. It. It

1056
01:10:15,030 --> 01:10:18,540
insinuates from the New York
Times that either in the

1057
01:10:18,540 --> 01:10:23,490
classified world in the
classified setting, per their

1058
01:10:23,490 --> 01:10:27,270
sub headline, or in the public
report, let's say that their

1059
01:10:27,270 --> 01:10:30,990
sources, the New York Times the
sources have some knowledge

1060
01:10:30,990 --> 01:10:34,410
about what's going to be in the
public report. Maybe they will

1061
01:10:34,410 --> 01:10:37,980
publish it, then I'm not saying
that it's a they did a video

1062
01:10:37,980 --> 01:10:44,340
analysis. And maybe I just
misread, so analysis of the

1063
01:10:44,340 --> 01:10:51,000
video, not necessarily a video
of the analysis. I don't know

1064
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:55,290
what we'll see. But my guess is,
if that's what they're gonna do,

1065
01:10:55,290 --> 01:10:58,560
they will destroy, you know,
what has circulated in the

1066
01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:02,820
public realm now for five years
or so. And they're just going to

1067
01:11:02,820 --> 01:11:05,670
say, you know, this is easily
explainable. So if they do

1068
01:11:05,670 --> 01:11:08,490
explain it, hopefully, they will
have something that is

1069
01:11:08,490 --> 01:11:13,200
verifiable, that there's some
type of math or some type of

1070
01:11:14,820 --> 01:11:19,710
something that got them to that
conclusion. Now, for those who

1071
01:11:19,710 --> 01:11:22,950
might say, well, it could be
classified. So they'll just give

1072
01:11:22,950 --> 01:11:26,280
the the summary why I don't
believe that that will be true.

1073
01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:29,520
And that they'll be able to
release everything is, according

1074
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:34,650
to them the go fast video, in
how it leaked, but then later

1075
01:11:34,650 --> 01:11:41,070
was officially released. It is
the only version that exists. So

1076
01:11:41,070 --> 01:11:43,980
there is nothing else that they
can add, according to them

1077
01:11:43,980 --> 01:11:48,060
unless they change that tune.
But according to them, we have

1078
01:11:48,330 --> 01:11:53,970
what they have. So if they're
doing math calculations, visual

1079
01:11:53,970 --> 01:11:59,430
imagery, tweaking whatever goes
into their analyses, what they

1080
01:11:59,430 --> 01:12:02,610
can do, they can show us, I
don't believe there's any

1081
01:12:02,610 --> 01:12:06,720
classified analysis software
that they can put this in where

1082
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:10,560
they can't show us. So that
likely won't be a video

1083
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:15,030
breakdown, show and tell. But if
they can maybe show some type of

1084
01:12:15,030 --> 01:12:19,230
a report, or analysis, I think
that that would go a long way.

1085
01:12:19,440 --> 01:12:22,500
Doesn't mean all endorse it. But
at least we'll have something

1086
01:12:22,500 --> 01:12:23,550
that we can verify.

1087
01:12:30,990 --> 01:12:34,170
All right. I mean, Michael
Harkness if we keep eating the

1088
01:12:34,170 --> 01:12:37,230
BS, they've been feeding us,
then they will keep feeding it

1089
01:12:37,230 --> 01:12:39,630
to us. Everybody always forgets
this has been happening for

1090
01:12:39,630 --> 01:12:43,860
decades. Hello, before any of us
could even fly. You're right,

1091
01:12:44,310 --> 01:12:49,530
Michael. I don't think everybody
though, buys that hook, line and

1092
01:12:49,530 --> 01:12:53,670
sinker. So I don't think that at
all. But I think it then is

1093
01:12:53,670 --> 01:12:56,790
going to come down to the media,
will people like Julian Barnes

1094
01:12:57,030 --> 01:13:01,800
go beyond their reporting. And I
don't fault him for reporting on

1095
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:06,150
the government stance. I don't
claim to be a journalist. I

1096
01:13:06,150 --> 01:13:09,270
don't tout to being a
journalist. But I like to follow

1097
01:13:09,270 --> 01:13:13,590
those standards when I do
writing. And that being said, I

1098
01:13:13,590 --> 01:13:18,270
like in what he's going through
right now. To what I go through,

1099
01:13:18,270 --> 01:13:22,410
if I publish a statement by
let's say, Susan golf, and I

1100
01:13:22,410 --> 01:13:25,680
can't tell you the vitriol that
comes along with it. Like how

1101
01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:30,180
could you publish? Susan golf?
Well, publishing something isn't

1102
01:13:30,210 --> 01:13:33,480
an endorsement. And when you're
doing a story on something, and

1103
01:13:33,480 --> 01:13:36,930
Susan Goff is the voice for the
Pentagon, how do you not do

1104
01:13:36,930 --> 01:13:40,800
that, then you become just a
biased journalist, that you have

1105
01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:45,270
to go there. So if his job here
was to essentially cover the

1106
01:13:45,270 --> 01:13:49,140
stance of the US government
leading up to this next UAP

1107
01:13:49,140 --> 01:13:53,460
report, I won't fault him for
that. If the if the report comes

1108
01:13:53,460 --> 01:13:57,330
out, and and and, again, lays
the claim that a lot of these

1109
01:13:57,360 --> 01:14:03,240
are foreign surveillance systems
and trash. I'm not going to

1110
01:14:03,240 --> 01:14:06,630
follow Julian Barnes for that,
or the New York Times. And I'll

1111
01:14:06,630 --> 01:14:10,350
stress again, like I pointed out
early on in this broadcast,

1112
01:14:10,950 --> 01:14:13,890
you're taught you're looking at
somebody who literally has torn

1113
01:14:13,890 --> 01:14:17,520
apart some of the New York Times
reporting on this very topic,

1114
01:14:17,850 --> 01:14:21,030
but in the same respect, if he's
accurate here, I'm not blaming

1115
01:14:21,030 --> 01:14:25,530
him or the New York Times. It's
the US government. So based on

1116
01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:28,470
evidence, armed with evidence,
let's go back at the US

1117
01:14:28,470 --> 01:14:32,820
government in the military and
counter what they claim. But if

1118
01:14:32,850 --> 01:14:36,270
if you go after the journalist,
I mean, that's silly. If they're

1119
01:14:36,270 --> 01:14:42,000
just again, reporting on what
they're reporting on there,

1120
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:46,140
they're there. They're taking a
story and showing you what the

1121
01:14:46,140 --> 01:14:51,120
government is essentially gonna
say. So is there a bias and

1122
01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:56,040
Julian Barnes's reporting sure
I'm we can look at some of his

1123
01:14:56,040 --> 01:14:59,580
word choices and stuff like that
fine. I mean, I that I really

1124
01:14:59,580 --> 01:15:02,430
don't care. About because again,
facts stand on their own. So you

1125
01:15:02,430 --> 01:15:05,370
can have a bias journalist. But
as long as they're reporting the

1126
01:15:05,370 --> 01:15:09,900
facts, you can at least zero
those out with this, if this is

1127
01:15:09,900 --> 01:15:12,900
the stance of the US government
stopped with the name calling of

1128
01:15:12,900 --> 01:15:15,480
Julian Barnes and the New York
Times, you know, let's just

1129
01:15:15,480 --> 01:15:18,600
figure out what the government
is going to say on Monday or

1130
01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:22,200
whenever that report comes out,
and then go from there. If the

1131
01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:24,330
report comes out on Monday, and
I want to say this, too, because

1132
01:15:24,330 --> 01:15:27,300
I don't think I have. If the
report comes out on Monday and

1133
01:15:27,300 --> 01:15:31,380
completely contradicts Julian
Barnes here, you better believe

1134
01:15:31,380 --> 01:15:35,250
that I will absolutely challenge
that. And go hey, man, like

1135
01:15:35,250 --> 01:15:37,950
what's, what's up with that?
Probably not those words or

1136
01:15:37,950 --> 01:15:41,940
tone, but I will absolutely
reach out and say, hey, you

1137
01:15:41,940 --> 01:15:44,190
know, you reported all this
stuff based on your your

1138
01:15:44,190 --> 01:15:48,450
anonymous sources. The report
really doesn't reflect the same

1139
01:15:48,450 --> 01:15:51,510
tone, what's up with that and
kind of go from there. That's

1140
01:15:51,510 --> 01:15:55,260
what I did with Ralph Blumenthal
and Leslie Kane, I got their

1141
01:15:55,440 --> 01:15:59,760
feedback on the removal of
Senator Harry Reid along with

1142
01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:03,600
some of the other corrections in
their article. Again, in the

1143
01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:05,970
interest of fairness, what
happened? What why, well, how

1144
01:16:05,970 --> 01:16:09,060
did this happen? Why is it going
on? Same here, I'm not going to

1145
01:16:09,060 --> 01:16:12,390
trash this until there's reason
to trash it. I'm also not going

1146
01:16:12,390 --> 01:16:15,060
to endorse it until there's
reason to endorse it. It just is

1147
01:16:15,060 --> 01:16:19,620
what it is. The New York Times
despite horrible having a

1148
01:16:19,620 --> 01:16:22,650
horrible track record on some
stories. It's still the New York

1149
01:16:22,650 --> 01:16:25,470
Times and I wouldn't doubt the
Julian Barnes has the sources

1150
01:16:25,470 --> 01:16:28,230
that he claims. I hate the fact
that they're anonymous, but it

1151
01:16:28,230 --> 01:16:30,570
is what it is I got to deal with
what's in front of me. So there

1152
01:16:30,570 --> 01:16:37,830
you go. Jack O'Neill John now
that it is likely to be

1153
01:16:37,830 --> 01:16:40,560
confirmed its foreign drones. Do
you think the Elizondo melon

1154
01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:45,480
flavor graves etc crowd crowd
will quiet down. Graves on the

1155
01:16:45,480 --> 01:16:51,570
Joe Rogan podcast sounded
unconvincing. So, first of all,

1156
01:16:51,570 --> 01:16:54,720
I think a lot of those names
that you mentioned kind of have

1157
01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:58,920
quieted down a little bit.
Christopher Mellon, I would

1158
01:16:58,950 --> 01:17:02,640
argue, has seen a little bit
more in the last month or two,

1159
01:17:02,850 --> 01:17:06,000
doing some interviews. But that
was likely all stemming from the

1160
01:17:06,690 --> 01:17:10,590
appearance that he did overseas
at a conference. Louise Elizondo

1161
01:17:10,590 --> 01:17:13,350
has largely disappeared, at
least from his main Twitter

1162
01:17:13,350 --> 01:17:13,830
account.

1163
01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:21,030
You know, he said that that was
planned. So I'm not really sure.

1164
01:17:21,030 --> 01:17:24,450
I mean, he has surfaced a couple
of times to address what we'll

1165
01:17:24,450 --> 01:17:29,160
just simply label as drama on
the social media platform, which

1166
01:17:29,160 --> 01:17:32,880
I'm always surprised to see,
which is kind of silly. Oh, I'm

1167
01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:36,150
seeing some spam in there.
Sorry, for the YouTubers that

1168
01:17:36,150 --> 01:17:41,820
are seeing that. You know, he's
he's largely disappeared from

1169
01:17:41,820 --> 01:17:45,360
the conversation, which is too
bad. I know that it was reported

1170
01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:50,940
he was contracting on classified
programs not confirmed to be

1171
01:17:50,940 --> 01:17:54,750
UAP. I know that that's the
assumption by many. But for us,

1172
01:17:54,750 --> 01:17:59,340
SpaceForce that came out. I've
been pushing pretty regularly to

1173
01:17:59,340 --> 01:18:03,300
try and, you know, find out what
what is he doing? But it's not

1174
01:18:03,300 --> 01:18:07,770
too surprising. They're just not
giving me that or anybody else.

1175
01:18:07,770 --> 01:18:11,160
I know that I'm not the only one
pushing for that, because

1176
01:18:11,160 --> 01:18:14,790
everybody wants to know, is he
doing any UAP work for the Space

1177
01:18:14,790 --> 01:18:18,660
Force? And we just don't We
don't have that answer. So that

1178
01:18:18,660 --> 01:18:22,440
said, maybe he's busy doing
that, and maybe we'll see him

1179
01:18:22,440 --> 01:18:26,820
surface again. I the first part
of your what you're saying there

1180
01:18:26,850 --> 01:18:31,800
that it's likely to be confirmed
as foreign drones? I don't think

1181
01:18:31,800 --> 01:18:34,050
that that's the catch all? I
really don't I think that that's

1182
01:18:34,050 --> 01:18:37,350
part of the conversation. But I
don't think that's a catch all.

1183
01:18:37,380 --> 01:18:40,500
I don't think that excuse me, I
don't think that that what we're

1184
01:18:40,500 --> 01:18:47,070
dealing with is primarily going
to be foreign drones. And again,

1185
01:18:47,070 --> 01:18:49,110
I want to stress like that's
absolutely part of the

1186
01:18:49,110 --> 01:18:53,640
conversation there likely are
going to be cases that are

1187
01:18:54,180 --> 01:18:58,230
foreign drones that can be
solved with that. There will

1188
01:18:58,230 --> 01:19:00,780
probably be cases with
classified technology that will

1189
01:19:00,780 --> 01:19:04,320
likely be lied to about half. We
don't know what this is. But in

1190
01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:08,070
reality, they really do. Yes,
they lie about stuff like that

1191
01:19:08,070 --> 01:19:11,760
area. 51 is a prime example the
time hasn't changed when it

1192
01:19:11,760 --> 01:19:14,580
comes to national security. So
if it's in their best interest

1193
01:19:14,580 --> 01:19:18,240
to lie, I truly believe that
they will lie. So it's not a

1194
01:19:18,240 --> 01:19:22,200
catch all. It's part of the
conversation. And depending upon

1195
01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:27,180
this report, will will that
crowd you know, go quiet down I

1196
01:19:27,180 --> 01:19:30,900
just with what I've already said
I think I think they'll just

1197
01:19:30,900 --> 01:19:34,590
kind of keep pushing forward. I
do think Christopher Mellon has

1198
01:19:34,590 --> 01:19:41,880
a very genuine I think he has a
genuine interest in this and the

1199
01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:47,310
transparency to go along with
it. But recently saw some

1200
01:19:47,700 --> 01:19:50,640
comments by him that made me
scratch my head and question

1201
01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:54,510
that a little bit but I still
want to be a positive outlook on

1202
01:19:54,510 --> 01:19:59,220
Christopher Mellon and his
interest in transparency when it

1203
01:19:59,220 --> 01:20:03,150
comes to this flavor has kind of
largely disappeared, I haven't

1204
01:20:03,150 --> 01:20:07,050
seen him do something in quite
some time. And Ryan Graves,

1205
01:20:07,050 --> 01:20:09,960
obviously just on the Joe Rogan
podcast, which is probably going

1206
01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:14,850
to light up everybody to contact
him for interviews. So I think

1207
01:20:14,850 --> 01:20:18,720
some of these names you likely
may not hear from again, but

1208
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:21,060
we're already seeing that while
others will probably stick

1209
01:20:21,060 --> 01:20:28,770
around in the conversation and,
and continue on. Alright,

1210
01:20:28,770 --> 01:20:34,290
scrolling through here. See some
repeat questions that I think

1211
01:20:34,290 --> 01:20:35,070
I've already answered?

1212
01:20:41,100 --> 01:20:44,070
Bruce Wayne, Batman in the
house, Bruce, it's always good

1213
01:20:44,070 --> 01:20:48,240
to see you. Do you think our
government actually knows what

1214
01:20:48,240 --> 01:20:54,120
this is? Well, it's a million
dollar question, Bruce. And to

1215
01:20:54,120 --> 01:20:57,540
be honest with you, I think that
there are different answers. And

1216
01:20:57,540 --> 01:21:01,770
I believe comfortably, that I
could say that the military and

1217
01:21:01,770 --> 01:21:04,830
government doesn't have them
all. I believe that there still

1218
01:21:04,830 --> 01:21:10,740
is a mystery to some of this. So
with that, does that instantly

1219
01:21:10,740 --> 01:21:14,010
mean it's alien? No. Again, I
just always say that in case

1220
01:21:14,010 --> 01:21:17,100
some people want to misconstrue
what I say not you, Bruce, but

1221
01:21:17,430 --> 01:21:21,420
others that may not be familiar
with with kind of my stance on a

1222
01:21:21,420 --> 01:21:24,930
lot of things. But I think that
there's there's mystery enough

1223
01:21:24,930 --> 01:21:28,470
for the government and military
to put money into this, I think

1224
01:21:28,470 --> 01:21:31,800
that there is a level of of
mystery, I think in the same

1225
01:21:31,830 --> 01:21:35,370
respect, there is a counter
intelligence value. So they do

1226
01:21:35,370 --> 01:21:38,310
know what it is they do know
what the bottom line is, but

1227
01:21:38,310 --> 01:21:40,260
they're going to use it, they're
going to use it to their

1228
01:21:40,260 --> 01:21:43,290
advantage. They're going to use
it for counterintelligence

1229
01:21:43,290 --> 01:21:47,010
purposes against their enemies.
And I think that they will use

1230
01:21:47,010 --> 01:21:49,470
it against the American people.
That doesn't mean it's a

1231
01:21:49,470 --> 01:21:56,280
malicious use, but rather have
it as a tool to shield other

1232
01:21:56,280 --> 01:22:00,030
things, because I think those
classified platforms would be

1233
01:22:00,030 --> 01:22:04,560
involved in a part of this
conversation. So long winded way

1234
01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:09,240
of saying I think it's a little
bit of yes in and know that,

1235
01:22:09,570 --> 01:22:12,690
that they do to a point know
what part of this is, but they

1236
01:22:12,690 --> 01:22:16,350
also have an aspect of it that
they don't. So hopefully that

1237
01:22:16,470 --> 01:22:18,120
answered your question there
Batman.

1238
01:22:23,550 --> 01:22:27,810
Project Monarch, Monarch truth
seeker. Have you ever gotten

1239
01:22:27,810 --> 01:22:33,060
anything on Project Monarch?
Give me one second here. And let

1240
01:22:33,060 --> 01:22:35,370
me before I misspeak.

1241
01:22:41,880 --> 01:22:46,950
So on quick glance at the site,
because I use that site, just

1242
01:22:46,950 --> 01:22:51,420
like everyone else does for
reference. Monarch is ringing a

1243
01:22:51,420 --> 01:22:53,700
bell in my head, but I don't
want to take a guess because I

1244
01:22:53,700 --> 01:22:56,760
don't know off the top of my
head. I looked for a page on it.

1245
01:22:56,760 --> 01:23:00,330
I don't have one specifically.
But let me get back to you Mark.

1246
01:23:00,360 --> 01:23:09,450
And, and see. Writing it down.
So I don't forget. And let me

1247
01:23:09,450 --> 01:23:12,750
see. I again, don't want to take
a guess. I think I know what

1248
01:23:12,750 --> 01:23:16,680
you're talking about. But it
quick glance on my side. I don't

1249
01:23:16,680 --> 01:23:21,540
see that I've posted anything
publicly on it. Wolfie 250 Thank

1250
01:23:21,540 --> 01:23:25,470
you. Would you encourage prior
service members to reach out to

1251
01:23:25,470 --> 01:23:28,470
you about potential FOIA ideas,
ie people who are part of the

1252
01:23:28,470 --> 01:23:32,610
2015 tr Strike Group? Yes,
absolutely. I'm not interested

1253
01:23:32,610 --> 01:23:35,400
in classified information, those
in the past that have reached

1254
01:23:35,400 --> 01:23:38,460
out to me know that. And I
always make that clear, when

1255
01:23:38,460 --> 01:23:43,350
people do reach out. I'm an
advocate for transparency, but

1256
01:23:43,350 --> 01:23:46,980
respect secrecy. So I don't want
anybody spilling that. But

1257
01:23:46,980 --> 01:23:52,980
absolutely, the reason why
people should reach out and even

1258
01:23:52,980 --> 01:23:57,300
if it's not me, just anybody
that can help is that getting

1259
01:23:57,300 --> 01:24:00,900
that verifiable information,
whether it be from a tip, or

1260
01:24:00,900 --> 01:24:04,560
whether it be to support a pub
public story, so if they wanted

1261
01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:07,620
to come out, or they already
came out, if they have certain

1262
01:24:07,620 --> 01:24:12,570
details that potentially can be
utilized for a FOIA request?

1263
01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:19,260
Absolutely, I support that
150,000% I have always tried to

1264
01:24:19,260 --> 01:24:21,330
pay attention. This is why I
communicate on a lot of

1265
01:24:21,330 --> 01:24:26,040
different social media platforms
to kind of pick up on people

1266
01:24:26,040 --> 01:24:32,430
that do have inside knowledge to
appoint I think there's majority

1267
01:24:32,430 --> 01:24:35,970
of people that have quote
unquote, inside knowledge have

1268
01:24:35,970 --> 01:24:40,770
nothing of the sort that that we
call them LARPers la RP, live

1269
01:24:40,770 --> 01:24:45,270
action role players or role
playing games that they kind of

1270
01:24:45,270 --> 01:24:49,320
LARP this that that they go on
there and pretend to know things

1271
01:24:49,320 --> 01:24:51,780
and you'll see that I in my
opinion, most prevalent on

1272
01:24:51,780 --> 01:24:55,230
Twitter, so you have that aspect
to try and weed through all of

1273
01:24:55,230 --> 01:24:59,460
the BS when it comes along with
those types that are involved in

1274
01:24:59,460 --> 01:25:01,710
this conversation. cuz they're
just, you know, they're playing

1275
01:25:01,710 --> 01:25:04,470
a game they want to have people
think that they're someone that

1276
01:25:04,470 --> 01:25:08,520
they're not. I think this has
been proven quite a few times.

1277
01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:12,720
But in the same respect, there
are a select few that actually

1278
01:25:12,720 --> 01:25:15,600
do have knowledge. They're not
here to tell you about aliens,

1279
01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:19,110
and that Roswell was real, and
they're blown over blown open

1280
01:25:19,110 --> 01:25:23,040
some huge, you know, secret, but
rather, they have inside

1281
01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:26,460
knowledge enough to kind of tip
Give, give tips or give

1282
01:25:26,730 --> 01:25:29,460
pointers, and I always try and
pay attention for stuff like

1283
01:25:29,460 --> 01:25:33,420
that. And stuff has periodically
panned out over the years. This

1284
01:25:33,420 --> 01:25:37,050
isn't somebody with, like,
inside knowledge, insider

1285
01:25:37,050 --> 01:25:39,030
knowledge in the way that I
think a lot of people think of

1286
01:25:39,030 --> 01:25:42,780
it, but rather on Reddit. I
think it was about a year ago,

1287
01:25:42,900 --> 01:25:47,580
somebody had posted an FAA UFO
sighting. And there was a

1288
01:25:47,580 --> 01:25:50,160
connection there. Well, if
anything to do with the FAA,

1289
01:25:50,160 --> 01:25:53,850
something's FOIA bowls, and I
went after it. And sure enough,

1290
01:25:53,850 --> 01:25:57,840
got the cockpit recordings, air
traffic control log stuff like

1291
01:25:57,840 --> 01:26:01,200
that verified. Yeah, something
was actually seen, it later

1292
01:26:01,200 --> 01:26:04,770
turned out to be Starlink. But
but the entire point here is

1293
01:26:04,770 --> 01:26:07,530
that when you pay attention, you
can start going after things

1294
01:26:08,250 --> 01:26:11,340
that has now happened a few
other times, where I have cases

1295
01:26:11,340 --> 01:26:14,760
that I don't believe are
Starlink, with the FAA, and

1296
01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:17,640
hopefully those will, we'll come
out with something. So you

1297
01:26:17,640 --> 01:26:20,970
always try and pay attention to
stuff like that, that are posted

1298
01:26:20,970 --> 01:26:25,410
not necessarily directly at you,
but are out there. It's just

1299
01:26:25,410 --> 01:26:29,430
unfortunate that the majority of
what's out there is just bunk

1300
01:26:29,460 --> 01:26:33,540
and people essentially playing a
game and wanting others to think

1301
01:26:33,540 --> 01:26:36,780
hey, you know, I'm at the
Department of Defense, I work in

1302
01:26:36,780 --> 01:26:41,760
intelligence. I'm this I'm that.
And it's literally not anything

1303
01:26:41,880 --> 01:26:45,780
close to that. And it's just,
I'm sorry, most of the people

1304
01:26:46,950 --> 01:26:50,910
and I think I would comfortably
say most all of them. Very few

1305
01:26:50,940 --> 01:26:55,020
very few. There are a couple but
very few would come out and

1306
01:26:55,020 --> 01:26:57,690
start using social media and
start saying I'm why work in

1307
01:26:57,690 --> 01:27:02,220
counterintelligence I, I'm, I'm
in the Pentagon as we speak. I

1308
01:27:02,220 --> 01:27:06,120
don't think that that's how that
works. I think that some are out

1309
01:27:06,120 --> 01:27:14,310
there. And again, I know there
are it's, yeah, there's some,

1310
01:27:14,640 --> 01:27:17,760
but the majority of people
making those claims now it's,

1311
01:27:17,790 --> 01:27:21,360
it's all bunk. So going back to
your question, yeah, please

1312
01:27:21,420 --> 01:27:24,120
reach out. I'm happy to help
when it comes to the

1313
01:27:24,120 --> 01:27:31,620
unclassified stuff. Forgive me
just going through, man, I think

1314
01:27:31,620 --> 01:27:35,850
I'm way behind. So forgive me
guys. I'm doing my best here.

1315
01:27:35,850 --> 01:27:39,390
And Brian, with super sticker
support. Thank you. I truly

1316
01:27:39,390 --> 01:27:40,320
appreciate that.

1317
01:27:44,189 --> 01:27:48,509
Why do you think this is from
div D IV? Why do you think the

1318
01:27:48,509 --> 01:27:51,059
do E or Department of Energy
hasn't been asked to provide

1319
01:27:51,689 --> 01:27:55,739
information. And I'll be honest
with you and say, I believe that

1320
01:27:55,739 --> 01:28:02,729
they have and I believe that
that they are going to be part

1321
01:28:02,729 --> 01:28:06,479
of the conversation to a point I
think they're going to pull

1322
01:28:06,479 --> 01:28:12,719
quite a bit. In their resources
reach out to everybody, the DOE

1323
01:28:12,749 --> 01:28:17,459
in different offices has UAP
related information, some of

1324
01:28:17,459 --> 01:28:20,879
which were were connected to a
nuclear installation, Cooper

1325
01:28:20,879 --> 01:28:23,339
nuclear facility is one that
sticks out off the top of my

1326
01:28:23,339 --> 01:28:27,629
head, that that was a brand new
case never been revealed before.

1327
01:28:27,839 --> 01:28:30,839
Security Guard saw multiple
UFOs, two different nights,

1328
01:28:30,839 --> 01:28:34,079
multiple witnesses, visual
observations, all sorts of stuff

1329
01:28:34,079 --> 01:28:37,679
on into this. So I'm looking at
the report, I pulled it off

1330
01:28:37,679 --> 01:28:41,429
screen for you guys. But even
though the DoD is not

1331
01:28:41,699 --> 01:28:47,549
contributing to the report last
year, I think enough has

1332
01:28:47,549 --> 01:28:52,799
transpired since then, to
probably get them involved in

1333
01:28:52,799 --> 01:28:56,759
the conversation. If after
Monday, if the report comes out,

1334
01:28:56,999 --> 01:29:02,369
and they have a page like this
that lists all of the

1335
01:29:02,759 --> 01:29:09,089
contributors to the report. If
if it has that and DOE is still

1336
01:29:09,089 --> 01:29:15,119
not in it. Then I then I'd love
to revisit your question. If

1337
01:29:15,119 --> 01:29:17,159
it's in there, though. I
wouldn't be surprised because

1338
01:29:17,159 --> 01:29:19,799
again, I think they're really
trying to give the optics that

1339
01:29:19,799 --> 01:29:26,159
they are reaching out to
everybody. But it was yeah, it

1340
01:29:26,159 --> 01:29:30,569
was a little bit surprising that
last year, it was not it was not

1341
01:29:30,569 --> 01:29:34,979
something that they that they
contributed to, meaning the DOE

1342
01:29:36,629 --> 01:29:41,399
Oh, I see there's some repeats
so Okay, so I'm probably wildly

1343
01:29:41,399 --> 01:29:44,579
behind to 12 Alright, so I'm
getting there. 15 minutes or so

1344
01:29:44,579 --> 01:29:50,519
hopefully I'm not skipping too
many here. Kay cage Snyder.

1345
01:29:50,519 --> 01:29:55,019
John, did you get the follow up
on the UFO logo taken down? Kate

1346
01:29:55,019 --> 01:29:57,029
I'm going to be honest with you
off the top of my head that

1347
01:29:57,029 --> 01:30:00,059
doesn't sound familiar, but I
will definitely look for For

1348
01:30:00,059 --> 01:30:02,219
those who don't know what Kate's
talking about, I did a video

1349
01:30:02,219 --> 01:30:06,929
breaking down the UFO that
appeared on the on the seal for

1350
01:30:08,039 --> 01:30:12,539
the NIMH aviation, and then
later disappeared. Kind of a

1351
01:30:12,539 --> 01:30:15,689
cool story, I don't really have
a full answer to advocate, I'll

1352
01:30:15,689 --> 01:30:18,719
look for the follow up, feel
free to email me all the contact

1353
01:30:18,719 --> 01:30:23,609
forms on the blackbaud.com go
directly to me. Let me block

1354
01:30:23,609 --> 01:30:26,159
this spammer if I haven't
already. Sorry, guys, it's how

1355
01:30:26,159 --> 01:30:27,509
you know you're getting
somewhere when you get

1356
01:30:27,539 --> 01:30:31,289
completely obliterated with spam
on there. I do have a couple of

1357
01:30:31,289 --> 01:30:35,069
moderators on YouTube, I'm not
sure if they're here today. I

1358
01:30:35,069 --> 01:30:37,469
don't coordinate with them. So
it's kind of a crapshoot on if

1359
01:30:37,469 --> 01:30:40,259
they can help me out. And I
always always, I'm so thankful

1360
01:30:40,259 --> 01:30:46,199
when they do. B Jones, thank you
for a balanced report and

1361
01:30:46,199 --> 01:30:49,619
presentation, why aren't the
pilots engaging the drones?

1362
01:30:50,609 --> 01:30:52,889
Well, thank you for the kind
words, I'm glad you enjoyed it,

1363
01:30:53,219 --> 01:30:57,149
why aren't they engaging the
drones? To be honest with you, I

1364
01:30:57,149 --> 01:31:00,089
don't know if we can comfortably
say that yet. There's a lot of

1365
01:31:00,089 --> 01:31:04,259
things that go into when a pilot
engages, there are rules of

1366
01:31:04,259 --> 01:31:08,249
engagement, especially when
you're in a training. You know,

1367
01:31:08,459 --> 01:31:13,349
like a training program, if
you're on US soil, you know, you

1368
01:31:13,349 --> 01:31:17,339
don't necessarily start engaging
everything, you got to wait for

1369
01:31:17,339 --> 01:31:19,949
orders. And again, it kind of
all ties back to a rules of

1370
01:31:19,949 --> 01:31:23,609
engagement, that there are
certain rules for them to arm a

1371
01:31:23,609 --> 01:31:27,779
missile to fire back to engage
to chase to, to alter course,

1372
01:31:27,779 --> 01:31:31,289
and so on. But I can't say that
we have or have not, I think

1373
01:31:31,289 --> 01:31:34,169
that there's a lot of cases here
that have not seen the light of

1374
01:31:34,169 --> 01:31:38,459
day, we've brushed over a couple
for the public report last year.

1375
01:31:38,789 --> 01:31:42,359
Obviously, we're aware of a
couple others in the hearing.

1376
01:31:43,079 --> 01:31:47,369
But those were like, you know,
quick food past a cockpit. And

1377
01:31:47,369 --> 01:31:52,019
then the most humorous part of
that UFO UAP hearing was them

1378
01:31:52,019 --> 01:31:58,259
trying to like stop the frame
that the UAP object was, you

1379
01:31:58,259 --> 01:32:02,729
know, captured on on video. But
again, they you know, they

1380
01:32:02,729 --> 01:32:04,949
struggled and they were doing
this for a couple of minutes

1381
01:32:04,949 --> 01:32:07,679
from what I remember. But my
whole point with that is a lot

1382
01:32:07,679 --> 01:32:10,589
of these encounters, they're not
sitting there watching them for

1383
01:32:10,589 --> 01:32:14,039
20 minutes to engage. But
rather, they're just very quick.

1384
01:32:14,069 --> 01:32:18,539
But I'm going to again, stress
that we have not seen

1385
01:32:18,569 --> 01:32:19,259
everything.

1386
01:32:21,540 --> 01:32:24,450
So we can't really say they have
or have not engaged until they

1387
01:32:24,450 --> 01:32:29,550
start opening up those files.
But I would likely say that that

1388
01:32:29,550 --> 01:32:32,940
may not happen. And the reason
is, is when you get into

1389
01:32:33,690 --> 01:32:39,330
engagement, you now are
potentially getting into a

1390
01:32:39,330 --> 01:32:43,980
situation with an act of war. So
if you have a Chinese drone, F

1391
01:32:43,980 --> 01:32:48,030
18 sees it engages it even fires
at it. If that's Chinese

1392
01:32:48,030 --> 01:32:52,080
technology, you're talking about
firing on another country that

1393
01:32:52,080 --> 01:32:57,030
we're not at war at war with. So
there's a lot of factors, again,

1394
01:32:57,030 --> 01:33:02,430
that go into these these types
of things, and very, very hard

1395
01:33:02,430 --> 01:33:06,000
to answer that simply because we
don't have all of the all of the

1396
01:33:06,000 --> 01:33:13,380
files, nor will we likely. Oh, I
love comments like these. I have

1397
01:33:13,380 --> 01:33:16,740
to pull it up, resonate. The
FOIA is not going to tell you

1398
01:33:16,740 --> 01:33:21,990
much blacked out pages are often
misleading. Oh, man, I'm the

1399
01:33:21,990 --> 01:33:24,900
wrong person to say this too.
And here's why. Even though I

1400
01:33:24,900 --> 01:33:27,810
profiled the blacked out
redacted pages, I can tell you

1401
01:33:27,810 --> 01:33:31,080
some of the biggest discoveries
to support that UAP are

1402
01:33:31,080 --> 01:33:34,680
something that we should
investigate come from FOIA. It

1403
01:33:34,680 --> 01:33:38,670
didn't come from the UAP
hearing. It didn't come from the

1404
01:33:38,670 --> 01:33:42,780
public report, but rather
through FOIA and the MDR

1405
01:33:42,780 --> 01:33:46,200
process. When you look at the
classified version of the UAP

1406
01:33:46,200 --> 01:33:49,710
report. There was much more to
show there. Now granted, there

1407
01:33:49,710 --> 01:33:53,550
were redactions. But when you
start looking at the revelations

1408
01:33:53,550 --> 01:33:56,910
that you can sometimes get from
those redactions and the

1409
01:33:56,910 --> 01:34:02,040
information that's not redacted.
That all is thanks to FOIA. All

1410
01:34:02,040 --> 01:34:07,140
of the documents through decades
of documents not allegedly

1411
01:34:07,140 --> 01:34:11,850
existing about UAP, it was FOIA
that showed us they do. It was

1412
01:34:11,850 --> 01:34:15,000
also FOIA that showed that there
is technology here being

1413
01:34:15,000 --> 01:34:19,710
displayed by both
instrumentation and visual

1414
01:34:19,710 --> 01:34:23,820
observation, that defy
explanation at this point. That

1415
01:34:23,820 --> 01:34:27,360
doesn't mean alien, but it does
mean that that we have no

1416
01:34:27,360 --> 01:34:31,140
explanation for it. That's
thanks to FOIA. Those didn't get

1417
01:34:31,140 --> 01:34:35,070
handed out by the CIA, but
rather it was it was FOIA that

1418
01:34:35,070 --> 01:34:39,480
showed us that I can only speak
for myself obviously here but

1419
01:34:39,810 --> 01:34:43,170
when you talk about interest
that doesn't go away with with

1420
01:34:43,170 --> 01:34:45,780
irrefutable evidence, it was
FOIA that brought me that

1421
01:34:45,780 --> 01:34:49,410
interest. It wasn't books by
people. It wasn't somebody

1422
01:34:49,410 --> 01:34:53,130
claiming an experience. It
wasn't Luis Elizondo, no offense

1423
01:34:53,130 --> 01:34:58,380
to his fans out there, but
rather it was the documentation

1424
01:34:58,440 --> 01:35:02,550
and the evidence that came out
through FOIA. And it wasn't

1425
01:35:02,550 --> 01:35:05,850
blacked out across the board,
you look at the 1976 arann

1426
01:35:05,850 --> 01:35:10,170
incident, and the fact that it
wasn't blacked out at all. And

1427
01:35:10,170 --> 01:35:13,650
you look at that case, and you
realize how extraordinary that

1428
01:35:13,650 --> 01:35:17,040
event really was, again, not to
beat the dead horse, not saying

1429
01:35:17,040 --> 01:35:20,850
it's alien, but rather whatever
it was, was something that to

1430
01:35:20,850 --> 01:35:25,860
this day, has no adequate
explanation, that to this day,

1431
01:35:26,010 --> 01:35:31,860
no one can definitively
identify. And it was the NSA

1432
01:35:31,860 --> 01:35:35,160
that produced additional
information that was at one time

1433
01:35:35,160 --> 01:35:38,850
classified, showing that the
United States Air Force captain

1434
01:35:39,270 --> 01:35:43,440
saw that case and said, This is
something pretty rare in in a

1435
01:35:43,470 --> 01:35:46,140
pilot's life, but it's something
that we should look at. It was

1436
01:35:46,140 --> 01:35:50,490
FOIA that brought that out. So
you look at what FOIA really has

1437
01:35:50,490 --> 01:35:54,180
done. And it's not just the
redactions that tell the story.

1438
01:35:54,600 --> 01:35:57,810
It's an extraordinary tool that
is highly underrated,

1439
01:35:58,950 --> 01:36:04,650
to people out there. And I think
that the underrated label comes

1440
01:36:04,650 --> 01:36:08,400
from and I'm not speaking at you
directly, but sometimes comes

1441
01:36:08,400 --> 01:36:12,240
from people that in the same
breath of trashing FOIA, are

1442
01:36:12,240 --> 01:36:16,110
waiting for the government to
hand them the answers, that

1443
01:36:16,110 --> 01:36:20,340
they're saying that the
politicians that somehow are

1444
01:36:20,340 --> 01:36:24,000
always honest, are the ones
pushing for answers. And that

1445
01:36:24,360 --> 01:36:28,860
will get us what we what we are
looking for, and FOIA will not.

1446
01:36:29,370 --> 01:36:32,580
But when you look at how the
politicians operate outside of

1447
01:36:32,580 --> 01:36:37,770
the UAP arena, what's really
fascinating, and I just saw this

1448
01:36:37,770 --> 01:36:41,820
a couple of weeks ago, again,
reinforcing this belief that

1449
01:36:41,820 --> 01:36:46,080
Rand Paul, Senator Rand Paul was
trying to get information. This

1450
01:36:46,080 --> 01:36:49,950
is unrelated to UAP. But trying
to get information on something

1451
01:36:50,220 --> 01:36:54,420
and could not as a sitting US
senator, what do you think he

1452
01:36:54,420 --> 01:36:58,350
turned to when the agency he was
trying to get information was

1453
01:36:58,350 --> 01:37:02,940
stonewalling him? FOIA. So the
sitting senator couldn't get

1454
01:37:02,940 --> 01:37:07,710
what he needed, he turned to
FOIA to get it. That is not

1455
01:37:07,710 --> 01:37:09,990
indicative. The FOIA is not
going to tell you something

1456
01:37:10,320 --> 01:37:13,980
that's indicative that it is a
incredibly powerful tool that

1457
01:37:13,980 --> 01:37:17,970
even a sitting senator with the
power that they have, when they

1458
01:37:17,970 --> 01:37:21,030
cannot extract information
because they are a sitting

1459
01:37:21,030 --> 01:37:26,580
senator, if they can't, FOIA is
what they turn to. So my whole

1460
01:37:26,580 --> 01:37:31,650
point, don't trash it, because
history and evidence shows you

1461
01:37:31,650 --> 01:37:39,000
should. So hopefully, that gave
you a little bit. All right,

1462
01:37:39,060 --> 01:37:40,950
hold on. I'm catching up here.
I'm catching up.

1463
01:37:48,090 --> 01:37:52,170
All right, RJ W el Singa. Are
there factions in US Intel

1464
01:37:52,170 --> 01:37:55,380
organizations fighting over
disclosure slash secrecy? That's

1465
01:37:55,380 --> 01:37:59,100
the rumor. I think that that
always with any topic, you're

1466
01:37:59,100 --> 01:38:02,460
going to have some kind of
difference of opinion on what

1467
01:38:02,460 --> 01:38:07,200
should or should not be
classified or declassified. So

1468
01:38:07,230 --> 01:38:10,230
in that respect, I think that
you you will have that

1469
01:38:10,380 --> 01:38:14,880
infighting and those factions
involved. So no disagreement

1470
01:38:14,880 --> 01:38:16,500
there. But that's just
conjecture. There's nothing

1471
01:38:16,500 --> 01:38:21,690
verifiable that we can see like,
this team is fighting this team

1472
01:38:21,690 --> 01:38:24,630
to try and get UFO information
out there while the other is

1473
01:38:24,630 --> 01:38:30,450
trying to hold it back. No real
evidence of that. Or at least

1474
01:38:30,450 --> 01:38:34,860
not yet. Just rumors so won't be
surprising that you have that

1475
01:38:34,860 --> 01:38:37,860
level of debate but not
necessarily proof that there's

1476
01:38:37,860 --> 01:38:44,460
these warring factions on the
inside. Alright, so good.

1477
01:38:44,460 --> 01:38:48,690
Finally some blocked spammers.
And sorry about that guys.

1478
01:38:53,430 --> 01:38:57,000
Oh, I don't want to put you on
the spot. But Aaron, you have

1479
01:38:57,000 --> 01:39:00,150
nothing to worry about. Thank
you for your help by the way of

1480
01:39:00,150 --> 01:39:03,660
moderating the channel now we
all have work and jobs.

1481
01:39:04,170 --> 01:39:08,370
Hopefully you didn't get
offended by me saying that

1482
01:39:08,370 --> 01:39:11,580
sometimes you guys aren't here.
Please I never tell you when I'm

1483
01:39:11,580 --> 01:39:14,880
doing this. I just trust you
guys and gave you the mod

1484
01:39:14,880 --> 01:39:18,000
privileges whenever you are
here. So you guys are the best

1485
01:39:18,000 --> 01:39:25,770
that to help out so thank you
for that all these comments I

1486
01:39:25,770 --> 01:39:32,040
was getting a kick out of Justin
I assume you're asking about

1487
01:39:32,070 --> 01:39:34,830
what comments from Elon the ones
that are making me scratch my my

1488
01:39:34,830 --> 01:39:38,580
head a little bit. There was one
let me see if I can find it real

1489
01:39:38,580 --> 01:39:44,250
quick. Again, these live shows
sometimes again, I'm kind of

1490
01:39:44,250 --> 01:39:49,110
flipping around trying to find
certain things so let me see if

1491
01:39:49,110 --> 01:39:53,490
I can find none. We're gonna
have to cut it a little bit

1492
01:39:53,490 --> 01:39:54,150
short.

1493
01:39:57,210 --> 01:40:07,710
All no Missy depends on how much
he posts on. I believe it was

1494
01:40:07,710 --> 01:40:12,840
Grant Cameron that posted this.
And I'm not finding a quick

1495
01:40:12,840 --> 01:40:15,780
glance. Tell you what, I will
find it.

1496
01:40:19,619 --> 01:40:28,229
Yeah. Try one more thing. And
for those of you who can hear

1497
01:40:28,229 --> 01:40:37,139
sonar dog back there, she is
still kicking. Here it is. Oh,

1498
01:40:37,139 --> 01:40:41,669
come on. Alright, let me share
this. Sure I'm not sharing

1499
01:40:41,669 --> 01:40:47,789
anything, man. I have to use
what's called knitter.net. For

1500
01:40:47,789 --> 01:40:49,739
those of you who don't know what
this is, I just want to make

1501
01:40:49,739 --> 01:40:56,339
sure no, nothing popped up on
this. I use this because it

1502
01:40:57,179 --> 01:40:59,879
allows me to search a little bit
easier if you're not familiar

1503
01:40:59,879 --> 01:41:05,879
with with knitter dotnet. So
it's kind of like a way to

1504
01:41:05,879 --> 01:41:08,729
search across Twitter, you could
do it on Twitter itself. But

1505
01:41:08,729 --> 01:41:11,969
this is a little bit easier
interface. Okay, so grant

1506
01:41:11,969 --> 01:41:14,639
Cameron, everybody thinks it's
about disclosure. So here is I

1507
01:41:14,639 --> 01:41:19,079
don't think I can get it to zoom
in. But let me see. It's a

1508
01:41:19,079 --> 01:41:24,389
little bit better. So this is
from Mellon's. Real recent

1509
01:41:24,389 --> 01:41:28,709
interview, I think it's called
exopolitics. Forgive me, I

1510
01:41:28,709 --> 01:41:32,879
forget exactly the the name of
the show. But he asks, so all

1511
01:41:32,879 --> 01:41:35,879
the information that will be
collected will be classified.

1512
01:41:35,879 --> 01:41:38,399
What's the benefit for the rest
of the world besides the US,

1513
01:41:38,639 --> 01:41:40,889
Christopher Mellon, it's not
being done for the benefit of

1514
01:41:40,889 --> 01:41:44,009
the world. Follow up, it's being
done for the benefit of the

1515
01:41:44,009 --> 01:41:49,319
United States. He says it's been
done for national security of

1516
01:41:49,319 --> 01:41:52,799
the United States. So for me, it
didn't, I want to pull the full

1517
01:41:52,799 --> 01:41:55,679
interview and see the context.
But this is what I was talking

1518
01:41:55,679 --> 01:42:02,009
about earlier that there were
some kind of veering away from

1519
01:42:02,009 --> 01:42:05,699
that transparency, because,
again, there could be additional

1520
01:42:05,699 --> 01:42:09,989
context here that I'm just kind
of missing. But even grant

1521
01:42:09,989 --> 01:42:12,749
Cameron thinks like, oh, a lot
of this is about disclosure. And

1522
01:42:12,749 --> 01:42:14,909
I think that we're seeing this
from not only Christopher

1523
01:42:14,909 --> 01:42:18,509
Mellon, but a couple of others,
that we assume that that's what

1524
01:42:18,509 --> 01:42:20,909
they've been going for
transparency, leading to a

1525
01:42:20,909 --> 01:42:25,079
disclosure of some kind. But
I've long argued it doesn't seem

1526
01:42:25,079 --> 01:42:28,499
like that it doesn't seem like
that at all, actually. And in

1527
01:42:28,499 --> 01:42:30,779
these types of comments, this
was just it was just weird the

1528
01:42:30,779 --> 01:42:33,629
way that it was worded. So
that's what I was briefly

1529
01:42:33,629 --> 01:42:36,839
alluding to, but at least here's
a little bit more of that. But

1530
01:42:36,839 --> 01:42:40,379
in, in full fairness to
Christopher Mellon, maybe there

1531
01:42:40,379 --> 01:42:44,219
is more context in the broader
scope. So I definitely want to,

1532
01:42:44,939 --> 01:42:48,629
you know, get in and dissect
that a little bit. I just think

1533
01:42:48,629 --> 01:42:51,449
that there's some things
involved in this conversation

1534
01:42:51,449 --> 01:42:57,299
that are unanswered. And I think
that certain people are viewed

1535
01:42:57,299 --> 01:43:05,099
in certain ways, and are given a
label that isn't accurate. But

1536
01:43:05,099 --> 01:43:09,449
the internet kind of takes over
and creates a character out of a

1537
01:43:09,449 --> 01:43:14,159
real person. And the character
isn't accurate. And so I hope

1538
01:43:14,159 --> 01:43:16,799
that makes sense. But I think
that certain people, again, are

1539
01:43:16,799 --> 01:43:20,279
just kind of viewed as doing
certain things or having certain

1540
01:43:20,279 --> 01:43:25,379
views. But when you really like
look into it, and really dissect

1541
01:43:25,559 --> 01:43:27,659
what's going on, and what they
say and what they've done in the

1542
01:43:27,659 --> 01:43:35,039
past. It doesn't really bear
that out. So yeah, I hope that

1543
01:43:35,039 --> 01:43:37,019
makes sense. Like sometimes it's
hard to explain, I just think

1544
01:43:37,019 --> 01:43:41,039
that there's different faces for
people out there. And I think

1545
01:43:41,039 --> 01:43:43,499
that sometimes it's not even
that they're trying to have the

1546
01:43:43,499 --> 01:43:47,969
different face. But rather, the
internet just kind of takes over

1547
01:43:47,969 --> 01:43:52,649
and creates the hero. And I
think that that whole LARP thing

1548
01:43:52,649 --> 01:43:56,159
that I was talking about about
it being a game, when you look

1549
01:43:56,159 --> 01:43:58,229
at that conversation, I'm not
saying this is true for

1550
01:43:58,229 --> 01:44:01,319
everybody. But when you look at
the conversation, it's very true

1551
01:44:01,319 --> 01:44:04,769
that there are characters here
that there are good guys and bad

1552
01:44:04,769 --> 01:44:09,839
guys, that there are the true
heroes in the story. But

1553
01:44:09,839 --> 01:44:12,689
sometimes, maybe those those
labels aren't deserved. And I

1554
01:44:12,689 --> 01:44:16,619
think that that that it's the
creation of those kind of alter

1555
01:44:16,619 --> 01:44:19,859
egos, that doesn't help the
conversation either. And I'm not

1556
01:44:19,859 --> 01:44:22,649
saying that that is by the fault
of either Christopher Mellon or

1557
01:44:22,649 --> 01:44:27,119
Luis Elizondo, whomever that's
been mentioned here, but rather,

1558
01:44:27,149 --> 01:44:30,329
it just happens and people
assume certain parts of the

1559
01:44:30,329 --> 01:44:34,769
puzzle, and then to them, it
becomes true. And then they'll

1560
01:44:34,769 --> 01:44:37,349
assume other certain parts of
the puzzle and then to them, it

1561
01:44:37,349 --> 01:44:41,309
becomes true. And in the end,
you have somebody that is highly

1562
01:44:41,309 --> 01:44:45,239
regarded, and even though they
may ish, and should be highly

1563
01:44:45,239 --> 01:44:49,349
regarded. The reason why the
regarded isn't really accurate.

1564
01:44:49,379 --> 01:44:53,699
So you have kind of that, again,
multiple characters, multiple

1565
01:44:53,699 --> 01:44:59,249
faces for multiple people. And
that's nothing new by the way.

1566
01:45:01,739 --> 01:45:04,379
Do you think there could be a
new propulsion system that

1567
01:45:04,379 --> 01:45:07,139
requires weapons grade uranium
and plutonium? And without

1568
01:45:07,139 --> 01:45:10,139
these, you can't reproduce the
required energy? Wow. pugger 21?

1569
01:45:10,139 --> 01:45:12,749
That's a killer question. You
know, I

1570
01:45:13,410 --> 01:45:16,320
will be honest, I don't have the
background to start talking

1571
01:45:16,320 --> 01:45:19,110
about advanced propulsion
systems. I've received quite a

1572
01:45:19,110 --> 01:45:23,100
few documents through FOIA. Even
Dr. Eric Davis wrote some on

1573
01:45:23,100 --> 01:45:26,400
advanced propulsion systems that
I've got on the black vault,

1574
01:45:26,580 --> 01:45:29,760
that you're more than welcome to
read. But I just would not be

1575
01:45:30,570 --> 01:45:34,410
qualified to start getting into
that. I only laugh because I

1576
01:45:34,410 --> 01:45:36,570
just don't have that background.
So there's no way I can even

1577
01:45:36,570 --> 01:45:37,920
pretend to answer that.

1578
01:45:45,000 --> 01:45:47,610
Pressing, I'm not a LARPer. I've
certainly had real things

1579
01:45:47,610 --> 01:45:51,000
happen. And Preston, I wasn't
likely referring to you in this.

1580
01:45:52,380 --> 01:45:54,930
And that's what's hard. That's
what gets uncomfortable about

1581
01:45:54,930 --> 01:45:57,420
certain aspects of these
conversations. And I'm glad I

1582
01:45:57,420 --> 01:46:02,340
stumbled on your comment. No way
do I want people to walk away

1583
01:46:02,340 --> 01:46:04,650
from from this channel or the
show thinking that I think

1584
01:46:04,650 --> 01:46:10,320
everybody's playing a game? I
don't? Sadly, there are people

1585
01:46:10,350 --> 01:46:14,220
that are some do it for self
gratification that they want to

1586
01:46:14,220 --> 01:46:17,520
sit there and pretend that you
know that they're some kind of,

1587
01:46:17,550 --> 01:46:20,580
you know, secret government
person that knows a lot. You

1588
01:46:20,580 --> 01:46:24,480
don't but I'll tweet about it.
There are others that Yeah, I

1589
01:46:24,480 --> 01:46:30,090
think may claim experiences that
they know they didn't have. And

1590
01:46:30,090 --> 01:46:33,300
then there are ones that
actually have had experiences.

1591
01:46:33,810 --> 01:46:35,760
And that's where the
conversation gets uncomfortable,

1592
01:46:35,760 --> 01:46:39,930
because it's the same thing
about labeling UAP and trying to

1593
01:46:39,930 --> 01:46:43,800
define what it is. There's no
across the board answer. So the

1594
01:46:43,800 --> 01:46:46,770
across the board answer with go
into the LARPer. That doesn't

1595
01:46:46,770 --> 01:46:50,610
describe everybody. The problem,
though, is that it describes

1596
01:46:50,640 --> 01:46:54,930
enough people that make it an
issue, it makes it part of the

1597
01:46:54,930 --> 01:46:59,520
conversation, something that we
have to deal with. And, and so

1598
01:46:59,520 --> 01:47:02,790
again, to your comments, I hope
you didn't think that that's

1599
01:47:02,790 --> 01:47:06,660
what I meant. But on the
contrary, it is stories that

1600
01:47:06,690 --> 01:47:09,210
likely I don't know your
backstory, and I don't know you,

1601
01:47:09,210 --> 01:47:12,480
but it's likely what you've
experienced, that I'm more

1602
01:47:12,480 --> 01:47:16,110
interested in rather that person
who wants to sell you something,

1603
01:47:16,350 --> 01:47:19,800
because somebody is
telepathically sending them

1604
01:47:20,070 --> 01:47:22,920
messages about something, they
can't tell you details of it.

1605
01:47:22,920 --> 01:47:27,210
But if you buy their book for
three easy installments of 3999,

1606
01:47:27,390 --> 01:47:32,340
you too can unlock the secrets,
or pay $6,000 to go camping. And

1607
01:47:32,340 --> 01:47:35,220
I'll show you the secrets of the
universe. So you can communicate

1608
01:47:35,220 --> 01:47:38,250
with aliens. Those are the
people that I think are

1609
01:47:38,250 --> 01:47:42,600
problematic to the conversation,
which hurts people like yourself

1610
01:47:42,630 --> 01:47:45,270
that have had genuine
experiences that are not here

1611
01:47:45,270 --> 01:47:50,070
for fame and fortune. But rather
you want to understand, and

1612
01:47:50,070 --> 01:47:55,650
that's where I get fired up
about it simply because the

1613
01:47:55,950 --> 01:48:00,810
drowning out of the important
voices is happening. And I

1614
01:48:00,810 --> 01:48:05,520
believe that the and that's when
it comes to experiences in the

1615
01:48:05,520 --> 01:48:10,380
same respect. The genuine
interest from a lot of people in

1616
01:48:10,380 --> 01:48:13,920
the public is starting to be
drowned out in a different way.

1617
01:48:14,970 --> 01:48:18,570
People getting discouraged is
exactly in my opinion, if there

1618
01:48:18,570 --> 01:48:22,440
is this massive cover up, which
I believe if they create such a

1619
01:48:22,440 --> 01:48:26,940
muddy pit of mess, it will get a
lot of people to just give up

1620
01:48:26,940 --> 01:48:29,850
and quit and go away and forget
the conversation because they're

1621
01:48:29,850 --> 01:48:35,550
so frustrated that in a way is
drowning out them as well. And

1622
01:48:35,550 --> 01:48:38,400
that's where I get fired up
because we don't need that we

1623
01:48:38,400 --> 01:48:40,980
need those voices involved we
need the people that have the

1624
01:48:40,980 --> 01:48:45,120
genuine interest that want to
know more, we shouldn't get to a

1625
01:48:45,120 --> 01:48:47,820
point where we get so frustrated
we just say forget it and go

1626
01:48:47,820 --> 01:48:51,390
away. And also we need those
that have had the genuine

1627
01:48:51,390 --> 01:48:54,870
experiences that aren't trying
to put a price tag on it that

1628
01:48:54,870 --> 01:48:58,470
aren't trying to you know sell
you something in exchange for

1629
01:48:58,500 --> 01:49:04,380
for cosmic changing information.
But rather they should be a part

1630
01:49:04,380 --> 01:49:08,670
of this and not be hindered in
the process. So hopefully that

1631
01:49:08,670 --> 01:49:10,920
explained a little bit more I'm
glad I saw your comment because

1632
01:49:11,250 --> 01:49:17,040
it gave me a chance to clarify
Alright give me I'm still

1633
01:49:17,040 --> 01:49:18,060
catching up here

1634
01:49:26,939 --> 01:49:31,379
all right, RJ W L singer again
do you feel Do you feel you are

1635
01:49:31,379 --> 01:49:34,019
really getting closer to the
truth over the years hope so.

1636
01:49:35,519 --> 01:49:37,529
I'm not sure if that was
directed to me. But if it was

1637
01:49:37,529 --> 01:49:41,369
I'll take a stab at it anyway.
Yes, I believe I believe

1638
01:49:41,369 --> 01:49:44,249
whatever the truth may be I'm
not here to pretend that I that

1639
01:49:44,249 --> 01:49:49,499
I know it. But every document
every photograph, every video,

1640
01:49:49,499 --> 01:49:53,699
every letter, every experience,
every redaction every phone call

1641
01:49:53,699 --> 01:49:57,809
that I get it all gets us
closer. I don't think there's

1642
01:49:57,839 --> 01:50:03,899
there's The ability for me to
one day ever tell you what the

1643
01:50:03,899 --> 01:50:06,539
truth is, I think a lot of
people have to understand that

1644
01:50:06,539 --> 01:50:09,329
the truth sometimes is, is
something that they're going to

1645
01:50:09,329 --> 01:50:12,509
have to figure out for
themselves. I'm not here to tell

1646
01:50:12,509 --> 01:50:15,869
you what to believe, or what the
truth is, I can just tell you

1647
01:50:15,869 --> 01:50:20,819
what the evidence is. At the
end, it's kind of up to you all,

1648
01:50:21,059 --> 01:50:25,379
but it's to decide for
yourselves. But when it comes to

1649
01:50:25,379 --> 01:50:28,679
getting closer to whatever that
is, absolutely, I mean, I

1650
01:50:28,709 --> 01:50:32,579
honestly think every step you
take, you get closer to it.

1651
01:50:32,909 --> 01:50:36,659
Where we go backwards is when
people give up, where we go

1652
01:50:36,659 --> 01:50:41,039
backwards is where people are
drowned out. And that's that's

1653
01:50:41,039 --> 01:50:45,689
one thing that I always advocate
to stay away from. But we are

1654
01:50:45,689 --> 01:50:52,109
getting there. Hopefully.
Something big is coming. Yes. I

1655
01:50:52,109 --> 01:50:55,889
have a hurtin if I've had a
nickel for every time I heard

1656
01:50:55,889 --> 01:50:59,249
something big is coming. Some
more tweets just today, like oh,

1657
01:50:59,669 --> 01:51:04,799
just wait, guys, big things are
coming. I have no idea. Robert

1658
01:51:04,799 --> 01:51:08,099
George, Ugh, why am I never
notified until the end of John's

1659
01:51:08,099 --> 01:51:11,039
live content. So frustrating?
Robert? Well, I'm frustrated

1660
01:51:11,039 --> 01:51:13,619
too, for you. Just make sure
that the notifications are

1661
01:51:13,619 --> 01:51:16,169
turned on. If you guys are
watching on other social media

1662
01:51:16,169 --> 01:51:19,199
platforms, just know YouTube is
definitely the way to watch

1663
01:51:19,199 --> 01:51:23,879
this, simply because that is
100%, the busiest chat part of

1664
01:51:23,879 --> 01:51:27,029
this, which is I know what a lot
of the draw is for these live

1665
01:51:27,029 --> 01:51:31,439
streams. So just go to the black
vault.com/live, that'll bounce

1666
01:51:31,439 --> 01:51:34,409
you to the YouTube channel and
make sure you turn the

1667
01:51:34,409 --> 01:51:38,069
notifications on that way you
guys can get notified. The

1668
01:51:38,069 --> 01:51:42,299
minute I click the camera on, it
sends, you know, sends a message

1669
01:51:42,299 --> 01:51:49,799
to you guys that I'm that I'm
live. Let me see. Do is

1670
01:51:49,799 --> 01:51:54,569
indicated in the con Congress
annual bill of UA PTF. Yeah, I

1671
01:51:54,929 --> 01:51:58,079
off the top of my head I I can't
really keep all the

1672
01:51:58,079 --> 01:52:03,539
congressional language, you
know, verbatim in my head. But I

1673
01:52:03,539 --> 01:52:07,499
know that as they reform a lot
of their processes, especially

1674
01:52:07,499 --> 01:52:10,739
since the June report of last
year, you know, I'd be surprised

1675
01:52:10,739 --> 01:52:16,769
if DoD wasn't in the
conversation. Mars, first off,

1676
01:52:16,769 --> 01:52:19,349
thank you for the support of the
channel, I am surprised that

1677
01:52:19,349 --> 01:52:21,629
people are not worried about the
thought of one of these hidden

1678
01:52:21,629 --> 01:52:24,179
programs making a breakthrough
and using this newfound

1679
01:52:24,179 --> 01:52:28,499
technology for themselves. The
amount of power if real can

1680
01:52:28,499 --> 01:52:30,449
corrupt the best person? That's
true.

1681
01:52:35,460 --> 01:52:38,850
So when you say so I'm not
entirely sure what you mean by

1682
01:52:38,850 --> 01:52:44,700
this where the classified
program finds a breakthrough and

1683
01:52:44,700 --> 01:52:50,400
they use it for themselves? Are
you talking about a rogue group

1684
01:52:50,400 --> 01:52:52,980
of people using that technology
for themselves? Are you talking

1685
01:52:52,980 --> 01:52:57,060
about America as a whole that
find something and utilizes it

1686
01:52:57,060 --> 01:53:00,810
for themselves? If it's the
latter, I mean, I think that

1687
01:53:00,810 --> 01:53:03,600
that is a part of this
conversation that if they are

1688
01:53:03,630 --> 01:53:07,230
reverse engineering, something,
whatever that may be whomever

1689
01:53:07,230 --> 01:53:11,670
made the technology, but if they
have this mystery, this this

1690
01:53:11,700 --> 01:53:15,450
technology that they capture,
it's unidentified, but then

1691
01:53:15,480 --> 01:53:20,670
later, reverse engineer it and
exploit it. That is something

1692
01:53:20,670 --> 01:53:24,060
that I think they will do. And I
think that it's something that

1693
01:53:24,060 --> 01:53:30,750
they will likely exploit. And
I'll show you what I mean by

1694
01:53:30,750 --> 01:53:33,660
that, to kind of prove the
point. This is a security

1695
01:53:33,660 --> 01:53:37,140
classification guide. It's
something I've talked about this

1696
01:53:37,170 --> 01:53:40,170
on this channel quite a bit. But
when we talk about the

1697
01:53:40,170 --> 01:53:44,280
technology, and what is there,
let me bring it up on the

1698
01:53:44,280 --> 01:53:51,180
screen. This is essentially what
defines the secrecy behind UAP.

1699
01:53:51,180 --> 01:53:53,670
This was a big score. I've said
it before I'll say it again, I

1700
01:53:53,670 --> 01:53:55,770
think this is one of the more
important documents that I've

1701
01:53:55,770 --> 01:53:59,400
gotten Mars, I'm going to go
ahead and take your comments off

1702
01:53:59,400 --> 01:54:05,400
screen just so it can. So I can
view it here. Oh, come on. Here

1703
01:54:05,400 --> 01:54:15,540
we go. This defines the secrecy
behind UAP. And you can see here

1704
01:54:17,250 --> 01:54:20,910
intelligence collection,
exploitation, analysis and

1705
01:54:20,910 --> 01:54:26,580
products, this word exploitation
is up for interpretation. But

1706
01:54:26,580 --> 01:54:31,200
why I wanted to pull this up is
that whatever exploitation means

1707
01:54:31,260 --> 01:54:34,620
in the context of this, it is
being attributed to UAP. So they

1708
01:54:34,620 --> 01:54:39,150
are exploiting it to some level
what that is, I don't know, to

1709
01:54:39,150 --> 01:54:43,470
your question about using the
technology for themselves.

1710
01:54:43,470 --> 01:54:47,040
Again, that's where I'm not 100%
sure what you mean by that, but

1711
01:54:47,490 --> 01:54:51,060
at least I wanted to show you
that when it comes to

1712
01:54:51,060 --> 01:54:56,010
exploitation and UAP they are
doing so and then how they kind

1713
01:54:56,010 --> 01:54:59,970
of break all that down as all
classified. Be one is now

1714
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:03,210
Shanell security. So they don't
want to tell you how they're

1715
01:55:03,210 --> 01:55:07,020
exploiting it. But they are. And
that is something that we have

1716
01:55:07,020 --> 01:55:10,050
to remember that no matter what
the root of this is, they are

1717
01:55:10,050 --> 01:55:13,950
exploiting this technology
somewhere, some somehow and in

1718
01:55:13,950 --> 01:55:17,910
some way, how that is I'm not
sure. When we find out Monday, I

1719
01:55:17,910 --> 01:55:23,160
highly doubt it. Oh, this is
always a fun topic. I won't go

1720
01:55:23,160 --> 01:55:26,430
into it too much here. If
there's one species of aliens,

1721
01:55:26,430 --> 01:55:30,150
there must be many, many. Yep.
Absolutely. It's always fun to,

1722
01:55:31,020 --> 01:55:35,790
to talk about stuff like that.
Alien science must be far, far

1723
01:55:35,790 --> 01:55:38,700
beyond all ours. Yeah, if if
they're coming to our neck of

1724
01:55:38,700 --> 01:55:42,450
the woods, they've got to be a
million plus Headstart, which

1725
01:55:42,480 --> 01:55:45,210
then brings up that question,
would they care about talking to

1726
01:55:45,210 --> 01:55:49,110
us, but we'll save that for
another day. We'll be

1727
01:55:49,110 --> 01:55:51,810
interesting to see how Leslie
Kane react to this. Absolutely.

1728
01:55:53,190 --> 01:55:56,040
Obviously, this video was more
of a hot take and kind of a

1729
01:55:56,040 --> 01:55:58,620
quick put together of what's
going on with the New York

1730
01:55:58,620 --> 01:56:02,250
Times. But yeah, I'd love for
her to comment. I mean, I think

1731
01:56:02,250 --> 01:56:05,070
it's important, although I
again, feel that there were a

1732
01:56:05,070 --> 01:56:08,580
lot of holes in that story. And
it was kind of a mess. If she

1733
01:56:08,580 --> 01:56:11,850
truly feels that they vetted it.
And the editorial board at New

1734
01:56:11,850 --> 01:56:17,700
York Times, essentially endorsed
the publishing of it. I know,

1735
01:56:17,700 --> 01:56:21,090
from a journalistic standpoint,
they are putting the claim on

1736
01:56:21,090 --> 01:56:24,780
the claimant. So it's Dr. Eric
Davis. But I mean, you can't

1737
01:56:24,780 --> 01:56:27,510
just go the New York Times and
say whatever without them going.

1738
01:56:27,540 --> 01:56:30,990
Okay, well, we need to verify
something, regardless of if them

1739
01:56:31,260 --> 01:56:34,890
if they print that they have to
verify it in some way for them

1740
01:56:34,890 --> 01:56:38,280
to feel comfortable to put their
masthead above it. So what's

1741
01:56:38,280 --> 01:56:41,940
going on here? You know, was
there any type of vetting did

1742
01:56:41,940 --> 01:56:46,470
they have free? Free ranges do
whatever they want? I don't

1743
01:56:46,470 --> 01:56:52,590
know. But I think that that the
hopefully that they will

1744
01:56:52,590 --> 01:56:57,150
comment, party boy Patti name
checks out based on your on your

1745
01:56:57,150 --> 01:57:00,360
comment, John's drinking
straight vodka. Just kidding. I

1746
01:57:00,360 --> 01:57:03,870
wish. But no, I don't drink on
the air because I'll say

1747
01:57:03,870 --> 01:57:07,350
something stupid. Or I should
say stupid earlier than what I

1748
01:57:07,350 --> 01:57:10,770
always say. I'm always flooding
up something. But as you can

1749
01:57:10,770 --> 01:57:16,140
probably tell by that, not a
vodka drinker. Oh, I thought

1750
01:57:16,140 --> 01:57:17,340
somebody was gonna come into my
door.

1751
01:57:19,560 --> 01:57:23,040
That is sometimes the joys of
the black vault live streaming

1752
01:57:23,070 --> 01:57:25,920
is that you never know what's
gonna bus oops, bus through that

1753
01:57:25,920 --> 01:57:29,010
door right there. One of the
first times I did a live stream

1754
01:57:29,010 --> 01:57:32,010
my wife came busting through she
thought I was dead. Because she

1755
01:57:32,010 --> 01:57:34,770
was texting. I didn't text back.
I didn't have my phone. Now I

1756
01:57:34,770 --> 01:57:37,440
learned to keep my phone near
me. But I was doing a live

1757
01:57:37,440 --> 01:57:40,530
stream on the first behind the
scenes. I think it was. And long

1758
01:57:40,530 --> 01:57:45,450
story short. She kept texting. I
wasn't texting back. She thought

1759
01:57:45,450 --> 01:57:48,180
something happened. She comes
busting through that door. Are

1760
01:57:48,180 --> 01:57:51,360
you okay? And I was live on the
air and there was quite a few

1761
01:57:51,360 --> 01:57:54,690
people watching. So one of those
things you never know. But

1762
01:57:54,690 --> 01:57:58,650
anyway, no vodka. That's that's
a Scotch bottle right there. But

1763
01:57:58,650 --> 01:58:06,660
I don't drink it on there. Let
me see. We're gonna have to wind

1764
01:58:06,660 --> 01:58:10,230
this up. Pretty quick here. But
I'll take some more. Frank's

1765
01:58:10,230 --> 01:58:13,140
legato. Thank you so much for
that. I think the key question

1766
01:58:13,140 --> 01:58:15,360
on this topic that to my
knowledge hasn't yet been

1767
01:58:15,360 --> 01:58:20,490
addressed? Have UAP been
detected in space? So from?

1768
01:58:20,580 --> 01:58:22,680
Okay, so there's a couple of
ways to address this when it

1769
01:58:22,680 --> 01:58:27,660
comes to an official version of
giving an answer to that. I

1770
01:58:27,660 --> 01:58:31,620
don't think that there's been
any kind of Yes, UAP have been

1771
01:58:31,620 --> 01:58:37,260
detected in space. But there
have been numerous cases of NASA

1772
01:58:37,290 --> 01:58:43,770
film footage and stuff like
that, that have been that have

1773
01:58:43,770 --> 01:58:51,600
been captured. Sorry about that.
This is another joy of life.

1774
01:58:56,130 --> 01:58:59,070
Okay, so I'm gonna have to wrap
this up pretty quick. Sorry, we

1775
01:58:59,070 --> 01:59:04,650
have a sick kid, sadly. So I'm
gonna have to break it. She's

1776
01:59:04,650 --> 01:59:07,470
okay. My daughter, though four
had to come home early from

1777
01:59:07,470 --> 01:59:11,850
school yesterday. So forgive me
for that. Little sidetrack.

1778
01:59:12,750 --> 01:59:16,680
Daddy emergency. So, let me go
back to your question. So

1779
01:59:16,680 --> 01:59:21,390
there's no official version of
that UAP in space. But I can say

1780
01:59:21,390 --> 01:59:23,850
that there have been those
numerous videos and NASA

1781
01:59:23,850 --> 01:59:29,220
encounters that lack any
explanation whatsoever. So that

1782
01:59:29,220 --> 01:59:33,450
is something that arguably to
your question, you can say yes,

1783
01:59:33,480 --> 01:59:36,090
I mean, it's unidentified, there
are objects that are obscene

1784
01:59:36,090 --> 01:59:40,740
flying around, you know, STS 48
is one of them. STS 75 is

1785
01:59:40,740 --> 01:59:43,650
another 48 Were the ones with
everything was going all over

1786
01:59:43,650 --> 01:59:46,800
the place. And arguably some
people argue there was a space

1787
01:59:46,800 --> 01:59:51,600
weapon that was fired. 75 was
the tether incident where these

1788
01:59:51,990 --> 01:59:55,770
allegedly big big objects were
seen by going passing behind

1789
01:59:55,770 --> 01:59:59,760
this long tether that broke. So
all of those types of cases you

1790
01:59:59,760 --> 02:00:02,940
know, they stack up. And of
course, you can dissect them one

1791
02:00:02,940 --> 02:00:10,860
by one, and try and get to it.
But when it comes to an official

1792
02:00:10,860 --> 02:00:14,850
word not yet, will that be in
the next one? Is that why NASA

1793
02:00:14,850 --> 02:00:18,210
is involved? Will they come out
with something? I you know, who

1794
02:00:18,210 --> 02:00:23,130
knows? I'm not really sure. But
but we will definitely see Gary

1795
02:00:23,130 --> 02:00:27,240
for the vodka fund. Great job,
John. Thank you. I appreciate

1796
02:00:27,240 --> 02:00:32,010
that. I really do appreciate it,
Gary. Thank you. And with that,

1797
02:00:32,010 --> 02:00:39,120
I do have to I do have to end
this. Red Panda. Thank you for

1798
02:00:39,120 --> 02:00:40,980
this. Cheers, John. Hopefully
the report is better than the

1799
02:00:40,980 --> 02:00:43,080
New York Times article, any
recommendations on how to

1800
02:00:43,080 --> 02:00:47,970
prevent Condon committee to?
That's a great question. And we

1801
02:00:47,970 --> 02:00:51,450
are going to have to probably
shelve that for when the report

1802
02:00:51,450 --> 02:00:54,270
is out. Let's see the tone of
it. Let's see where we're going

1803
02:00:54,270 --> 02:00:58,200
to go with it, and see if that's
where we're headed. I do

1804
02:00:58,200 --> 02:01:01,230
recommend if you missed it to go
check out the article I wrote in

1805
02:01:01,230 --> 02:01:05,970
2020. And then the video that I
did early in 2021, where I

1806
02:01:05,970 --> 02:01:12,330
talked about that road to the
Condon committee, so I hope not.

1807
02:01:12,360 --> 02:01:15,870
But is there anything we can do?
Probably not. John, is there any

1808
02:01:15,870 --> 02:01:18,090
way for you to reach out to Lou
Elizondo, and make him part of

1809
02:01:18,090 --> 02:01:20,370
your team as you work to make
the government more transparent

1810
02:01:20,370 --> 02:01:24,870
on the UFO topic? Sadly, some
stuff happened behind the scenes

1811
02:01:24,870 --> 02:01:30,450
that that likely would not
happen. I generally don't have a

1812
02:01:30,450 --> 02:01:33,450
team, in fact, ever. You're
looking at the entire black

1813
02:01:33,450 --> 02:01:36,300
vault. I don't have anything
personally against Lou Elizondo,

1814
02:01:36,300 --> 02:01:39,990
in fact, I liked the guy. But
sadly, some stuff was said

1815
02:01:40,230 --> 02:01:42,990
behind the scenes that he
decided to make public that

1816
02:01:42,990 --> 02:01:50,160
we're, you know, not entirely
the the team in the team spirit,

1817
02:01:50,160 --> 02:01:53,820
I guess, you can say. But
anyway, the ball is in his

1818
02:01:53,820 --> 02:01:58,170
court. And, you know, he wants
to chat. I'm always here. But

1819
02:01:58,920 --> 02:02:02,730
some stuff was said that isn't
cool. And done.

1820
02:02:05,070 --> 02:02:08,340
All right. I think that that
caught me up. But guys, I'm so

1821
02:02:08,340 --> 02:02:10,800
sorry that I can't believe how
many messages were on here. So I

1822
02:02:10,800 --> 02:02:14,760
apologize. I know I missed
something. Well, over 500 At the

1823
02:02:14,760 --> 02:02:17,460
peak, we're watching at any
given time during the stream.

1824
02:02:17,460 --> 02:02:21,300
That's awesome. I love seeing
those numbers. Hopefully, I came

1825
02:02:21,300 --> 02:02:23,520
through with you guys for the
information, y'all learned at

1826
02:02:23,520 --> 02:02:27,690
least one or two things. But I
do appreciate it. And that said,

1827
02:02:29,310 --> 02:02:32,340
I will update you guys, when
that report drops. I'm thinking

1828
02:02:32,340 --> 02:02:36,510
about doing if the timing works,
a live stream when that happens.

1829
02:02:36,540 --> 02:02:39,510
And we'll go go from there. Just
kind of see what happens. I'm

1830
02:02:39,510 --> 02:02:43,020
sure there's going to be a lot
that goes down from all sorts of

1831
02:02:43,020 --> 02:02:48,060
corners once that thing drops.
But I guess time will tell. That

1832
02:02:48,060 --> 02:02:50,580
said Have a wonderful weekend,
everybody. Thank you so much for

1833
02:02:50,580 --> 02:02:53,850
joining me on a Friday
afternoon. little over two

1834
02:02:53,850 --> 02:02:56,010
hours, actually. So for those
who have been here through the

1835
02:02:56,010 --> 02:02:59,340
whole the whole two hours, thank
you for that. For those who

1836
02:02:59,340 --> 02:03:01,620
joined thereafter, really do
appreciate your support. Of

1837
02:03:01,620 --> 02:03:05,130
course, all of the super chats,
as I mentioned, go right back

1838
02:03:05,130 --> 02:03:08,280
into the channel. And if you
watch the post version, and it's

1839
02:03:08,280 --> 02:03:12,750
not live, there are comments in
order the I forget what they

1840
02:03:12,750 --> 02:03:15,570
call it, but like a comment
where you can support the

1841
02:03:15,570 --> 02:03:19,320
channel as well. So I try and
find those and answer any more

1842
02:03:19,320 --> 02:03:22,620
questions that I have. Feel free
to put the questions that I that

1843
02:03:22,620 --> 02:03:25,860
I missed in the comments below.
And of course, the biggest,

1844
02:03:25,890 --> 02:03:29,490
biggest help is to just liking
and sharing these videos,

1845
02:03:29,550 --> 02:03:33,450
spreading the word. let other
people know this channel exists.

1846
02:03:33,540 --> 02:03:36,750
That's it. Thank you guys. I
really do appreciate it. And you

1847
02:03:36,750 --> 02:03:38,370
have a wonderful weekend.